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Granted I don't watch all of their games but I have been listening to Man Utd fans moaning about his inability to grab a game by the scruff of the throat for years now. I have also heard the same accusation leveled at him by pundits, though pundits can be wrong. Has he proved himself on the European stage? Is Utd's midfield not the main reason they usually fall short in European competition? Was it not the general consensus that he went on a wretched run of form lasting the bones of two years after their humiliation in Rome in 2009?
Are we basing our view of Carrick on his ability to stifle the greatest set of inside forwards in history (with Giggs or Anderson as a partner) or on starting 3 Champions League finals in 4 seasons? I wouldn't place much store in a view that has that down as failing to prove himself. He's had far more European success than Roy Keane did, while picking up 4 League Winners medals.
Don't get me wrong, there are clearly better players than Carrick, but there are far fewer of them than Utd fans would have you believe. Players with his skill-set are actually pretty rare.
Edit: to put it another way, I bet Xavi and Iniesta make Busquets look a chump in training.
Busquets is a great player,Carrick a very good one .............Milner is useless.
Losing Modric doesn't unbalance us in fact it sorts out one of our main problems from last season.
IF he leaves it will enable Van Der Daart to consistantly play as our number 10 in front of two central midfielders. We also have an excellent support/alternative in the same position in Kranjcar.
Modric will need replacing and personally I would like a player who offers a bit of defensive as well as attacking nous. Someone like Vidal would be a dream.
Sandro Vidal
Van der Vaart
Lennon New Striker Bale
Would love Arturo Vidal here but we are not a very likely destination for him.
Not sure if this has been posted yet...
Luka Modric will fly to South Africa on Wednesday with the Tottenham Hotspur squad for their three-game pre-season tour with the uncertainty over his future at the club set to be prolonged into next month.
Chelsea's second bid for the Croatia international, which was worth £27m, has been dismissed as "pretty poor" by Harry Redknapp, with the club's hierarchy having effectively rejected the offer out of hand simply by reiterating that Modric is not for sale. The player is only one year into a six-season deal worth £45,000 a week but is determined to move to Stamford Bridge during the transfer window.
Yet Redknapp is convinced the player, whose relationship with the chairman Daniel Levy appears to have fractured beyond repair, will remain professional even if his desire to move is frustrated. "I wasn't in the meeting between the chairman and Luka, but my relationship with him hasn't changed," said Redknapp. "No matter what happens I will always think very highly of Luka. He's as good as gold: a great boy and not a troublemaker in any shape or form. He's the last lad in the world that would ever cause a problem. He'll just get on with his job, and let's see what happens. But we really don't want to lose him because he's a key player for us."
Modric trained as normal at Chigwell on Tuesday having learned that Chelsea's second bid, an improvement of around £5m on the opening offer, had been unsuccessful. His suitors will return with a third offer, though, even aside from Spurs' clear reluctance to sell, the logistics of completing any deal would most likely ensure no resolution is possible until next month. Spurs depart for Johannesburg and play Kaizer Chiefs on Saturday and Orlando Pirates on Tuesday, with a third match on 23 July. Chelsea, meanwhile, depart for their own two-week tour of Malaysia, Thailand and Hong Kong on Sunday.
Redknapp has suggested that the situation would not be altered even if Modric hands in a formal transfer request. "I wouldn't think that would have any effect on it, really," he said. "We don't want to sell him. I still think £27m is a pretty poor offer for a player of that ability. What's the point of offering £20m-odd for Luka? I may as well go to Manchester United and offer £15m for Wayne Rooney. It's nowhere near what I would value him at, but he's not for sale. There's nowhere to go with it. That's the end of it. The chairman has made his stance clear: he's not for sale. I don't think anything will tempt him to change his mind."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/12/luka-modric-tottenham-chelsea
Well that seems to be pretty unequivocal. Case closed?
Are we basing our view of Carrick on his ability to stifle the greatest set of inside forwards in history (with Giggs or Anderson as a partner) or on starting 3 Champions League finals in 4 seasons? I wouldn't place much store in a view that has that down as failing to prove himself. He's had far more European success than Roy Keane did, while picking up 4 League Winners medals.
Don't get me wrong, there are clearly better players than Carrick, but there are far fewer of them than Utd fans would have you believe. Players with his skill-set are actually pretty rare.
Edit: to put it another way, I bet Xavi and Iniesta make Busquets look a chump in training.
Would love Arturo Vidal here but we are not a very likely destination for him.
Are people in this thread and on this forum having a f****** laugh!?
I keep seeing quotes like "just f****** sell the rat" "the sooner he's gone the better" and signatures with our team for next season, which all have Luka absent!
What is difficult to grasp from HES STILL A TOTTENHAM PLAYER.
Until the day he's officially gone and holding that scummy blue shirt, he should be treated as he is, one of our own.
I actually swear to god, if anyone boos him and forces him out i'll go f****** potty because it's not too late for him to change his mind and stay. Get behind the boy and show him how much WE want him to be here next season!
Are people in this thread and on this forum having a f****** laugh!?
I keep seeing quotes like "just f****** sell the rat" "the sooner he's gone the better" and signatures with our team for next season, which all have Luka absent!
What is difficult to grasp from HES STILL A TOTTENHAM PLAYER.
Until the day he's officially gone and holding that scummy blue shirt, he should be treated as he is, one of our own.
I actually swear to god, if anyone boos him and forces him out i'll go f****** potty because it's not too late for him to change his mind and stay. Get behind the boy and show him how much WE want him to be here next season!
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Would love Arturo Vidal here but we are not a very likely destination for him.
I didn't think we'd be linked with Vidal so soon!
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