New Stadium Details And Discussions

[danielneeds]

Not sure if this has been covered before, but looking at the amount of land between the West Stand and the High Road, rather than demolishing the whole ground and starting again, could we not have just pulled down the West Stand and built a new, much bigger and better-featured West Stand with three tiers? Surely we could have added up to 10,000 seats that way?

Clearly the brand new stadium will have ~15,000 more seats than that might have resulted in, but at a much, much grater cost. I guess Levy et al are banking on the predicted greater commercial profile of the club / new ground increasing our future earning potential above and beyond the extra cost associated with a complete rebuild?

The area behind the West Stand was needed for parking. If they had built on it there would have been nowhere for players and staff to park. The new stadium's got a whole underground car park.

 

[dondo]

Just been offered a job to work on the ground. Typical levy though, shit money

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Not sure if this has been covered before, but looking at the amount of land between the West Stand and the High Road, rather than demolishing the whole ground and starting again, could we not have just pulled down the West Stand and built a new, much bigger and better-featured West Stand with three tiers? Surely we could have added up to 10,000 seats that way?

Clearly the brand new stadium will have ~15,000 more seats than that might have resulted in, but at a much, much grater cost. I guess Levy et al are banking on the predicted greater commercial profile of the club / new ground increasing our future earning potential above and beyond the extra cost associated with a complete rebuild?

It was covered as far back as Alan Sugar. It was never not a possibility. We were often knocked back more due to the concern over public transport.
The entire new stadium is just a case of it being shiney and new and people like shiney and new.
I don't me you and I either. I mean people with big money to invest, Players, managers Etc.

Old Trafford is huge but ultimately archaic compared to ours, arse's and even City's

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I can't believe how much is already done.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_zup3XW0AAKemX.jpg

Assuming this is Tongue in cheek?

 

[Phischy]

Not sure if this has been covered before, but looking at the amount of land between the West Stand and the High Road, rather than demolishing the whole ground and starting again, could we not have just pulled down the West Stand and built a new, much bigger and better-featured West Stand with three tiers? Surely we could have added up to 10,000 seats that way?

Clearly the brand new stadium will have ~15,000 more seats than that might have resulted in, but at a much, much grater cost. I guess Levy et al are banking on the predicted greater commercial profile of the club / new ground increasing our future earning potential above and beyond the extra cost associated with a complete rebuild?

There were once plans to do just that. I am not sure what the eventual rationale was for not doing it (perhaps the fact that would be the absolute development potential exhausted and it wouldn't be big enough). The rest of the stadium was getting on a bit too, so I am sure lots of refurb work was expected to be needed over the coming 10 years or so anyway.

Edit:

Here it is, makes the ground look a lot like Stamford Bridge to me (especially the way the tiers are no longer contiguous and there's that big ugly wall where they no longer match).

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

The "new" West stand was actually pretty shit.
I think it held less than the north stand despite being the same height and more than twice as wide.
Terrible design with only a few rows of seats at the bottom, too many boxes then the upper tier.
Considering it was more modern than the East with "better facilities" and cost more to sit in, I hated it.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

There were once plans to do just that. I am not sure what the eventual rationale was for not doing it (perhaps the fact that would be the absolute development potential exhausted and it wouldn't be big enough). The rest of the stadium was getting on a bit too, so I am sure lots of refurb work was expected to be needed over the coming 10 years or so anyway.

Edit:

Here it is, makes the ground look a lot like Stamford Bridge to me (especially the way the tiers are no longer contiguous and there's that big ugly wall where they no longer match).

How'd you find those?
Google just comes back with kss and populous designs.

 

[Lighty64]

I only went to 1 game this season, and it's now gone

 

[markiespurs]

My seat for over 10 years, gone

 

[gregga]

There were once plans to do just that. I am not sure what the eventual rationale was for not doing it (perhaps the fact that would be the absolute development potential exhausted and it wouldn't be big enough). The rest of the stadium was getting on a bit too, so I am sure lots of refurb work was expected to be needed over the coming 10 years or so anyway.

Edit:

Here it is, makes the ground look a lot like Stamford Bridge to me (especially the way the tiers are no longer contiguous and there's that big ugly wall where they no longer match).

Thanks - I never saw those designs!

Personally I quite like the look of grounds like Old Trafford and now Anfield that have one massive stand - somehow it towering over the others makes it look that much bigger. As far away from the generic uniform bowl as one can get!

I'm also sure the parking issues could have been resolved, perhaps at the same time as building Lillywhite House.

Still, at least this way we won't have to put up with the shocking amenities in the south stand anymore!

 

[worcestersauce]

The "new" West stand was actually pretty shit.
I think it held less than the north stand despite being the same height and more than twice as wide.
Terrible design with only a few rows of seats at the bottom, too many boxes then the upper tier.
Considering it was more modern than the East with "better facilities" and cost more to sit in, I hated it.

The boxes were the point of the west stand though, back in the early eighties corporate accommodation was just taking off and we got the jump on other clubs, the income from the west stand far outstripped the possible income from a normal stand.
If I remember correctly it was the go to example when other clubs started out on the same track.

 

[Phischy]

How'd you find those?
Google just comes back with kss and populous designs.

I do research as a big part of my job, so I guess I just have a knack for finding things! Especially if I know what I am looking for.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

The boxes were the point of the west stand though, back in the early eighties corporate accommodation was just taking off and we got the jump on other clubs, the income from the west stand far outstripped the possible income from a normal stand.
If I remember correctly it was the go to example when other clubs started out on the same track.

All it really did though was take up a lot of space for not a lot of seats. And eventually held us back.
Not to mention the cost of building it slowed us down

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

Mother of god

https://twitter.com/LeeRowswell/status/867020143959953408

 

[Phischy]

The pace of the demolition is astonishing. I was sad at first when seeing it (and I still am, although not as much), but more than anything I am in awe of how quickly they are able to bring something so 'permanent' down. It's tough to take, but in a few weeks there will be nothing left of the old girl. Even seeing that top tier of the Paxton almost floating above the remnants of the lost bottom tier is surreal. Parts of the stadium they are ripping out have been there for decades and just built on top of. Hard to comprehend.

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

I'm sure it's been mentioned but surely everything you can see in those photos, seats, signs, hoardings, could be auctioned for the Tottenham Tribute Trust?

 

[markiespurs]

Mother of god

https://twitter.com/LeeRowswell/status/867020143959953408

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Looking at those pictures and I think I've just found my dream job

Getting paid to drive big ass machines and demolish stuff, what's not to like.

 

[danielneeds]

I'm sure it's been mentioned but surely everything you can see in those photos, seats, signs, hoardings, could be auctioned for the Tottenham Tribute Trust?

They made the offer to those who wanted to buy their seats. I think the whole project is so time sensitive now they've just got to crack on at full pelt.

 

[Matthew]

surely there's no way its going to take 4 months to demo the entire stadium? thats a lot machinery working on it.

 

[Hoopspur]

surely there's no way its going to take 4 months to demo the entire stadium? thats a lot machinery working on it.

Think it's a matter of getting all the materials not needed 'off site' as much as the actual demolishing. Biggest fleet of trucks ever I'd guess!