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Nathan Oduwa & Dominic Ball - Rangers

IGSpur

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Oduwa got brutally taken down in the first 5 seconds of the game.

Clearly premeditated, absolute filth.

Hacked down a second time on 25 mins - finally a booking.

Body checked on 33 minutes. No booking. Incredible.

Bit disappointing the Rangers players aren't squaring up to the perpetrators, or at least landing a couple back on them.

Nathan needs to show them he's not intimidated or it will get worse - as a tactic to stop him. Being double marked on both flanks.

They're clearly intimidated/offended by his talent - having not seen a step over in Scotland since the mid 90s.

Don't get me wrong it was a foul but I don't think he got touched by the one on 25mins. He moved his leg but if he didn't he would have got wiped out, just the rolling around that got me a bit. He is better than that.

Get up and keep going you're a class above. The forearm smash was ridiculous though
 

IGSpur

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Btw is anyone watching this on BBC ALBA, are they speaking English with a really strong Scottish accent or is it in another language. There's two guys speaking English with slight accents, but there is one guy who sounds like he is speaking a completely different language
 

chrissivad

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Btw is anyone watching this on BBC ALBA, are they speaking English with a really strong Scottish accent or is it in another language. There's two guys speaking English with slight accents, but there is one guy who sounds like he is speaking a completely different language

it will be gaelic
 

chrissivad

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Thought that was mainly spoken in Ireland. Thought I was quite well versed in Geography etc. How widely is Gaelic spoken in Scotland then for the guy to be commentating in it?

Its a slightly different dialect, and not widely spoken, more so the western side of the country, but even then in small numbers
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Don't get me wrong it was a foul but I don't think he got touched by the one on 25mins. He moved his leg but if he didn't he would have got wiped out, just the rolling around that got me a bit. He is better than that.

Get up and keep going you're a class above. The forearm smash was ridiculous though

I've not studied the 25 min foul so closely - though I thought he got caught on that one.

The defender's reaction to the card tells you he'd left one on him, I could be wrong.

I thought Oduwa had subdued spells after each whack - which gives opponents an incentive to keep kicking him.

He needs to learn to get angry on the pitch and channel that it into his performance.

I'm starting to see why we sent him there - the kicking, the double marking, the breaking down defensive teams - all useful experience.

Plus Warburton is the guy you want to work on his mentality.
 
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IGSpur

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Just seen the potential ankle breaker, no wonder he pulled out when he went down easily. That is disgusting referring. Good thing Warburton brought him off he knows it wasn't going to end well out there and he was managing his players safety.

Really sad that a talented player has to be taken off by his manager to protect him when that is the refs job, ridiculous that football has come to that up there
 

Spursidol

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Warburton on the match, tackles on Oduwa 'inappropriate' , taken off at HT for his own protection, will be assessed tomorrow, hopefully ok for Saturday
 

Col_M

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Where was the referee for that tackle??!! Oh standing right in front of it!
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Just seen the potential ankle breaker, no wonder he pulled out when he went down easily. That is disgusting referring. Good thing Warburton brought him off he knows it wasn't going to end well out there and he was managing his players safety.

Really sad that a talented player has to be taken off by his manager to protect him when that is the refs job, ridiculous that football has come to that up there

Nothing new it seems..

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-boss-john-mcglynn-says-1265263

My impression is flair players get a kicking in Scotland, and the SFA and referees up there have allowed this culture to exist.

By doing so they've lost control of the game.

That manifests itself in the suppression of skilful young players expressing themselves, and failure to qualify for tournaments.

Oduwa is a 19 year old lad finally getting the chance to show the world what he can do.

Why are they all so insecure and enraged by the concept of flair?
 

Roynie

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I've just watched that tackle and that really should be why the national F.A's should have the authority to punish retrospectively to protect the players if the Ref hasn't got the balls to do it. The Ref should thren have no games for a period as a punishment for not acting when he saw the incident.
 

Yorkville Spur

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I like Warburton and think he's a great coach for Oduwa now, but fuck this, let's bring him home. With Chadli, Son and Pritchard hurt we're short of attackers anyway and we might find some competitive minutes for him until we can find a better loan for him in January. Should have sent him to Holland or Belgium.
 

IGSpur

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Nothing new it seems..

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-boss-john-mcglynn-says-1265263

My impression is flair players get a kicking in Scotland, and the SFA and referees up there have allowed this culture to exist.

By doing so they've lost control of the game.

That manifests itself in the suppression of skilful young players expressing themselves, and failure to qualify for tournaments.

Oduwa is a 19 year old lad finally getting the chance to show the world what he can do.

Why are they all so insecure and enraged by the concept of flair?

It's probably why Ryan Gauld left. Was probably getting abuse as a 15 year old.

I like Warburton and think he's a great coach for Oduwa now, but fuck this, let's bring him home. With Chadli, Son and Pritchard hurt we're short of attackers anyway and we might find some competitive minutes for him until we can find a better loan for him in January. Should have sent him to Holland or Belgium.

While I was worried watching him earlier in the tread as I've seen some real hacks on on him this season, that challenge is the worse so. That is the first time where it looks like he was lucky not to have left with a broken leg. The forearm smash was bad too. And by the lack of punishment and one footballer up there saying it's what he should expect if he is to act a clown then clearly it won't stop soon.

We need to pull him back and send him to Roda otherwise what is the point in having the link. They are really pleased with Ball unsurprisingly

For those who never saw the forearm to the throat it's below. Are they waiting for serious injury before they do something. At what point does one footballer actively looking to injure another one under the guise of a tackle become assault? Serious question

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Dharmabum

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Here is what they manager, Mark Churchill, had to say :confused:

Oduwa Ibrox outrage - Burchill loses the plot

Following up on his comical response yesterday to criticism of his players at Ibrox, Livingston manager Mark Burchill has managed to dig his hole even deeper by referring to Rangers winger Nathan Oduwa’s ethnicity as a defence of his Kieron Gibbon’s career-threatening tackle on him in the opening seconds of Rangers’ quarter final versus his men in Govan last night.
Speaking on Clyde’s Super Scoreboard, the former Celtic player comfounded listeners and compounded his own mistakes by making an even worse case to defend the tackle.
He said:
“We’ve got to remember here; there is two players involved in this. Kieron Gibbons is a young, talented Scottish footballer who has signed for a Scottish club. Nathan Oduwa is an English footballer who has not signed for a Scottish club. So we are pulling someone…we’re dragging someone over the coal who is one of our own, who is a player who could possibly play for Scotland in the future…”
 

CornerPinDreamer

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Here is what they manager, Mark Churchill, had to say :confused:

Oduwa Ibrox outrage - Burchill loses the plot

Following up on his comical response yesterday to criticism of his players at Ibrox, Livingston manager Mark Burchill has managed to dig his hole even deeper by referring to Rangers winger Nathan Oduwa’s ethnicity as a defence of his Kieron Gibbon’s career-threatening tackle on him in the opening seconds of Rangers’ quarter final versus his men in Govan last night.
Speaking on Clyde’s Super Scoreboard, the former Celtic player comfounded listeners and compounded his own mistakes by making an even worse case to defend the tackle.
He said:
“We’ve got to remember here; there is two players involved in this. Kieron Gibbons is a young, talented Scottish footballer who has signed for a Scottish club. Nathan Oduwa is an English footballer who has not signed for a Scottish club. So we are pulling someone…we’re dragging someone over the coal who is one of our own, who is a player who could possibly play for Scotland in the future…”

Burchill sounds like a piece of shit ...
 

thefierycamel

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Here is what they manager, Mark Churchill, had to say :confused:

Oduwa Ibrox outrage - Burchill loses the plot

Following up on his comical response yesterday to criticism of his players at Ibrox, Livingston manager Mark Burchill has managed to dig his hole even deeper by referring to Rangers winger Nathan Oduwa’s ethnicity as a defence of his Kieron Gibbon’s career-threatening tackle on him in the opening seconds of Rangers’ quarter final versus his men in Govan last night.
Speaking on Clyde’s Super Scoreboard, the former Celtic player comfounded listeners and compounded his own mistakes by making an even worse case to defend the tackle.
He said:
“We’ve got to remember here; there is two players involved in this. Kieron Gibbons is a young, talented Scottish footballer who has signed for a Scottish club. Nathan Oduwa is an English footballer who has not signed for a Scottish club. So we are pulling someone…we’re dragging someone over the coal who is one of our own, who is a player who could possibly play for Scotland in the future…”
Yeah....no, he ain't playing for scotland
 

elDiablo

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wtf? how can you come out and defend that tackle just because he is scottish and the guy he tackled was english? Where do you draw the line - would he defend a young scot with a future in politics killing an englishman because he had a bright future. No wonder scottish football is complete toilet with characters like that lurking around.

The first tackle was bad, but the real issue is the ref not doing anything for me.

The reverse clothes line is even worse though. Absolute disgrace.

After only seeing the first tackle was going to say that's loosely why we sent him up there; to toughen him up akin to modders going to the bosnian league, but after seeing the second genuinely quite concerned for his wellbeing.
 
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