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Monchi Exit From Sevilla Confirmed

danielneeds

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I think there was a report that his meetings with Roma were actually in London for some reason.

I can't see him coming here, to be honest. There will be people with more money to burn after him.

Ahh.. ok.

I don't think he's purely driven by money, and Roma don't have much more of it than we do really ? I bet we pay our manager more than they pay theirs.
 

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Ahh.. ok.

I don't think he's purely driven by money, and Roma don't have much more of it than we do really ? I bet we pay our manager more than they pay theirs.

I don't know if he provides any financial assistance for Roma, but I did some legal work re: President James Pallotta's second home and I can confirm that the man is absolutely loaded.
 

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I don't know if he provides any financial assistance for Roma, but I did some legal work re: President James Pallotta's second home and I can confirm that the man is absolutely loaded.

As is Joe Lewis, but neither club are run like Abramovich runs Chelsea.
 

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Would love to have him heading up our transfers. Could be exactly what we need whilst we try to balance funding the new stadium with transfers. Sadly can't see it happening. Thought he was off to Roma anyway.
 

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He has said he has received offers from england and france but nothing concrete

Everton were close to signing him during last summer

Shit, really hope that doesn't happen. There's a chance his magic just might not work in the PL, but I wouldn't want to take that chance. For me, clubs in the second strata (such as us, Everton, Roma, Sevilla, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Marseille etc) are where his value is, uber clubs don't need a Monchi.
 

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Speaking as someone who knows very little about European football these days, why is he so sought after?
 

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Not so sure he's the type we'd want.

The whole buy low sell high method doesn't really work if we actually want to keep our players and manager.

Plus doesn't Monchi target the South American market like Atletico do for players we couldn't get due to work permit issues?
 

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Not so sure he's the type we'd want.

The whole buy low sell high method doesn't really work if we actually want to keep our players and manager.

Plus doesn't Monchi target the South American market like Atletico do for players we couldn't get due to work permit issues?

He'd definitely have to adapt his approach somewhat and scout in different countries to get his deals done more easily.

Portugal, Spain & Italy all seem to be able to get national passports through for many South Americans, which removes some issues around work permits.

I think what people are keen on is his eye for talent/bargains - this should be adaptable for a more European focused market, i agree though, this could make it a bit of a gamble and less appealing to clubs like ours.

Not sure i agree on the buy low sell high method not working - whilst we need to maintain consistency and show a bit of ambition as we build, we will always look for value in the market and IMO we'll more often than not pick a better value option over a slightly more expensive/risky one.
 

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Not so sure he's the type we'd want.

The whole buy low sell high method doesn't really work if we actually want to keep our players and manager.

Plus doesn't Monchi target the South American market like Atletico do for players we couldn't get due to work permit issues?

Yeah I agree, he's used to implementing quite a high turnover of players, the opportunity for that isn't really there with us.
 

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Not sure i agree on the buy low sell high method not working - whilst we need to maintain consistency and show a bit of ambition as we build, we will always look for value in the market and IMO we'll more often than not pick a better value option over a slightly more expensive/risky one.
We have very much worked using this method. However, it has started to swing more towards keeping first teamers and selling the second string, which is refreshing. However, we know that the majority of transfer funds comes from player sales and as we saw from Carrick, Berbatov, Keane, Modric and Bale etc... we are not against selling our best players IF they are inclined to leave and IF the price/club is right. That's just the sphere we operate in.
 

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Not so sure he's the type we'd want.

The whole buy low sell high method doesn't really work if we actually want to keep our players and manager.

Plus doesn't Monchi target the South American market like Atletico do for players we couldn't get due to work permit issues?

I think the "buy low" part is what's interesting. He's not just about South America. Or about buying and selling. He's overseen the academy and integration of their own players, player contracts, great at loans and free signings and head coach and other (academy etc) coaching appointments etc. You think of some of the non SA players he's bought or brought in and moved on just got the best out of like Keita, Rakatic, Kanoute, Poulsen, Zokora, Negredo, Kondogbia, Reyes, Ramos, Navas, Capel, Moreno, Benaga, Krychowiak, Vidal, Gameiro, Nnzonzi, Nasri, Aspas (they are just more recent ones) and then there is his head coach recruitment. Of course not everything he touches turns to gold, but considering his over arching influence on all things Sevilla as their sporting director - he does have a remarkable track record of making good decisions and sustaining the club despite great players and managers continuyally being moved on.

I'm not saying his modus operandi wouldn't have to be modified for someone like us and the PL, but he's all about value, cohesion and evolution. He's kept Sevilla duking it out at the top end, punching above their weight and above bigger hitters - in the same way that our "sporting/transfer" strategy has over the last 10 years. He is the Sporting Director version of Levy in many ways.
 

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I read somewhere that Roma have offered Monchi complete control of football related matters. I don't think that type of role is available at our club. Poch's influence has grown (reflecting in his title change from Head Coach to Manager) and the general consensus tends to point towards us beefing up our scouting team and letting the committee make decisions on recruitment.

Monchi is clearly hugely talented. Roma seems a good fit with the role they're offering, their status as a top side in Italy with room to grow and also the work permit rules in Italy appear to be more relaxed when recruiting south american players.
 

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I read somewhere that Roma have offered Monchi complete control of football related matters. I don't think that type of role is available at our club. Poch's influence has grown (reflecting in his title change from Head Coach to Manager) and the general consensus tends to point towards us beefing up our scouting team and letting the committee make decisions on recruitment.

Monchi is clearly hugely talented. Roma seems a good fit with the role they're offering, their status as a top side in Italy with room to grow and also the work permit rules in Italy appear to be more relaxed when recruiting south american players.

This. I was told by someone that works at the club that Poch has changed so much internally through the control he has, because he's been given (earnt) that freedom and trust to do so (probably times well with Baldini's departure). This type of appointment, whilst on the outside looks like a possible fit, internally I can see it becoming a bit of a potential clash / power struggle. The most he could be in order to work is a glorified scout, which I don't think Monchi would accept / deserves.
 
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