Moussa Dembélé

[danielneeds]

On another note, I have no idea how Rhodes hasn't been picked up by a PL club yet, he's scored so many goals in the Championship.

Blackburn put a big asking price on him, when he was scoring heavily.

Couldn't see him being successful in the PL though, not quick or physical enough or particularly good on the ball.

 

[Sweech]

Remy, Bony and Walcott beat our no back up at all quite considerably though. Don't think anyone's mentioned we want a superstar, I've seen the like of Shane Long quite welcomed on here. Just not a 19 yr old raw kid from Fulham to be the only back up

Really?

Walcott?

Really?

He's as much a striker as Son, Chadli, or Njie.

Except he's injured more and scores less.

 

[whitelanefever]

Sadly true.

@millsey is a classic 'would rather be right than Spurs do well' poster.

When we win the league with a MD2 winner on the last day of the season he'll be heartbroken.

After next season so

 

[timmy]

Lot of smoke around here on this one and certainly sounds like a good deal, plus a player that can be trained by Poch to deliver in the next few years.

However, I don't think he's being brought in as our ideal 2nd striker/back up. I'd imagine we'd tie this one up either way but will only know if we bring him in immediately or loan him back for the remainder of the season if we can bring in a more immediately impactful player i.e. Berahino or someone a bit unexpected.

Remember, Poch isn't in a rush to buy all the players. He'd seemingly happily wait until summer for that striker and train/use what we have in the meantime, even if that is just Kane plus Dembele.

Sensible and I believe factual post

We simply don't buy for now anymore. It's always for the future when the player has an established foundation for our club culture

Can't think of a Poch signing that has slipped straight into the starting eleven

 

[whitelanefever]

So has a bad attitude then?

Seriously Millsey a lad who's development has been tracked by Bayern since he was a kid doesn't have talent or something a little special about him for nothing.. I agree with parts of your earlier post saying he needs work.. of course he does though it's not like he is a player who has reached his limit & everyone knows his level & is not going to improve, there's a real raw talent there to work with & if Pochettino can improve Davies to the extent he is putting in decent performances & not been a liability then I for one think it is a very astute signing.. from what I have seen of MDlino his general play outside the box is very good.. he just really needs to work on his movement & composure inside the box.. that is easily worked on..

 

[Shadydan]

Meek Millsey

 

[arunspurs]

Blackburn put a big asking price on him, when he was scoring heavily.

Couldn't see him being successful in the PL though, not quick or physical enough or particularly good on the ball.

Does he score 20+ (sometimes 30+) a season for last 5 seasons ? Yes...
He can step up in PL & still find the net

 

[danielneeds]

Does he score 20+ (sometimes 30+) a season for last 5 seasons ? Yes...
He can step up in PL & still find the net

There are loads of very prolific Championship strikers who couldn't hack it in the PL. Danny Graham and Ebanks-Blake were both top scorers, many more of those than Charlie Austins.

 

[arunspurs]

There are loads of very prolific Championship strikers who couldn't hack it in the PL. Danny Graham and Ebanks-Blake were both top scorers, many more of those than Charlie Austins.

Danny Graham ? scored 24 in 1 season in 45 games...thats it
Ebanks Blake ? scored 25 in 1 season in 45 games...thats it

Rhodes ? 2011 to 2015 - in 4 years scored 111 goals from 176 games, averaging 27.5 goals

Ironically other two got the chance in PL & didnt turn up. Rhodes - yet to get the chance. Partly down to the asking fee of Blackburn & clubs unable to match his 40k a week (+bonus) which Blackburn were offering.

End of the day, he has to play a season in PL to be called failure.

Atleast with Middesbourough you would hope that he could get into PL next season & may be show he is good enough in PL.

 

[danielneeds]

Danny Graham ? scored 24 in 1 season in 45 games...thats it
Ebanks Blake ? scored 25 in 1 season in 45 games...thats it

Rhodes ? 2011 to 2015 - in 4 years scored 111 goals from 176 games, averaging 27.5 goals

Ironically other two got the chance in PL & didnt turn up. Rhodes - yet to get the chance. Partly down to the asking fee of Blackburn & clubs unable to match his 40k a week (+bonus) which Blackburn were offering.

End of the day, he has to play a season in PL to be called failure.

Atleast with Middesbourough you would hope that he could get into PL next season & may be show he is good enough in PL.

I realise he's not had a chance yet, while he may score in the PL, I
cant see him being prolific, and the rest of his all round play is decidedly average.

 

[arunspurs]

I realise he's not had a chance yet, while he may score in the PL, I
cant see him being prolific, and the rest of his all round play is decidedly average.

Cant see him prolific - thats a guess isnt it ?
Because there is certainly no logic to explain that

Rest of his game isnt average...He had great partnership with Gestede & has good link up play.
But then he is a striker. A defender gets paid for not allowing goals in. Striker gets paid for scoring. Not everyone can be Kane. Klose or Fowler or Nistelrroy did not do anything other than score.

 

[arunspurs]

Regarding Dembele - I have no clue. From the youtube videos, looks a good prospect. But then he hasnt scored in last 6 games for Fulham. Who knows, it may be down to their team not creating enough chances - probably says why they are in relegation fight.
Atleast he looks to have the pace & power. Poch has a good track record of improving strikers - so hopefully, he gets the better of him, if we do sign him.

 

[Shadydan]

Danny Graham ? scored 24 in 1 season in 45 games...thats it
Ebanks Blake ? scored 25 in 1 season in 45 games...thats it

Rhodes ? 2011 to 2015 - in 4 years scored 111 goals from 176 games, averaging 27.5 goals

Ironically other two got the chance in PL & didnt turn up. Rhodes - yet to get the chance. Partly down to the asking fee of Blackburn & clubs unable to match his 40k a week (+bonus) which Blackburn were offering.

End of the day, he has to play a season in PL to be called failure.

Atleast with Middesbourough you would hope that he could get into PL next season & may be show he is good enough in PL.

And yet no PL team have taken a chance on him, I think that tells you a lot.

 

[arunspurs]

And yet no PL team have taken a chance on him, I think that tells you a lot.

That doesnt tell anything. No PL team took chance on Austin either, till price went down to 4m.
As I already said, Rhodes is on 40k a week + bonus. Not many clubs in PL will take a punt on him being that expensive
Unless, you give him a chance & he fails, there's no point in this argument.

 

[arunspurs]

This is a post in a Fulham forum yesterday....
No clue if this is a funny post or actual ITK...Judge it for yourself

Subject: Dembele to Spurs FACT
Author: Polecat - The Voice of Reason

"Despite being in Lao, I can tell you this is a done deal. My sources are solicited through my acquaintance the Finance Minister of Lao. Despite this being a poor, developing nation, corruption etc. means that the privileged few have sophisticated, informed connections. Since making his acquaintance, the Minister, a Manchester United fan, has a passing interest in Fulham too (hence Fulham feed more often than not provided at the favorite opiuim den). Anyway, his source is impeccable and he has lumped $5000 of his hard earned graft money on Dembele to Spurs this window"

 

[voxy28]

I don't think we are even in for this guy. He's not good enough to cone in and do a job this season, can't play various positions, we may have well gone for Austin if we just want a CF, and Poch wants someone like Berahino as he can play either side of Kane and has pace and plays off the line. All so different to Dembele. Just can't see it

Lot of smoke around here on this one and certainly sounds like a good deal, plus a player that can be trained by Poch to deliver in the next few years.

However, I don't think he's being brought in as our ideal 2nd striker/back up. I'd imagine we'd tie this one up either way but will only know if we bring him in immediately or loan him back for the remainder of the season if we can bring in a more immediately impactful player i.e. Berahino or someone a bit unexpected.

Remember, Poch isn't in a rush to buy all the players. He'd seemingly happily wait until summer for that striker and train/use what we have in the meantime, even if that is just Kane plus Dembele.

If Poch don't think MD2 can back up Kane then this deal would had been done since he would remain in Fullham for the rest of the season. The fact that we want him immediately means he will play and back up for Kane. May not be a game changer but certainly a utility player we can use as Kane sub when we are winning or throw him in when we play 2 up front.

There is nothing to lose signing him, only provides us with more flexibility and options. Most important is to keep Kane from getting injured unnecessarily for playing full 90 min.

 

[$hoguN]

On another note, I have no idea how Rhodes hasn't been picked up by a PL club yet, he's scored so many goals in the Championship.

Because his overall game is very limited

 

[sloth]

It's my contention that levy, leading a team of poch and mitchell should have found and landed a striker, from the whole wide world, to enhance our squad and prospects within the timespan I quoted. He's in charge, and should be judged on results not given get out of jail free cards for failure because of x owner, y agent or z competitor club having the temerity to get in his way.

It's also my contention that loosening the purse strings a little (bid values and payment structures) can make the difference in landing a key player or missing out.

It's also my contention that even if we finish fourth it doesn't prove anyone right in saying see, we didn't need a striker after all. It simply means we've lucked out with Kane's fitness. I won't buy car insurance next year, just hope for the best.

Unfortunately Poch does the talking for the other two, right player, character, price, he can say it as many times as he likes, all that matters are actions, plugging this glaring hole in the squad, not line to take with the media or excuses put forward for not getting it done. It's taken way too long, all the pundits good and bad point to this issue when assessing the league run in.

I will feel relieved when dembele or an other does come in, and a tiny bit less anxious as a consequence when Kane goes down or starts blowing out of his arse after an hour of games. Or when it's nil nil at home to park the bus and it looks like we've run out of ideas with half an hour left.

So you basically think that Poch is wrong in his approach.

Fair enough.

 

[spursfan77]

This is a post in a Fulham forum yesterday....
No clue if this is a funny post or actual ITK...Judge it for yourself

Subject: Dembele to Spurs FACT
Author: Polecat - The Voice of Reason

"Despite being in Lao, I can tell you this is a done deal. My sources are solicited through my acquaintance the Finance Minister of Lao. Despite this being a poor, developing nation, corruption etc. means that the privileged few have sophisticated, informed connections. Since making his acquaintance, the Minister, a Manchester United fan, has a passing interest in Fulham too (hence Fulham feed more often than not provided at the favorite opiuim den). Anyway, his source is impeccable and he has lumped $5000 of his hard earned graft money on Dembele to Spurs this window"

You'd be hard pushed to top that as the most random itk ever if it's true and we've had a few.

 

[Danny1]

This is a post in a Fulham forum yesterday....
No clue if this is a funny post or actual ITK...Judge it for yourself

Subject: Dembele to Spurs FACT
Author: Polecat - The Voice of Reason

"Despite being in Lao, I can tell you this is a done deal. My sources are solicited through my acquaintance the Finance Minister of Lao. Despite this being a poor, developing nation, corruption etc. means that the privileged few have sophisticated, informed connections. Since making his acquaintance, the Minister, a Manchester United fan, has a passing interest in Fulham too (hence Fulham feed more often than not provided at the favorite opiuim den). Anyway, his source is impeccable and he has lumped $5000 of his hard earned graft money on Dembele to Spurs this window"

I had to double take as when I read that first line I swear it said "despite being in the loo"......