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Greenspur

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Here's the interview I was talking about. It's with L'Equipe (not the best translation) from October 2013...




source: http://kickoff.blogs.lequipe.fr/morgan-schneiderlin-pochettino-cest-lart-du-detail/


Brilliant interview.

I was particularly taken with this bit …

"By the way, I’d like to say that Southampton’s medical staff is amazing. I haven’t had a muscular injury for two and a half years and it’s nothing to do with luck. I have a good lifestyle but we do a lot of prevention. In instance we work a lot on glueteal muscles before every training session."

I wish the Spurs medical staff could be this effective.
 

BringBack_leGin

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The little I've seen of him reminds me off Carrick. I'm happy to be rd that I'm totally wrong, but if I'm right then I'd be very happy with him. We're crying out for someone who can release our attackers early!
 

Luka Van der Bale

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The more I think about it the more I want Schneiderlin. Such a key player in Southampton's system last year and would be perfect for allowing Poch to stamp his style on the team and having other players know what is expected of them.
 

Barry Mead

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Actually his comment about not really coping for 90 minutes is pretty telling, maybe it's just as well we have quite a bit of depth in midfield, sounds like a good plan to utilise central mids as subs quite frequently as and when possible to ensure they don't get too over exhausted, not just in the later minutes of a game but over a number of games simply building up.
 

Spurs Lodge Kittens

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Interesting. Always noticed that Lallana only finished the full 90 minutes every other game or so. Often subbed off around the 70th minute mark. Shows that fresh legs in key positions is seen as important by Poch
 

DaSpurs

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can take you through it just concerned its the Schneiderlin thread

Poch plays a system with a pivot at the base of MF, a Defensive Mid who has to be able to play box to box, two wide players and a No.10 behind the CF


....................Pivot.......................
...................DM Box to Box (Schnederlin)............................
Wide player (Ward-Prowse).....................
-----------No 10 (Lallana)----------Wide forward (Rodriguez)
------------Striker (Lambert)-----------------

The Pivots role is to drop back into a Middle Three with the Two CB's when transitioning from defending to attacking. The Pivots role is to nullify the pressing of the opposition when in defence but also initiate the attack. The DM is a high tempo triple lung busting tyro who is critical on transitions - when defending to win the ball back but also start attacks and arrive late in the box as the 'extra man'.

The No. 10 plays off the strikers shoulder and is meant to run on to through balls, move the ball out wide or move wide himself to support the wide player if required and make runs into the box. Poch plays a system which tries to overload the opposition in their defensive third. To do this he relies on the DM and No. 10 to arrive in support of the Striker backed up by the wide forward (Rodriguez). Its all about outnumbering and pressing the defense quickly on transitions of the ball. The Lallana role would be ideal for Paulinho because that is his natural game. I think Lallana is a superior passer to Paulinho however and that is the only concern I have. Poch's No.10 needs to be a slick passer.

Coming back to Scneiderlin through...this guy is probably the critical center piece to Poch's set up. He is the key man. Probably explains why we seem eager to get him.

This is a brief summary, the FB's play a vital role as well.

I've no doubt you understand his system, but Paulinho is simply not this type of player. Not a great dribbler in tight spaces, not an incisive passer, not an incisive dribbler who can attack space, and not very ambidextrous. All of the above, Lallana is. The only similarity between the two I see is poor shooting from distance.

The truly similar player in our side to Lallana is Eriksen.
 

DaSpurs

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Eriksen could be a weak link - he needs to up his tackling...its really poor....in Poch's system everyone presses...no slackers...especially high up in the oppositions defensive third

True, but his defensive inability pales in comparison to Paulinho's offensive inabilities, and especially traits required of a pivot/No 10. I'd much rather have a poor tackler in an advanced position than a poor attack-creator in an advanced position, even in Poch's full press scheme. This is especially the case for us considering how many teams sit back in compact formations against us as compared with Saints.
 

Ledleys Knee

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The little I've seen of him reminds me off Carrick. I'm happy to be rd that I'm totally wrong, but if I'm right then I'd be very happy with him. We're crying out for someone who can release our attackers early!

Yeah - he's very much like Carrick. A bit stronger though.
 

danielneeds

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The little I've seen of him reminds me off Carrick. I'm happy to be rd that I'm totally wrong, but if I'm right then I'd be very happy with him. We're crying out for someone who can release our attackers early!
Maybe in the way he plays, but even from the interview above you can see he is less passive than Carrick. Just seems more intelligent and sparky. Carrick waits for things to happen rather than making them happen IMO.
 

mill

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Judging by that interview with him it should Paulinho/Dembele/both making way for Schneiderlin not sandro or Capoue, he said Poch got him to change his style of play and be the one further forward out of the 2 cm's
 

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He is the most important signing of the summer for me - even above a LB!

Please please please.
 

Bus-Conductor

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I have said all along I don't see an obvious position where Paulinho fits in, unless he was to play in an attacking midfield role behind the striker with two playmaker-types either side of him in the 4-2-3-1


Eriksen, Holtby and Lamella are all better candidates for that particular role surely. Personally, if we are going to play the up and at em Pochettino 4231, I think Dembele is the most vulnerable of all of our CM's including Carroll and Bentaleb. I think Paulinho may struggle too (in the CM2) but he did play that role quite well for Brazil before this world cup (confed cup for example), the problem then is though, he would have to be more disciplined and if you take away his freedom and ergo his goals/assists (8 last year) what do you have left ? As a disciplined double pivoting, quick ball moving CM2 we have better options including the likes of Bentaleb.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Actually his comment about not really coping for 90 minutes is pretty telling, maybe it's just as well we have quite a bit of depth in midfield, sounds like a good plan to utilise central mids as subs quite frequently as and when possible to ensure they don't get too over exhausted, not just in the later minutes of a game but over a number of games simply building up.


This was a very prevalent reservation some of us had with Pochettino. It's 60 minute football. I'm going to love that 60 minutes though.
 

Mr Pink

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Eriksen, Holtby and Lamella are all better candidates for that particular role surely. Personally, if we are going to play the up and at em Pochettino 4231, I think Dembele is the most vulnerable of all of our CM's including Carroll and Bentaleb. I think Paulinho may struggle too (in the CM2) but he did play that role quite well for Brazil before this world cup (confed cup for example), the problem then is though, he would have to be more disciplined and if you take away his freedom and ergo his goals/assists (8 last year) what do you have left ? As a disciplined double pivoting, quick ball moving CM2 we have better options including the likes of Bentaleb.

Are you saying Paulinho would struggle to play the number ten role? If you are I agree.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Are you saying Paulinho would struggle to play the number ten role? If you are I agree.

Yes. He lacks the razor sharp wit and quick witted precision to play it.

For me, the best way to play Paulinho is right side, with license to bomb on in a 433 with a more disciplined CM sitting centrally (Capoue) and someone like Bentaleb or Carroll on the left. (like Newcastle away).
 

Mr Pink

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Yes. He lacks the razor sharp wit and quick witted precision to play it.

For me, the best way to play Paulinho is right side, with license to bomb on in a 433 with a more disciplined CM sitting centrally (Capoue) and someone like Bentaleb or Carroll on the left. (like Newcastle away).

Yeah totally agree.
 

mpickard2087

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Eriksen, Holtby and Lamella are all better candidates for that particular role surely. Personally, if we are going to play the up and at em Pochettino 4231, I think Dembele is the most vulnerable of all of our CM's including Carroll and Bentaleb. I think Paulinho may struggle too (in the CM2) but he did play that role quite well for Brazil before this world cup (confed cup for example), the problem then is though, he would have to be more disciplined and if you take away his freedom and ergo his goals/assists (8 last year) what do you have left ? As a disciplined double pivoting, quick ball moving CM2 we have better options including the likes of Bentaleb.

I'll be honest, I think he would be useless at the role too, but its the only way I see it working... If Poch changed his whole approach and moved the direct player from one of the wingers to the central player and had a couple of wide playmakers.

Unlikely to happen, so therefore I think Paulinho is redundant in a 4-2-3-1. I agree about Dembele too, I'd shift both of them, bring in Schneiderlin and have Bentaleb/Carroll as understudies.
 
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