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coyspurs18

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I am sure there is a reason - probably with how best to care for the grass pitch particularly with artificial "sun" lighting - but I think the expectations will be a number of non-NFL events at the stadium also - concerts and such, where they will want the grass pitch out of harm's way. And, they hope that the NFL grows to 10+ games per year if a team relocates to London.

I think it's more to do with the height of the pitch. For NFL games they want it lower so that you are able to see over the players and your sightline isn't blocked. I'm not sure how you would make that the retractable portion if it is to sit lower than the Spurs pitch.
 

Lilbaz

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I'm surprised we've got the football pitch as being the bit that is moved in/out, while it's the NFL pitch that's "permanent".
Seems odd considering 20+ football matches per season and only 2/3 NFL games.

NFL pitch has to be lower as you have to look over the heads of a bagillion subs.
 

waresy

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Absolutely amazing and a little bit of a mad idea. I too wondered why the real pitch would be the retractable one and also thought that it would slide in 1 piece. Having joins could be accused of injuries if not done well. I'd like to see more footage of the test one at the training centre.

Very innovative and going to be fascinating to see it go in very soon
 

WalkerboyUK

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I think it's more to do with the height of the pitch. For NFL games they want it lower so that you are able to see over the players and your sightline isn't blocked. I'm not sure how you would make that the retractable portion if it is to sit lower than the Spurs pitch.

Erm.... Wembley/Twickenham don't have a problem with pitch height for NFL.
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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Has it been said what surface are the boxing/concerts etc going on? Would make the effort of 2 levels more useful if it was on the NFL one
 

14/04/91

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Isn't the pitch coming from the wrong side in this animation? Thought it will be under single stand.

Looks right to me. If you view from the tunnel, the pitch comes out from the right hand side. The animation is filmed from above the north stand.
I think!
 

thfc1973

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I have no problem or concerns with the technology as I'm sure the turf will be seamlessly laid and put in place looking at how the designed it and had been tested, however, I do have serious concerns about the quality of the turf after constant movements to accommodate other playing and entertaining venues.

Normally turf sits and stays in one place once it's been laid and fitted together, but this turf will be constantly broken apart many times a season. That to me is very worrying and surely can't be good for the turf.

I suspect that the constant separating of the turf will eventually lead to surface problems and cutting up.
I really hope I'm wrong but since this (constant separating and rejoining) has never been done before on this sized field so many times, I worry this is a factor that may be overlooked or unappreciated by the company selling the technology.

Testing it at our training ground on a smaller section is one thing but doing it 2-5 times a year on a full sized surface before and after it's been played on and hammered is not the same thing in my opinion.

I really hope they've thought of, considered and found a solution to every single factor in this...
 

ziggy

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I have no problem or concerns with the technology as I'm sure the turf will be seamlessly laid and put in place looking at how the designed it and had been tested, however, I do have serious concerns about the quality of the turf after constant movements to accommodate other playing and entertaining venues.

Normally turf sits and stays in one place once it's been laid and fitted together, but this turf will be constantly broken apart many times a season. That to me is very worrying and surely can't be good for the turf.

I suspect that the constant separating of the turf will eventually lead to surface problems and cutting up.
I really hope I'm wrong but since this (constant separating and rejoining) has never been done before on this sized field so many times, I worry this is a factor that may be overlooked or unappreciated by the company selling the technology.

Testing it at our training ground on a smaller section is one thing but doing it 15-20 times a year on a full sized surface before and after it's been played on and hammered is not the same thing in my opinion.

I really hope they've thought of, considered and found a solution to every single factor in this...


Good point, I was more worried about something going wrong with the technology but I'm assuming this has all been thoroughly thought through or we wouldn't be doing it..........................would we ?
 

whitesocks

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The whole point is that the pitch will be rolled off for everything apart from football matches.
I imagine the NFL players quickly shredding anything than can rolled out like carpet.
And they'd surely want a bit of give in the surface.
The better artificial pitches today have tons of granules on them - then there is drainage and heating - they are very permanent. So I would expect the artificial surface just to be covered for concerts.

Then again, how on earth are these rails going to be exposed and seamlessly covered up again?
I'm thinking going from a football surface to an NFL one would take days to level it all out, but we are told hours.
It must be a carpet...
 

Speedy

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Rolling up turf is nothing new at all. Many clubs do it in close season and spurs do it occasionally depending on weather
 

Lilbaz

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I have no problem or concerns with the technology as I'm sure the turf will be seamlessly laid and put in place looking at how the designed it and had been tested, however, I do have serious concerns about the quality of the turf after constant movements to accommodate other playing and entertaining venues.

Normally turf sits and stays in one place once it's been laid and fitted together, but this turf will be constantly broken apart many times a season. That to me is very worrying and surely can't be good for the turf.

I suspect that the constant separating of the turf will eventually lead to surface problems and cutting up.
I really hope I'm wrong but since this (constant separating and rejoining) has never been done before on this sized field so many times, I worry this is a factor that may be overlooked or unappreciated by the company selling the technology.

Testing it at our training ground on a smaller section is one thing but doing it 2-5 times a year on a full sized surface before and after it's been played on and hammered is not the same thing in my opinion.

I really hope they've thought of, considered and found a solution to every single factor in this...

Mud has a great quality. If you cut it in half you can then wet it and it will stick back together again. You don't even notice that it was ever cut in the first place.
 

dricha1

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I just wonder how the players will get on playing on what effectively is a suspended surface, I know it's grass, but will the bounce be affected, the touch line also suspended....do think it'll have an unnatural feel
 

Lilbaz

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I just wonder how the players will get on playing on what effectively is a suspended surface, I know it's grass, but will the bounce be affected, the touch line also suspended....do think it'll have an unnatural feel

As long as we get used to it and other teams don't i don't care.
Should be alright though.
 
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