Mourinho set to be given time but ‘pressure growing’ after Chelsea loss

[Serpico]

The truth is, the teams performances are getting worse, last night they looked like they just didnt care any more, and that's unbearable to watch. I turned off at half time.

sorry for me you must
watch all 90 mins . You can’t enjoy the good times without enduring the shit otherwise your no better than an Arsenal supporter

 

[Trix]

sorry for me you must
watch all 90 mins . You can’t enjoy the good times without enduring the shit otherwise your no better than an Arsenal supporter

The only difference between our fan base and arsenals is AFTV Ggving them a platform. Don't kid yourself there are any other differences.

 

[Serpico]

The only difference between our fan base and arsenals is AFTV Ggving them a platform. Don't kid yourself there are any other differences.

I am aware just joking. But serious about keep watching . You can’t have it both ways. I hope you agree .

 

[marion52]

Not by a long shot... I'm curious though, when we were in free fall under Poch, sitting at 14th... were you calling for his sacking back then? If no, then it's a little hypocritical to want Jose out at this stage, but if yes - then you've defeated your own argument by suggesting a replacement manager (if Jose's as bad as you say he is). Finally - If it's not so cut and dry as I presented, then do we just keep shuffling managers until we look like 1970 Brazil instantly?

I didn’t want a Poch sacked, we had played some good stuff while he was in charge and the opportunity was missed to improve the team at the right time and push on.
Since he took over we have played less attractive football and, to me, I can’t see any style of play developing.
I admit I am biased cause I’ve always loathed the man but if he could get us playing attractive football and not ‘let’s just hang on to a lead’ I may have been more patient.
Hopefully we‘ll get through this season and then fans will be allowed and games will change to having an atmosphere again and things will be different

 

[CrazyHeart]

I didn’t want a Poch sacked, we had played some good stuff while he was in charge and the opportunity was missed to improve the team at the right time and push on.
Since he took over we have played less attractive football and, to me, I can’t see any style of play developing.
I admit I am biased cause I’ve always loathed the man but if he could get us playing attractive football and not ‘let’s just hang on to a lead’ I may have been more patient.
Hopefully we‘ll get through this season and then fans will be allowed and games will change to having an atmosphere again and things will be different

I hear you, but as I mentioned earlier - I care more about results than attractive football (which will follow from success). We gotta start somewhere and if it means an initial structured approach then so be it. Right now the team’s in a funk and it’s gotta be addressed by players and management. Immediately going to the nuclear option will almost guarantee disastrous results. I say let’s give JM the end of the season and assess his results before going there - that’s not so unreasonable is it?

 

[mumfordspur]

Not by a long shot... I'm curious though, when we were in free fall under Poch, sitting at 14th... were you calling for his sacking back then? If no, then it's a little hypocritical to want Jose out at this stage, but if yes - then you've defeated your own argument by suggesting a replacement manager (if Jose's as bad as you say he is). Finally - If it's not so cut and dry as I presented, then do we just keep shuffling managers until we look like 1970 Brazil instantly?

I am right slap bang in the middle of should he stay or should he go
but you brought in Pochettino so I would say he had credit in the bank for seasons of CL
Mourinho has no credit in the bank with us and coming up 15months he should have stamped a certain style of play by now - he himself said he inherited a better squad than he did at Man U.
Finally is 8th a great improvement on 14th

 

[CrazyHeart]

I am right slap bang in the middle of should he stay or should he go
but you brought in Pochettino so I would say he had credit in the bank for seasons of CL
Mourinho has no credit in the bank with us and coming up 15months he should have stamped a certain style of play by now - he himself said he inherited a better squad than he did at Man U.
Finally is 8th a great improvement on 14th

He has stamped a certain type of play, which has proven to work and getting us to the top of the league. Right now, the players are in a bit of a slump and making too many individual mistakes with key players out. Granted, he has to lead the way to fix that -- no argument there.

I still think we have a better squad than Man United even with their high-dollar thumb sucking triple jumper, Van Halen's Diver Down theatrics and corrupt bought off officials almost guaranteeing them a penalty in every game to give them a good leg up in the league.

The point I was making was that asking JM to be sacked at 8th while being ok with MP on a downward spiral at 14th is hypocritical. It was not a comparative analysis of the merits of either position. I, too am appreciative of MP's accomplishments but this credit you speak of that he accumulated ran out for me right when we were a few points off being relegation fodder.

 

[double0]

Levy's to blame 100%.

He should of listened and backed Pochittinho with Tottenham 2.0, instead he allowed average players to bloat around on good money didn't clear the decks for the rebuild, neglected the football side by doing things on the cheap. Mourinho, Bale were the biggest tricks in abiding the fans sense of development big names unfortunately past their best.

When you seriously look back on the signings Pochittinho actually wanted he barely got imo 3.

Now we are left with the most stubborn, arrogant, self serving, tactically negative manager out there but with a winning record of trophies...so he deserves respect

Again it falls onto Levy back him with the players or sack him.

 

[parj]

My biggest concern is if we don't correct the attacking style of play, and by this I mean have a style of play, then we will list Kane in the summer.

Right now it is clear that the players have no idea how we are playing when we have the ball. If that doesn't change, our attackers will either leave or help get Mourinho sacked. But either way, we just lost 2 years of development.

 

[JimmyG2]

Problem is he defends a narrow lead
even when he hasn't got one.
See Chelsea in the 1st. half
One trick phoney.
Very long term fan
who's seen some dire times
but there was usually
the promise of better.
And I don't mean trophies.

 

[Shadydan]

Levy's to blame 100%.

He should of listened and backed Pochittinho with Tottenham 2.0, instead he allowed average players to bloat around on good money didn't clear the decks for the rebuild, neglected the football side by doing things on the cheap. Mourinho, Bale were the biggest tricks in abiding the fans sense of development big names unfortunately past their best.

When you seriously look back on the signings Pochittinho actually wanted he barely got imo 3.

Now we are left with the most stubborn, arrogant, self serving, tactically negative manager out there but with a winning record of trophies...so he deserves respect

Again it falls onto Levy back him with the players or sack him.

Seems like this is said on a daily basis on here but people just keep ignoring it because it doesn't align with their agenda or they just don't want to believe it but you do realise that there was money to spend on 2018 but Poch chose not to spend, he turned down Tielemans for example and I believe Maddison.

I take the point that he wasn't backed properly in previous windows but then again we had a stadium to build so it's kinda understandable from that pov.

 

[Metalhead]

Problem is he defends a narrow lead
even when he hasn't got one.
See Chelsea in the 1st. half
One trick phoney.
Very long term fan
who's seen some dire times
but there was usually
the promise of better.
And I don't mean trophies.

I don't remember there being the promise of better much in the 90s. Again, you don't like Jose, that's fair enough but if he's s phoney then I don't think the fans were complaining at those clubs as those trophies were being lifted.

 

[JimmyG2]

I don't remember there being the promise of better much in the 90s. Again, you don't like Jose, that's fair enough but if he's s phoney then I don't think the fans were complaining at those clubs as those trophies were being lifted.

Takes over a very expensive ready assembled successful squad
adds buckets of money.
As Harry Redknapp often says
'With that squad he should win the World Cup'
Doesn't do basic squad building
Pisses off key players,
discards others who top class soon after
(De Bruyne, head of a long list )
Doesn't do youth
As the stats quoted on here show.
Doesn't stay long.
Hit and run merchant.

No I don't like him, never have,
and if it shows fair enough.
Wrong DNA for Spurs
especially after the success under Poch.
Did I mention the football?
The basic game plan?
Best not.

There was always the promise of better
because we sacked our managers on average
every 18 months.
12 I think while Wenger was at Arsenal.
If Mourinho only stays that long.
Levy hasn't the nerve.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Takes over a very expensive ready assembled successful squad
adds buckets of money.
As Harry Redknapp often says
'With that squad he should win the World Cup'
Doesn't do basic squad building
Pisses off key players,
discards others who top class soon after
(De Bruyne, head of a long list )
Doesn't do youth
As the stats quoted on here show.
Doesn't stay long.
Hit and run merchant.

No I don't like him, never have,
and if it shows fair enough.
Wrong DNA for Spurs
especially after the success under Poch.
Did I mention the football?
The basic game plan?
Best not.

There was always the promise of better
because we sacked our managers on average
every 18 months.
12 I think while Wenger was at Arsenal.
If only Mourinho onle stays that long.
Levy hasn't the nerve.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Good account except for success under Poch

 

[Metalhead]

Takes over a very expensive ready assembled successful squad
adds buckets of money.
As Harry Redknapp often says
'With that squad he should win the World Cup'
Doesn't do basic squad building
Pisses off key players,
discards others who top class soon after
(De Bruyne, head of a long list )
Doesn't do youth
As the stats quoted on here show.
Doesn't stay long.
Hit and run merchant.

No I don't like him, never have,
and if it shows fair enough.
Wrong DNA for Spurs
especially after the success under Poch.
Did I mention the football?
The basic game plan?
Best not.

There was always the promise of better
because we sacked our managers on average
every 18 months.
12 I think while Wenger was at Arsenal.
If only Mourinho onle stays that long.
Levy hasn't the nerve.

I know that he's not everyone's cup of tea and I have my doubts as to whether he'll even see out his contract BUT I feel that it doesn't help when people don't like to give any credit for someone's success because they want to create an overwhelming argument that they are a failure.

 

[JimmyG2]

Good account except for success under Poch
[/QUOTE
Not successful if you only count trophies
but successful in every other way
that matters to me
Regular Champions' League
and a CL final.

 

[elfy]

For me, I was gutted when Poch was sacked and came close to breaking my TV when Mourinho was appointed.
But, he was the manager so I gave him a chance - and last season I don't think you could fault him too much, the problems were glaring and largely not of his making.
This season, what has done it for me is the football we are playing. I was willing to accept dire football when we were getting results, but right now we are playing the worst football I have ever seen us play (by worst I mean entertainment wise) and not picking up points.
Under Poch, I think we were guilty of tactical naivety - there were times when the Mourinho approach would probably have got us results. But, even when we were losing under Poch I wanted to watch very game and every game until the end. Now, we are boring. Boring, dull and uninspiring.
That for me is why I think it's time for him to go, not results but I cannot bear to watch us play any more.
That said, if he does go and is replaced by Rodgers then I may just give up on football altogether!

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

and win nothing, success?

 

[CrazyHeart]

For me, I was gutted when Poch was sacked and came close to breaking my TV when Mourinho was appointed.
But, he was the manager so I gave him a chance - and last season I don't think you could fault him too much, the problems were glaring and largely not of his making.
This season, what has done it for me is the football we are playing. I was willing to accept dire football when we were getting results, but right now we are playing the worst football I have ever seen us play (by worst I mean entertainment wise) and not picking up points.
Under Poch, I think we were guilty of tactical naivety - there were times when the Mourinho approach would probably have got us results. But, even when we were losing under Poch I wanted to watch very game and every game until the end. Now, we are boring. Boring, dull and uninspiring.
That for me is why I think it's time for him to go, not results but I cannot bear to watch us play any more.
That said, if he does go and is replaced by Rodgers then I may just give up on football altogether!

Sorry dude, but firing managers in response to an insatiable crack-like yearning for action packed football has always cost us and left us in perpetual rebuild status. We need stability, structure and silverware before getting us to the action packed Van Damme movie that some so badly want. It's cost us before and it'll cost us again. How many more replace/rinse/repeat cycles do you want us endure? Action packed football without foundation consistently leads to failure. I respect that you want us to be entertaining, but at this stage I'm willing to sacrifice that for silverware. We can have the style discussion at that juncture - but for right now, I'm backing Jose 110% and seeing where things are at season's end. On the watchability thing - I don't know about you, but I actually enjoyed watching today's game just as much as I enjoyed the thrashing we gave United, City and Arsenal, catapulting us to the top of the table.