Morgan Schneiderlin

[Lufti]

No, but it's still a heavy component of his game. And sure such a lineup may enhance our goal threat over any current option at LW, but why in this upcoming season would we believe an ACL-torn player returning in October would supply more than a healthy Konoplyanka or Depay?

I would argue, considering the compactness of the defenses we face, that actually Kono would score more goals even than a healthy J Rod. I really don't think J Rod will thrive in a team as a winger in a team that faces the defensive tactics we do.

Because he has done haha. Rodriguez is premiership proven, and more to the point, Pochettino's system proven. Konoplyanka would be a much bigger risk, given he's only proven himself in Ukraine, and given he'd command huge wages and seemingly has a hard-to-deal-with agent. Depay meanwhile, again, has less goals in his whole club career than Rodriguez does from just last season. Rodriguez' work rate, finishing and positioning, means he'd be a top signing. Plus, given that all the ITK we've had has been about how much Poch wants him, I'd say we'd do well to give our manager the players he wants and not make the same mistake we did with AVB, especially when these ones aren't going to cost an arm and a leg (as far as football goes anyway).

 

[WiganSpur]

Seems to be a load of momentum behind the story that we are about to sign both players.

Where?

 

[Darth Vega]

If Schneiderlin and Rodriguez came in would everyone be happy to stop there in terms of midfield and attack?

Yep, along with Davies and Vorm it'll be a great window if it happens. Centre back would be the only other pressing concern but if Kaboul can stay fit then I've got no problem with Kaboul, Vertonghen, Chiriches and Dawson as 4th choice, possibly Veljkovic if he is good enough (done well in pre season IMO)

 

[etchedchaos]

I'd be astonished if they sold us both players any time soon.

Seems to be no suggestion that a deal has been done in the ITV story...just a vague idea that we've 'stepped up our interest'.

Would be great to see it happen though.

It's not astonishing, the owner is the daughter of the previous owner who passed away and she doesn't give two shits about football or the fans, this feels like asset-stripping to me.

 

[DaSpurs]

Because he has done haha. Rodriguez is premiership proven, and more to the point, Pochettino's system proven. Konoplyanka would be a much bigger risk, given he's only proven himself in Ukraine, and given he'd command huge wages and seemingly has a hard-to-deal-with agent. Depay meanwhile, again, has less goals in his whole club career than Rodriguez does last season. Rodriguez work rate, finishing and positioning, means he'd be a top signing. Plus, given that all the ITK we've had has been about how much Poch wants him, I'd say we'd do well to give our manager the players he wants and not make the same mistake we did with AVB, especially when these ones aren't going to cost an arm and a leg (as far as football goes anyway).

But my friend you're still talking about a fully fit Rodriguez. We cannot possibly be assured a player from such an injury will recover to his previous form, or to even a level that would prove him more efficient than either of the other two players. It's true all players discussed here are a risk, but that's the whole point in my advocacy of Kono: that I believe he'd be the smallest risk on the field irrespective of his contract/agent issues.

 

[DaSpurs]

It's not astonishing, the owner is the daughter of the previous owner who passed away and she doesn't give two shits about football or the fans, this feels like asset-stripping to me.

I wouldn't quite put it that extreme, but I think she'd much rather just shed the players that want out and give Koeman all the money he wants away from her own pocket rather than deal with any begrudging players in a new project.

 

[Kendall]

If Schneiderlin and Rodriguez came in would everyone be happy to stop there in terms of midfield and attack?

Yes.

I'd be happy if that was the end of our business to be honest.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

This hasn't just come out of the blue, there was always something in the pipeline when Schneiderlin followed us on twitter.

 

[Lufti]

But my friend you're still talking about a fully fit Rodriguez. We cannot possibly be assured a player from such an injury will recover to his previous form, or to even a level that would prove him more efficient than either of the other two players. It's true all players discussed here are a risk, but that's the whole point in my advocacy of Kono: that I believe he'd be the smallest risk on the field irrespective of his contract/agent issues.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree Besides, I'd say there's a good chance that Rodriguez could make a good recovery, and let's hope he can even emulate Ramsey and find another level post-injury

 

[danielneeds]

But my friend you're still talking about a fully fit Rodriguez. We cannot possibly be assured a player from such an injury will recover to his previous form, or to even a level that would prove him more efficient than either of the other two players. It's true all players discussed here are a risk, but that's the whole point in my advocacy of Kono: that I believe he'd be the smallest risk on the field irrespective of his contract/agent issues.

Sorry, but I'd rather risk on someone recovering from an ACL these days, than signing someone for big money from the Eastern Block. Russians and Ukranians have been a massively mixed bag adapting to big league European football.

 

[etchedchaos]

I wouldn't quite put it that extreme, but I think she'd much rather just shed the players that want out and give Koeman all the money he wants away from her own pocket rather than deal with any begrudging players in a new project.

Lallana and Lovren i can understand but I don't think the players are being particularly enthusiastic in trying to leave. Seems to me clubs are coming in left, right and centre, and she's accepting any bid that sounds good.

 

[DaSpurs]

Maybe I'm just used to disappointment but I feel like something will go wrong here. It'd be the most Spursy thing imaginable if we fucked up signing a player who might actually PREFER US OVER ARSENAL.

Agreed. The beauty of signing a player with such feelings, but coupled with yet again refusing to sign an adequate left winger addition.

We apparently tried to half-heartedly sign one in January, Poch highlighted it as a concern this summer, and our solution is a player who doesn't return until October after an injury with a poor track record of returning to full form. Proper, proper Spursy.

 

[WiganSpur]

But my friend you're still talking about a fully fit Rodriguez. We cannot possibly be assured a player from such an injury will recover to his previous form, or to even a level that would prove him more efficient than either of the other two players. It's true all players discussed here are a risk, but that's the whole point in my advocacy of Kono: that I believe he'd be the smallest risk on the field irrespective of his contract/agent issues.

Thing is with Konoplyanka most people have hardly seen much of him. How do we know he plays that well in every game in the Ukrainian league? He isn't homegrown and he can't play upfront as well. The medical team will be the judge of whether JRod's injury will affect him negatively enough to advise against a move, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Rodriguez is consistent, hard working, quick and a good finisher. Someone who can stick the ball in the back of the net from the wings would be very nice.

 

[Khilari]

Where?

The Press Association tweeted (PA Dugout) that both Schneiderlin and Rodriguez are close to Spurs moves. I have found the PA to be pretty reliable when it comes to transfer speculation, though not always correct in the final outcome.

 

[thinktank]

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/a...se-on-southampton-duo-rodriguez-schneiderlin/

 

[DaSpurs]

Lallana and Lovren i can understand but I don't think the players are being particularly enthusiastic in trying to leave. Seems to me clubs are coming in left, right and centre, and she's accepting any bid that sounds good.

I agree that she's willing and therefore why it's not being aired out to the public, but not quite for the same reasons as you suggest. If she genuinely didn't give a shit, she'd have bounced. She's a wealthy woman, she doesn't have to stick around just to make a few extra million from a percentage of these sales.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Interestingly the Spurs website listed our formation for the tour games a 4-3-2-1 IIRC. In which case we may start the season with Eriksen or Lamela (also have Chadli, Townsend, Lennon) as LW anyway, with the likes of Paulinho/Holtby/Dembele playing as the link man. Of course Eriksen could do that job too but if we signed J-Rod I think we'd be ok with CE out wide until JR was fit.

Our only truly pressing issue is CB, especially if these two go through.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Most likely just piggy-backing on the original report, but....
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...40728_TottenhamCloseInOnRodriguezSchneiderlin

 

[danielneeds]

Thing is with Konoplyanka most people have hardly seen much of him. How do we know he plays that well in every game in the Ukrainian league? He isn't homegrown and he can't play upfront as well. The medical team will be the judge of whether JRod's injury will affect him negatively enough to advise against a move, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Rodriguez is consistent, hard working, quick and a good finisher. Someone who can stick the ball in the back of the net from the wings would be very nice.

It's also about adding some characters to the squad off the pitch too. Someone like Kono will have to change his whole life around. Will his family settle in London? Poch obviously knows Morgan and Jay, and thinks they can settle in and add stability as people too.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

- Twitter explosion always means something

Goal UK @GoalUK · 2m
Tottenham close in on Rodriguez & Schneiderlin signings http://bit.ly/X4menu #THFC #SaintsFC


http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...40728_TottenhamCloseInOnRodriguezSchneiderlin