Mourinho 'angry' with Alli for creating 'problems for his own team'

[Locotoro]

In the Amazon documentary Jose seemed to appreciate just how talented Deli is, with what he quoted Fergie saying about him. I think and hope he still believes in him and is just trying to improve his attitude. But I must say I’m a bit nervous with the PSG manager being sacked and talk of Poch replacing him that Deli will be on his way in January.

For me, Jose wants Dele at the club. But he doesn't want the wasteful, ponderous Dele of the last few years. He wants to see the fast, predatory and direct Dele of his first few seasons.

If Jose wanted to push him out he'd be getting treatment similar to Rose, instead he is making the bench and getting appearances despite us having alternate options.

 

[Freddie]

If they one of the more resolute defences then it's unlikely they also have one of the more creative attacks, which should make cutting out basic errors leading to attacks that much easier.

If Mourinho was angry at and had blasted Alli then yes he's crossed the line. But he hasn't - he has criticised him for making a significant mistake in a game where he shouldn't have done.

Have you seen the goal? He wasn't responsible for their goal. He didn't give the ball to them in a dangerous area. Their keeper had it and our team wasn't exposed. The whole team defended it badly. This narrative of Alli costing us a goal has been created by Jose. Yes, if he hadn't given them the ball then they probably don't score but there were loads of concessions of possession and this one happened to lead to a goal.

 

[Japhet]

For me, Jose wants Dele at the club. But he doesn't want the wasteful, ponderous Dele of the last few years. He wants to see the fast, predatory and direct Dele of his first few seasons.

If Jose wanted to push him out he'd be getting treatment similar to Rose, instead he is making the bench and getting appearances despite us having alternate options.

Dele's always been wasteful. Difference is that under Poch we'd be attacking the majority of the time but under Mourinho we're not and we can't afford to waste opportunities with show-boating.

 

[Freddie]

Completely disagree.

When Jose joined the club he was supportive of all the players. Over time he has been able to see who are the talented players that are not showing their ability on the pitch and which ones are the ones that don't give 100% for the team or play the way to maximise the teams output.

First was Ndombele. Clearly a highly talented player with the ability to really dictate the play and be the springboard for our attacks. So Jose demanded more from him publicly and privately. Is it a nice approach? No its not. But winning is not about being nice, it's about winning and that is what Jose has been brought in to do. After a season of the Jose way, the result is Ndombele is playing at a much higher level and he's able to maintain that ability for longer on the pitch.

If you compare what he did to what he is doing with Dele, there is no difference. Dele is a very talented player but he is not playing as a part of the team, his style is more individual and this is what Mourinho is trying to drum out of him. Win the ball, move the ball forward, release the ball, get in the box, score the goal - these are all things dele can do really well but he's not doing them and when he does it is at Dele pace, not Spurs pace. The result is the team set up to counter quickly is suffering.

Jose is only asking Dele to perform at a level he is capable of. Dele will either continue to play below his level and be sold or start to absorb the information and approach that has been asked of him and become a big part of this team.

If a player doesn't play the way the manager asks they will never be a successful part of that team regardless of who they are.

I agree with most of what you've said, apart from about playing to the level he's capable of. He's actually asking him to play a different, far more conservative style than he's ever known. I don't get why he needs to publicly lambaste him to do this. Just stick to fucking coaching him every single day. In fact his maverick style could be utilised to Jose's benefit given how inept some of his loyal warriors often seem to look when we need to chase a game.

 

[yiddopaul]

I'm glad Jose isn't happy about it. That's why he's a winner. My preference would be to do and say these things in private.

 

[Locotoro]

I agree with most of what you've said, apart from about playing to the level he's capable of. He's actually asking him to play a different, far more conservative style than he's ever known. I don't get why he needs to publicly lambaste him to do this. Just stick to fucking coaching him every single day. In fact his maverick style could be utilised to Jose's benefit given how inept some of his loyal warriors often seem to look when we need to chase a game.

For me, Jose is saying exactly what he should say. Everyone asks him every game, why isn't Dele playing, why not Winks, why not Bergwijn, why not Bale and the media makes their own stories and we all ask the same question. 90% of the time he will defend his players, but when a player constantly plays the wasteful way Dele has been and squanders the fantastic talent he has (and we don't see training) I think it takes a lot for Jose to finally criticise them openly but if that's what it takes then that's what it takes.

Jose isn't interested in the nice arm around the shoulder. He wants warriors like you've just said. Warriors are hard and tough and react from a kick up the back side. If you only consider Jose's track record. Look at the players he's openly criticised. Pogba? He's under a new manager and he's still being left out of the team and unsettled the team. Luke Shaw, the media claimed Jose bullied him? He's been awful ever since Jose left, before Jose arrived and everything in between. He has a lot of ability and is well below his level. Ndombele? Look at him now, playing at a much higher level, positive reaction. Now it's Dele.

 

[yid-down-under]

It was at a point in the game where stoke were looking stronger and his quick thinking tried to sent som off on a counter which we may have doubled our lead from and put the game to bed. It didn’t work and about 20 passes later they score.

harsh imo as he looked bright throughout, even after Jose bollocking him that you could hear through the mic

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

I'm glad Jose isn't happy about it. That's why he's a winner. My preference would be to do and say these things in private.

If they one of the more resolute defences then it's unlikely they also have one of the more creative attacks, which should make cutting out basic errors leading to attacks that much easier.

If Mourinho was angry at and had blasted Alli then yes he's crossed the line. But he hasn't - he has criticised him for making a significant mistake in a game where he shouldn't have done.

How many players make a mistake in a game?
Every player does.

It happy with method but if it’s Dele out and Sabitzer In that’s good as long as it doesn’t mess our home grown/foreign balance.
Ridiculous that he seems to have been singled out, if the papers are to be believe

 

[Shadydan]

He said it himself in the Amazon documentary that if you aren’t playing well and he isn’t speaking with you then you need to be worried. He did the same to Ndombele last season where he called him out in public and low and behold everyone was crying at his 'treatment' and look at him now, people don't learn. If you want our club to be successful then you're appreciate the fact that we need to install a winning mentality in the first instance, you're not gonna do this by playing happy families.

 

[Rusta81]

I thought the interviewer asked him a direct question “ were u upset with Dele ?” ( Which was an odd question to ask anyway as he did nothing of note ) and then Jose responded “ yes , he lost the ball that led to the goal” or something of those lines .
Have I missed something? I thought he was alright but we were much better when Pamela came on .
Direct irrelevant question fishing for a non story with a blunt honest direct answer .Can’t grumble at that

 

[yiddopaul]

How many players make a mistake in a game?
Every player does.

It happy with method but if it’s Dele out and Sabitzer In that’s good as long as it doesn’t mess our home grown/foreign balance.
Ridiculous that he seems to have been singled out, if the papers are to be believe

I kind of understand your point, but it may be because we all know what greatness he's capable of, so he's harder on him. He was pretty brutal on NDombele Last season, probably for the same reason. Seeing a talent go to waste. If he was an average player with not much potential, it would be expected.

 

[Dr Know]

I think Jose is taking a gamble. I feel he does want Dele at the club and he’s trying different ways to inject some maturity into the guy. I remember on the documentary he was calling Dele lazy and laughing with him. Maybe he feels he needs to turn the heat up a bit. I really hope it doesn’t backfire on him. It worked with N’dombele I just hope it works with Dele

 

[teedee]

Alli wasn't the only one to blame - Dier had wandered too far up field and was out of position on the wrong side of the attacker, Davies was nowhere to be seen and Sanchez was scratching his backside. They were all at fault for this, not just Alli. I am a supporter of Jose and I have criticised Alli in the past for a lackadaisical attitude, but Jose was wrong in blaming Alli and he sure as hell will not get him playing better with unfair criticism.

 

[jay2040]

Mountain out of a molehill!

 

[double0]

Dele's always been wasteful. Difference is that under Poch we'd be attacking the majority of the time but under Mourinho we're not and we can't afford to waste opportunities with show-boating.

You can say that he is wasteful or that he tries to be creative look back to Amsterdam and the flick from Dele's boot that gave us that utopia moment...or look at his assist and goal scoring record. He is 100% worth it.

 

[double0]

Alli wasn't the only one to blame - Dier had wandered too far up field and was out of position on the wrong side of the attacker, Davies was nowhere to be seen and Sanchez was scratching his backside. They were all at fault for this, not just Alli. I am a supporter of Jose and I have criticised Alli in the past for a lackadaisical attitude, but Jose was wrong in blaming Alli and he sure as hell will not get him playing better with unfair criticism.

Correction Sanchez tried to close the space Dier left exposed.

 

[newbie]

what he said was spot on, he did it a few times, son and mora are rapid you only need to put a ball in behind or in to space and the other team will have problems, he gave it a away 2-3 times wastefully.

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

I think Jose is frustrated with two problems.
1. Dele is a technically excellent player who can read the game, but he falls short of his own abilities.
2. Dele loves to show off. It's a weakness, We've seen the training ground videos where he delights in nutmegging his fellow squad members. What's the point...? He did it twice to one of the Stoke players. Did it serve a useful function?

Dele tries too many pointless flicks in the wrong position. It's his showing-off problem. When trying to pick the lock of a robust defence, something like this may be worth worth trying: and Dele will do it better than most. But it's all about decision-making: when to try it and when not. In this regard, Dele used to be better than he is now. It's a mentality thing.

For Stoke's goal, the point has been made that we were out of shape. It's true. Jose said the same. Perhaps that's a problem, perhaps not. There are times when we are inevitably out of shape. His criticism of Dele is that he should have realised we were out of shape before trying something that would be more likely to fail than to succeed. In other words, Dele, you're a player who can and does read the game very well but your tendency to show off got the better of you. It's a compliment: you can do better. But something gets the better of you.

I have no doubt that Jose has said this in private and, for those who believe this should remain private, it doesn't work in Dele's case. Hence the public criticism. It's a high-wire act but, if the only way of dealing with a player is in this way, then let Jose decide. Its worked with Aurier (save the moment of madness the other day) and it's worked so far with Ndombele, though the latter is a work in progress.

It's all about attitude. If Pochettino does go to PSG, then Dele may well be loaned or even sold to the Paris club. Such a falling out as we have seen between Jose and Dele serves a certain market function. In addition, a change of place, club and manager could well get the old Dele back. It's up to him.