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[mkkid]

My son moaned all the way up seven sisters high when he had to walk it.
That the real reason is that people are too lazy to walk to seven sister.

 

[robofan]

Not many people had cars back then. Strange as it may seem, some of us walked four miles! :grin:

i used to get there on the old mans shoulders, spent the whole time screaming on way to one match and got a right bashing from my old dad until he realised that the pin from his rosette was stuck in the back of my calf - oh happy days - (can you picture fans today in rosette the size of a dinner plate)

 

[justfookinhitit]

I read an article that Arse had 40,000 on their waiting lists.:evil:

One of the guys here at work is (unfortunately for him) a goon on the waiting list for a ST at the Death Star. I've just had him call up the Goon Membership Office to see where he is on the list, and how big that list is in total, and though they wouldn't give him the precise size of the waiting list he is number 5124 and they have told him that he is almost halfway up the list ie the waiting list is around 10,000.

and Robofan - thanks for the info in this thread earlier re the source of your info. Much appreciated.

 

[SpurSince57]

So they're doing the same as us. There was talk of our waiting list being 20,000+, but one of the contributors to Topspurs claimed that he'd got a look at the audited figure and that it was actually under 10,000.

*Edit*

Found it:

If I’m lagging behind everyone on this next item I apologise, but I was interested to find out – quite by chance – that the club’s waiting list for season tickets is not in fact 20,000 or 30,000, but 9,500. The higher figures had been used by the club to illustrate the strength of ‘the brand’, particularly in response to complaints about ST prices. They were also quoted in discussions about any proposed stadium redevelopment. It turns out the figures were based on a flawed method of counting. Mistakes happen, and it seems that now the total of 9,500 is ‘fully audited’ and can therefore be relied upon. Given the club’s robust commitment to ensuring that any incorrect information is corrected publicly, I’m happy to help spread the word.

http://www.topspurs.com/thfccol-martinc.htm

 

[JD82]

I have never posted on here before but often enjoy reading certain threads on on rumours, so called ITKs etc.

When i saw the post which started this thread i showed it to my mate who know's someone who works at the Lane. He said he hadn't heard anything of the MK Dons share, but would check. He then came back to me to say that there had been discussion regarding a possible ground share with MK. He wasn't saying it was gonna happen, just simply that there has been discussions.

I assume various different scenarios have been discussed, but just thought i would pass it on as it gives the original post more credibility.

 

[paininthenuts]

From Insomnia on COYS (the same one as on here?)



Ignore the transfer stuff because that'll all have been discussed in the transfer rumours forum.

But what about the stadium stuff? 60k? Milton Keynes?

Could we cope with that?

Sorry mate, whilst I don't disbelieve you, I don't believe what has been said. I can not see the sense behind closing WHL for a season as the capacity with any one stand closed would still be greater than the Dons stadium. MK Dons stadium is at present 20,000 and when the upper tier is finished it will be 30,000. The upper tier will be paid for by M&S when they eventually move in. I know all this because I live in MK myself. I also believe that if we are going to ground share for a season there must be nearer and bigger grounds.

Apparently there are many options, but the biggest stumbling block at present is the transport links. Lets wait till we get it from the horses mouth.

 

[mkkid]

http://www.topspurs.com/thfccol-seanmorley.htm


What a great article!

 

[paininthenuts]

http://www.topspurs.com/thfccol-seanmorley.htm


What a great article!

I have read shorter novels.

 

[camaj]

a huge percentage are on the list as members only in both cases and do not want and turn down the opportunity to have ST's

I think you're confusing that with the number of members. The waiting list is specifically for people who want a ST. You do not have to want a ST to be a member, in fact you have to pay in order to claim a spot on the waiting list! It's unlikely anyone on the list doesn't want a ST.

Caveat: This summer things have changed slightly because they're offering an exclusive booking period to those on the list. Naturally most members are members in order to get priority so some will sign up to the list in order to get that priority. Anyone who signed up previously would only do so because they want a ST.

Last season alone we did not fill our stadium to capacity many a time.
the reasons were: cold winter nights, european games (poor opponents) lower league and fa cup ties and poor league opponents,

Many? I can't remember it happening that much. I believe we sold out all our premiership games and most of our UEFA, CC and FA cup games. Lets be honest, games against crap teams never attract maximum interest, mainly because they've been dull affairs in the past.

On the whole though these are exceptions. I'm not sure how that relates to expansion. If we had 60,000 seats we'd still "only" get 30,000 against port vale but we'd be able to meet demand where it exists.

50,000 should be a target for now and IF we can push into the top four and do it regularly then make it with an option to add on another 5-10,000 if need be,

if we were regularly in the top 4 then we'd be looking at 70,000 not 60,000 (the maximum you allow).

What's the point in making it 50,000? As I often say, it's better to have tickets unsold than fans disappointed.

I still feel the televised games come into affect as they did in the italian league where Juventus left there old stadium and moved into a smaller one as they weren't selling the tickets,
with more and more tv money coming into the game

I'm not familiar with that situation. Don't italian clubs negotiate TV deals separately rather than as a league? The difference here is it's almost as expensive to subscribe to sky than to get a season ticket. I think I pay £1440 anually to sky, if I could get a ST I'd cancel. If a larger stadium allowed prices to normalise you'd be looking at a very attractive price for a ST vs Sky sub.

We could certainly pack out a 50,000-seat stadium for virtually every game; can we guarantee 10,000 more?

Question is, do we need to? 60k * 19 = 1,140,000 tickets. Even if we only sold 1,00,000 tickets in a season, that'd be 284,000 more than we currently sell (league games only).

That's not including cup games (where we'd likely sell a lot more than 36,000) nor additional spending like refreshments which is seriously underperforming because of a lack of space. I've only bought something once or twice, mainly because the queues are ridiculously long. If you have to miss part of the game to get a drink, it's not worth it.

It appears the club has decided that we can. It would be an insane gamble

It might be a mistake but it would neither be a gamble nor insanse. Worst case scenario is the club make less profit than they would have done but still way more than it currently does.

 

[SpurSince57]

You realise you've misquoted what I wrote so that it appears that I said a 60,000-seater would be an insane gamble?

 

[Krafty]

A bigger stadium, and a larger number of season tickets will also see our away allocation go up.

I was talking to someone in the ticket office and they said if we go for a 60K stadium we can get double the amount of season ticket holders, and increase our away allocation by 1/3, as away allocations are primarliy based on the total number of STs a club has.

 

[DC_Boy]

A bigger stadium, and a larger number of season tickets will also see our away allocation go up.

I was talking to someone in the ticket office and they said if we go for a 60K stadium we can get double the amount of season ticket holders, and increase our away allocation by 1/3, as away allocations are primarliy based on the total number of STs a club has.

interesting point Krafty -

 

[camaj]

You realise you've misquoted what I wrote so that it appears that I said a 60,000-seater would be an insane gamble?

Who said it would be an insane gamble then?

 

[SpurSince57]

Here's what I actually wrote:

We could certainly pack out a 50,000-seat stadium for virtually every game; can we guarantee 10,000 more? It appears the club has decided that we can. It would be an insane gamble to push that any further, and Levy doesn't take insane gambles. 60,000 seems a sensible suck-it-and-see; if we have expandability for another 10-15,000 built into the design, that's great, because it will mean by definition that we have four separate stands, a proper stadium rather than a bowl.

See the difference?

 

[Simon0901]

Parking at MK Stadium not entirely sure but its next to a huge asda and the ikea store there and the MK bowl is not particularly far i guess there is some park and ride not been to the area for a year or so

 

[Bonjour]

Wicked.

I can combine my weekly shop with watching Spurs, and maybe even purchase some reasonably priced well designed furniture.

 

[camaj]

See the difference?

No :shrug:

 

[SpurSince57]

Well, I'm sure everyone else does.

 

[bill]

I don't see why. The whole point of acquiring the land north of Paxton and building the new stadium there is surely to enable the existing ground to be used while building goes on. This is what I don't understand about Insomnia's interview. A couple of us did some basic Photoshopping with Google Earth images back in January and it looks perfectly possible to park a Death Star-sized stadium there. As I said, the only reason I can see why we should need a ground share is if the new stadium has to partially overlap the old one.

On a separate note, the Park Tavern by Northumberland Park Station has closed, and the whole site is boarded up—possibly the neighbouring builders' yard, too. I wouldn't read too much into this, as it's perfectly possible (in fact probable) that the site has been acquired for housing. It may be part of a major station upgrade, however. I'll try and find out.

i posted last year that the pub was closing (i have family who worked there) http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=15642&page=3
The brewery were selling it for housing (i hear) but hopefully plans may have changed and an upgraded station (with a shuttle to the tube please) would be nice.

 

[bill]

I wouldn't be at all hopeful about the tube, but I think we'll see big improvements to rail services in preparation for the Olympics, particularly on the Cambridge line. The Gospel Oak-Barking line (which is fantastically useful, although a lot of people seem unaware of its existence) is scheduled for a major upgrade over the next 18 months.

shhhhh keep this line a secret. it's forever been my private shortcut from kentish town to the lane (11 mins gospel oak - south tottenham)