New Stadium Details And Discussions

[mickdale]

or an obsolete one?

 

[Phischy]

On the Audere Est Facere thing, I saw a marketing document the club produced once. There were various reasons for losing it. One being trademarking, another being about creating a brand identity. They were toying with the idea of introducing some new 'catchphrases' meant to define and describe spurs, but they appear to have dropped that, hopefully for good as it was horribly contrived and sounded awful. To be honest though, as long as the club is owned by ENIC and Levy, neither the Latin nor the full crest with Bruce Castle and the Seven Sisters will be anywhere near our club or its brand identity.

 

[spud]

On the Audere Est Facere thing, I saw a marketing document the club produced once. ........ They were toying with the idea of introducing some new 'catchphrases' meant to define and describe spurs........

That's a dangerous game. They've got it right with 'the game is about glory' and just about anything else you want to quote from Danny and Bill Nick, but you only have to look at at the slogan that the enemy have to see how badly wrong it can go: "class is permanent". Talk about irony. The owners have obviously never read up on their history.

 

[brasil_spur]

Will fit in better once there's a few burnt out cars around it.

Yeh they left the smashed out windows and broken beer bottles out of the renders for some reasons.

 

[Nigel Spinal]

All part of the dumbing-down process, in my opinion. Mind you, kids struggle with English these days, so they wouldn't have a clue with a foreign language.

Latin is pedagogically proven to improve English ability. It's why so many schools have reintroduced it over the last 10 years.

 

[Flashspur]

pedagogically...now that's a word you don't often hear on a football forum

 

[Mister Jez]

Just know someone is going to ask what it means, then we will get pages and pages of differing opinions, and the merits thereof.
So, thought i would try and minimize, said pages. For my sanity if nothing else.

Pedagogy (etymology and pronunciation) is the discipline that deals with the theory and practice of education; it thus concerns the study and practice of how best to teach.
Pedagogy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

or an obsolete one?

I see what you mean about Latin being obsolete, in the sense that nobody uses it now, but in certain professions (especially law and medicine),it helps to have a pretty good knowledge of it. Also, quite a few western European languages are formed from Latin and/or Greek.

pedagogically...now that's a word you don't often hear on a football forum

I dunno. I was on a Wet Spam site the other day, and I saw it being used 5 or 6 times in the space of an hour or so. They didn't spell it properly or know what it means, though.

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

Latin is pedagogically proven to improve English ability. It's why so many schools have reintroduced it over the last 10 years.

It's also pretty useful in professions such as medicine or the law. BTW, is it true that the Woolwich trespassers' pre-Wenger Latin motto meant "with the offside trap we prosper"?

 

[longtimespur]

I see what you mean about Latin being obsolete, in the sense that nobody uses it now, but in certain professions (especially law and medicine),it helps to have a pretty good knowledge of it. Also, quite a few western European languages are formed from Latin and/or Greek.

I dunno. I was on a Wet Spam site the other day, and I saw it being used 5 or 6 times in the space of an hour or so. They didn't spell it properly or know what it means, though.

I thought he was being facetious regarding Austere est Facere and ENIC's way of working as far as players are concerned.

 

[Nigel Spinal]

I dunno. I was on a Wet Spam site the other day, and I saw it being used 5 or 6 times in the space of an hour or so. They didn't spell it properly or know what it means, though.

Perhaps they thought Pedagogy was AEK Athens' right back?

 

[mickdale]

I see what you mean about Latin being obsolete, in the sense that nobody uses it now, but in certain professions (especially law and medicine),it helps to have a pretty good knowledge of it. Also, quite a few western European languages are formed from Latin and/or Greek.
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it may still be used in the medicine and law professions but - to the vast majority of Spurs fans worldwide in the twenty-first century, a modern easily understandable slogan in English is best?????

 

[Dougal]

Audere Est Facere was the only Latin I needed to know growing up. Nobody is asking Spurs fans to learn the whole language!

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I see what you mean about Latin being obsolete, in the sense that nobody uses it now, but in certain professions (especially law and medicine),it helps to have a pretty good knowledge of it...

And horticulture, botany & zoology.

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

it may still be used in the medicine and law professions but - to the vast majority of Spurs fans worldwide in the twenty-first century, a modern easily understandable slogan in English is best?????

In this day and age, it's pretty easy for someone to find out what 'audere est facere' means, so I see no reason to drop the Latin. When I and many other Spurs fans had to do a bit of research, this interweb thing didn't exist, so it's a lot easier now. By the same token, I didn't know what 'nil satis nisi optimum' (read that in your best Scouse accent) means, until I looked it up. Fair play to Everton for keeping their traditional motto. Dougal's comment above is on the money. We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[cliff jones]

But not diplomacy, it was annoyingly prevalent a few years back but in spite of the occasional old fart still throwing in the odd term as some sort of testament to their priviledged education thankfully its use is now about as common as an intelligent throw in by Kyle Walker.

Most of these gin slinging types are simply horrified to see the latin tattooed on my leg however, ha

 

[Achap]

It's just as well that none of us were working for the Government in the 19th Century, as we wouldn't have understood much of the news coming in from Generals in the field – for example:

After capturing Sind, General Napier sent a one Latin word dispatch, “Peccavi”, which means, “I have sinned”.

After capturing Lucknow, Lord Clyde sent the Latin phrase, “Nunc fortunatus sum”, which means “I am in luck now”.

After annexing Oudh, Lord Dalhousie sent, “Vovi” which means “I vowed”, i.e. “I've Oudh”.

Oh those Empire boys were a scream.

 

[Lilbaz]

It's just as well that none of us were working for the Government in the 19th Century, as we wouldn't have understood much of the news coming in from Generals in the field – for example:

After capturing Sind, General Napier sent a one Latin word dispatch, “Peccavi”, which means, “I have sinned”.

After capturing Lucknow, Lord Clyde sent the Latin phrase, “Nunc fortunatus sum”, which means “I am in luck now”.

After annexing Oudh, Lord Dalhousie sent, “Vovi” which means “I vowed”, i.e. “I've Oudh”.

Oh those Empire boys were a scream.

Clive Anderson when he was starting out in law asked a qc why it was all in latin.
The qc answered - my dear boy, we don't want just anyone understanding it.

Fuck latin.

 

[topper]

Clive Anderson when he was starting out in law asked a qc why it was all in latin.
The qc answered - my dear boy, we don't want just anyone understanding it.

Fuck latin.

Surely that should read ' Fuckum latinus'

 

[longtimespur]

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/stadiumcam/large_camera3.jpg?24454789

Busy working on SW corner

Can't see exactly where they're pouring though