My one concern

[cheeseman]

:lol:

Why aren't you a Premier League manager? :think:

Wouldn't those Public House conversations be fascinating if you were in charge?

Bloke #1: What do you think of Spurs' new signing, Modric?
Bloke #2: Ramos knows better than me, so I'm not saying anything.

Bloke #1: Lawrenson was talking bollocks on Match of the Day, wasn't he?
Bloke #2: I'm not saying. He knows a lot more than me. He used to play for Liverpool and was once the manager of Peterborough.

Bloke #1: ....miles offside, wasn't he?
Bloke#2: The linesman is a professional. He knows a lot more than me, so I'm not saying anything.

 

[milkman]

We have one big signing in Modric, and signs are that we will make at least one more. But my worry is that we will not get that player that we desperately need above all else.

Modric addresses the creativity problem of our midfield. Defensively I think we are pretty sound, although we could do with a new keeper, and upfront we look great. Keeping Berbatov would be massive, but with Keane, Bent and a quality replacement we look good there. What we desperately need is an experienced, strong central midfield leader.

Trying to identify one of those is a hard enough task in itself, and trying to get one that can fit straight into the team and settle in quickly is nigh on impossible, but I really feel this has to be our top priority now. A world class midfielder could bring the best out of the rest of the midfield and team as a whole. I think it would has the biggest effect for the money spent.

Anyone have a clue who we should be?

It all depends mainly on the teams success. If we are doing well in the league, and if we get CL football then we can certainly attract bigger players but the big players that we sign/have (berba,Modric) will not leave as they are at a successful club and know that more trophies will be win at WHL...

that is the reason why berba may leave as we have had a quite unsuccessful season, with just scraping UEFA football next season and coming 11th in the league! thats why he may move as he may want to go to a bigger club, with more recent success and CL football..... IMO berba will only leave if a CL team puts in an offer over £27mil for him, otherwise he will stay at WHL....

 

[dynamoSpurs]

as i said, unless we get taken over by an enthusiastic billionaire wishing to splash the hardcore cash, we're gonna sit in mediocrity forever.

good players dnt go on trees (i know some do, but honestly..), they cost $$$.

Haven't Chavski clearly proven this as a surefire method??

Kabouls here and Zokoras there are never gonna win us any prolonged glory. u need a team of stars, not one or two. atm, we have ONE. ONE star. and he's probably gonna leave.

why are we such a one-at-a-time-hero club?

 

[SpurSince57]

I have been going on about the need of a new goal keeper and left winger for over two seasons and honestly believe those positions improved will benefit us much more (IMO) than a creative Mid. The left back position is a problem but I have confidence in Assou-Ekotto or Bale to cover that when fit, as for left wing i haven't been impressed at all with Malbranque playing there, that position needs to be addressed once and for all.

I'm a bit surprised Ramos hasn't played Rocha ahead of Dawson (although he has improved a bit more playing in front of Cenry instead of Robbo) with Kings ongoing problems we may need to acquire one more experienced central defender (it seems Ramos doesn't rate Rocha)..someone like Richard Dunne would do fine.

Personally I've been happy with Zokora, Jenas and Huddlestone when his been used to change games IE Carling Cup Final. Lennon has been okey BUT IMO i believe the balance of the team has restricted him and has become heavily marked during games- no creativity on the left has effectively over loaded our play on the right which has become easy for teams to double at times treble up on A Lennon (saying that we haven't been shy of scoring).

Modric looks a good player but i not entirely sure we can play him centrally in a 442..therefore his signing signifies a shift in formation.

Well, we have Gilberto. Whilst BAE showed some promise there were also major flaws in his positioning and reading of the game, and he'll have had effectively over eighteen months out. That's a lot of time and ground to make up. And for all Bale's excellence going forward, set pieces, etc., I have major reservations about his ability to cut it as a LB at the moment; principally, his tackling is way below the standard required.

Clearly, neither Jol nor Ramos rates Rocha. If it had been just one of them, you could have put it down to an odd personal quirk. But both of them?

And playing in front of Cerny hasn't improved Dawson (or at least brought him back up to decent standard); playing alongside Woodgate has. Both Robbo and Radek have dropped some serious clangers this season, but the main problem has been that they've been left seriously exposed by some comedy defending. Whilst having a top-class keeper in would make some difference, it wouldn't have made enough to get us a top four spot last season. I fully agree, we need another quality CB.

Also, a top-drawer DM. Whilst I've recently found myself defending Zokora against some of the more ridiculous criticisms (if that's the right word), something I never thought I'd find myself doing, we really need better. I'm also getting a little fed up with Jenas talking the talk and not walking the walk.

As for Modric, where he'll play, and what basic formation we'll adopt next season, i'm not even going to attempt to second-guess Ramos.

 

[Locotoro]

its catch 22 for tottenham and always has been for as far back as I can remember..

We need new player, but we need TOO many to get in one season, therefore, the few goodens that we DO have, will leave. So by the time we get another good one, an existing good one leaves.

Viscious cycle.

We get Berbatov, then he leaves and we get Modric. Then he'll leave and we'll get someone else.

You need a billionaire to come, take the reigns and replicate an abromovich. BUY everyone, instantly. Build something properly. Not half-arsed attempts. If we keep doing what we're doing we're going to live in the land of meidocrity forever. Money talks.

:bang:

what more can i say...:roll:

 

[dynamoSpurs]

its true isn't it?

 

[lukespurs7]

Modric looks a good player and will add creativity to the midfield which we need. Just hope we sign players in the other positions we NEED!!!!

 

[Flatters]

Wouldn't those Public House conversations be fascinating if you were in charge?

Bloke #1: What do you think of Spurs' new signing, Modric?
Bloke #2: Ramos knows better than me, so I'm not saying anything.

Bloke #1: Lawrenson was talking bollocks on Match of the Day, wasn't he?
Bloke #2: I'm not saying. He knows a lot more than me. He used to play for Liverpool and was once the manager of Peterborough.

Bloke #1: ....miles offside, wasn't he?
Bloke#2: The linesman is a professional. He knows a lot more than me, so I'm not saying anything.

All that typing... and for what? :lol:

My point wasn't to not have an opinion. My point was to be more optimistic and trust those who know better than us that they're doing the right thing for our club.

 

[idlepete]

You need a billionaire to come, take the reigns and replicate an abromovich. BUY everyone, instantly. Build something properly.

Buying something outright and building something are absolute polar opposites.

 

[Bonjour]

Can't we just send Robbie Keane to South Korea and get 9 clones?

Can't cost more than £10mil each, surely? :-|

 

[DC_Boy]

as i said, unless we get taken over by an enthusiastic billionaire wishing to splash the hardcore cash, we're gonna sit in mediocrity forever.

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Hi DS - while I wouldn't use the word mediocrity I basically agree with you - as I keep saying without a level of cash that is way more than the ENIC model will provide we won't break into the top 4

A lot of people, and I respect their views, would rather settle for aiming to be best of the rest than buying titles etc.

We need a bigger stadium and about 4 extra quality players plus replacing any we lose - I don't think ENIC have that money

 

[cheeseman]

All that typing... and for what? :lol:

Don't worry. I can type quite quickly.

 

[dynamoSpurs]

as i said, unless we get taken over by an enthusiastic billionaire wishing to splash the hardcore cash, we're gonna sit in mediocrity forever.

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Hi DS - while I wouldn't use the word mediocrity I basically agree with you - as I keep saying without a level of cash that is way more than the ENIC model will provide we won't break into the top 4

A lot of people, and I respect their views, would rather settle for aiming to be best of the rest than buying titles etc.

We need a bigger stadium and about 4 extra quality players plus replacing any we lose - I don't think ENIC have that money

Exactly. While I don't particularly want to buy success, or have a billionaire take over - its the only way to the top these days.

We cannot any longer keep buying one good player here and one good player there. We either fix everything immediately or we just going to continue the same old shit. 11th in the league - again!? Jesus, I thought those days were well and truly over, but clearly not.

 

[cheeseman]

Yeah, terrible innit? 11th best team in the nation, a major trophy in the cabinet, and European football again.

I tell you what; we'd have settled for this in the Nineties!

 

[DC_Boy]

Yeah, terrible innit? 11th best team in the nation, a major trophy in the cabinet, and European football again.

I tell you what; we'd have settled for this in the Nineties!

Hi Cheeseman Basically I'm with you - I've said many a time this is a good/very good season - I'm quite happy to go on as we are - get 5th occasionally and 4th once every 20 years or so and hopefully at least 2 trophies per decade - and keep playing good football

however as you know there seems to be a demand that we do much better - basically get top 4 fairly consistently- or turn big 4 to big 5

and for that we need more money than the ENIC model can provide - IMHO

 

[van_Pommel]

Hi Cheeseman Basically I'm with you - I've said many a time this is a good/very good season - I'm quite happy to go on as we are - get 5th occasionally and 4th once every 20 years or so and hopefully at least 2 trophies per decade - and keep playing good football

however as you know there seems to be a demand that we do much better - basically get top 4 fairly consistently- or turn big 4 to big 5

and for that we need more money than the ENIC model can provide - IMHO

Was this 'tongue-in-cheek'? My sense of humour's not what it used to be.

 

[DC_Boy]

Was this 'tongue-in-cheek'? My sense of humour's not what it used to be.

no entirely serious VP which bit did you find risible as Life of Brian would have it

if you think on the ENIC model we can do better than the scenario I've outlined then you're more optimistic than I am -

I've said so many times we need a massive cash injection and I'm happy to buy the title - but it seems many Spurs fans disagree

yet somehow think we can break the top 4 - me and DS disagree- it ain't happening - so if people want ENIC, and I think they're doing fine, then get used to the trophy returns and league positions ENIC can deliver is my advice

 

[van_Pommel]

no entirely serious VP which bit did you find risible as Life of Brian would have it

if you think on the ENIC model we can do better than the scenario I've outlined then you're more optimistic than I am -

I've said so many times we need a massive cash injection and I'm happy to buy the title - but it seems many Spurs fans disagree

yet somehow think we can break the top 4 - me and DS disagree- it ain't happening - so if people want ENIC, and I think they're doing fine, then get used to the trophy returns and league positions ENIC can deliver is my advice

Well, yes I am optmistic. I think that's part of what following a team is, if your not then what's the point?

We should have finished 4th 2 seasons ago if it weren't for a dodgy Lasagna. If we had, for all you know, we could have brought in a few top class players that summer and still be there now.

Also, Arsenal may be one of the richest teams around, but they dont spend like one. Wenger built (and continues to do so) a very strong team, without buying superstars. Building a team isn't always about buying Ballack, Shevchenko, Essien and any other big name player who you like the look of. It's like building a machine, you need the right components to do their specific jobs on the pitch. Once Juande has decided the system he wants to play, he will go out and get the players who he knows can do the specfic jobs which each position requires. This is precisely the reason I dont feel we need the likes of Ronaldinho, Deco etc. They are just big names, with a bit of hard work and thorough scouting we can find the right players for half the money. They will take a season or two to bed in (just like most of Wengers signings have) but along the way will develop a strong team spirit which is essential building a successfull team, it's like the oil in an engine!

This is obviously the dream scenario, but it's what every team without Chelsea's money should aspire to. Juande did it with Sevilla and I'm sure that's what he'll try to do with us. He's as similar a manager to Wenger as you'll find in this respect.

I do see your point mate but if I followed Spurs with that attitude I wouldn't enjoy it anywhere near as much. Optimism is the reason I get butterflies in my stomach before everygame, immediately think a player is the best thing since sliced bread just because they signed for Spurs, argue with my best mates till I'm blue in the face that King is better than Toure, or any of the other symptoms that supporting Spurs may cause.

 

[leelee]

Christian Poulson of Sevilla!!

 

[DC_Boy]

I do see your point mate but if I followed Spurs with that attitude I wouldn't enjoy it anywhere near as much. Optimism is the reason I get butterflies in my stomach before everygame, immediately think a player is the best thing since sliced bread just because they signed for Spurs, argue with my best mates till I'm blue in the face that King is better than Toure, or any of the other symptoms that supporting Spurs may cause.

fair point VP - but I go the other way - as I said I'm quite happy with the way things have gone overall under ENIC - you don't see me moaning week in week out like some fans - you don't see going hysterical every time we lose a game like the knee jerk brigade that so many forums and indedd the Spurs fans at matches are 'blessed with'

to me to repeat under ENIC we'll get pretty much what we've got so far - 5th places at best - a 4th place once every 20 years or so and hopefully two trophies a decade - that's all the ENIC model I'm afraid can offer and if others want to dream of more that's fine - but the cash ain't there

and yes it takes more than cash but the cash is a sine qua non IMHO

it's not just CFC - Man U & Pool spend massive too - and AFC have an unbeleivably good manager and scouting system plus a name that attracts the like of Fabregas

then Everton Villa are roughly on a par with us history-wise (they'll both claim they're bigger) not to mention Rovers City Pompey Toon etc

chances of us consistently cracking top 4 without mega-money - not good - I'd say negligible