New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Ron Burgundy]

If it does end up being next season i just don't know how the club and mace can get it so wrong. How could they think the opening date would be September when it would actually be almost a year longer, it doesn't make sense.

Agreed. Totally laughable if it were the case.

I just can’t see it personally. It wouldn’t make any sense to get it THAT wrong. Think of the lost money re: hiring Wembley etc and all the marketing about the new stadium

 

[cliff jones]

what the hell is internal gossip anyway, and if it was wrong before it's probably wrong again

 

[piedpiper]

IF.. They believe that its next season, which i doubt... Why would they have only comitted to the remainder of the games this year being at Wembley..

DL wouldn't have wasted time on a interim statement. They said expect an update in early December... So let's wait on that.

 

[worcestersauce]

It's not just cables. Every device has to be addressed correctly and tested. Every smoke head, heat detector, break glass unit, door controller, shutter, suppression systems, vesda units, sprinkler systems etc...
This is massively difficult to do on a building site with all the dust in the air.

And you think it will take the best part of a year do you?

 

[Lilbaz]

And you think it will take the best part of a year do you?

I don't know. How long did it take to go up and test in the first place? How long to take down, then redo, then test again, all the while other jobs are going on.
I have no idea how long it would take. Do you?

 

[spids]

The season is over in 6 months not a year.

UPDATED for those who think this is a 'creative' or 'WTF' claim ...

1 month (from today) = 3rd December
2 months = 3rd Jan
3 months = 3rd Feb
4 months = 3rd March
5 months = 3rd April
6 months = 3rd May
Our last fixture is scheduled for 12th May. So 6 months plus 9 days. Not a year.

 

[worcestersauce]

I don't know. How long did it take to go up and test in the first place? How long to take down, then redo, then test again, all the while other jobs are going on.
I have no idea how long it would take. Do you?

No but I am not aware that they have replaced all the things you listed, to my knowledge they didn't place emergency adverts for trades to deal with all those things so I am running with them leaving the factory in working condition and being in situ and so just need retesting when what does need replacing is replaced. As for those things that needed replacing, I believe they have been working on them since the problem was discovered.
Call me optimistic if you like but I choose to believe the announcement that there is a problem that is serious and needs rectifying before we can play there as opposed to jumping to the conclusion that the whole bloody thing is utterly fucked up.

 

[worcestersauce]

The season is over in 6 months not a year.

Nine months. (best part of a year)

 

[topper]

No disrespect to Edmonton but he’s barely got one thing right on the stadium so far. No idea where the concept of him being reliable comes from.

He’s been more reliable than anyone on any forum so no idea about your no idea

 

[Lilbaz]

No but I am not aware that they have replaced all the things you listed, to my knowledge they didn't place emergency adverts for trades to deal with all those things so I am running with them leaving the factory in working condition and being in situ and so just need retesting when what does need replacing is replaced. As for those things that needed replacing, I believe they have been working on them since the problem was discovered.
Call me optimistic if you like but I choose to believe the announcement that there is a problem that is serious and needs rectifying before we can play there as opposed to jumping to the conclusion that the whole bloody thing is utterly fucked up.

They don't have to replace all those things but they do have to address them. Otherwise a smoke head goes off they wont have a clue where in the building it is. They also have to test them to make sure every single one is working.

 

[worcestersauce]

They don't have to replace all those things but they do have to address them. Otherwise a smoke head goes off they wont have a clue where in the building it is. They also have to test them to make sure every single one is working.

And does that take six months? I'm dubious.

 

[kmk]

Marking the penalty box and halfway lines.

 

[spursfan77]

It might end up being next season because our Wembley deal ends in January and the PL want us to commit to staying there if we can’t fulfill the first league fixture of 2019 in the new stadium. I can’t see it being anything else.

 

[Wsussexspur]

It might end up being next season because our Wembley deal ends in January and the PL want us to commit to staying there if we can’t fulfill the first league fixture of 2019 in the new stadium. I can’t see it being anything else.

Must say from my uneducated point of view when it comes to the issues the stadium is having I’m hedging my bets that it won’t be ready for the Man Utd game. Given the club said they were going to give another update in early December I struggle to see how we are going to fit the required test events in given it’s the festive season and we pretty much lose a week to Christmas / new year surely it will be a tight squeeze to get the events in before the Man Utd game.

Also one thing I just thought again could just be usual rubbish roumors which I’m happy to be corrected on but arent the club required to give the council/police certain amount of notice before hosting the test events. Can’t see either of them being too happy to have the events on in December.

 

[spids]

Nine months. (best part of a year)

Sorry but I’m not sure you can count. It’s currently November and the season finishes in May - that is not ‘the best part of a year’ . It’s mucj closer to the best part of half a year. I’m only saying this as quoting a year (in terms of us not playing in our new stadium this season) is incredibly inaccurate. I personally don’t have an opinion on when the stadium will be ready as (a) I don’t know what the problems really are, and (b) I am not an expert on large scale building projects and safety standards.

 

[piedpiper]

Marking the penalty box and halfway lines.

Another clue that it won't be next season. why do markings 9 months ahead of next seasons friendlies.

 

[Lilbaz]

And does that take six months? I'm dubious.

Remember the original contractors would have planned this with the architects. If a new company has come in to redo it all. They will have to make sense of it all then tear it down then redo it. You are talking thousands of devices and probably about 15-20 panels. All have to be able to communicate with each other and be accurate. The wiring is only part it is the programming and testing which is a major pain.

How long that would take on a job this size i have no idea. But as has already been shown berlin airport has taken years.

 

[worcestersauce]

Sorry but I’m not sure you can count. It’s currently November and the season finishes in May - that is not ‘the best part of a year’ . It’s mucj closer to the best part of half a year. I’m only saying this as quoting a year (in terms of us not playing in our new stadium this season) is incredibly inaccurate. I personally don’t have an opinion on when the stadium will be ready as (a) I don’t know what the problems really are, and (b) I am not an expert on large scale building projects and safety standards.

Ah yes but this all started in August.

 

[worcestersauce]

Remember the original contractors would have planned this with the architects. If a new company has come in to redo it all. They will have to make sense of it all then tear it down then redo it. You are talking thousands of devices and probably about 15-20 panels. All have to be able to communicate with each other and be accurate. The wiring is only part it is the programming and testing which is a major pain.

How long that would take on a job this size i have no idea. But as has already been shown berlin airport has taken years.

Will they have to tear it all down though? That's my point really, I don't see why they would have to, presumably the thousands of devices and panels don't require changing and are in situ. The problem as I understand it is restricted to the fire safety system whereas the Berlin airport isn't restricted to just, or maybe not at all, the fire safety systems, we know the electrical system in the ground is ok as they've been testing it over the last few weeks, same goes for the franchise equipment and presumably the payment systems in the stadium mirror the systems in the club shop so there's no reason to assume they aren't ok.
All of which leads me to be optimistic, clearly it doesn't convince you so we probably aren't going to agree.

 

[coys200]

He’s been more reliable than anyone on any forum so no idea about your no idea

Really he said would be ready for Liverpool but builders would be working on morning of game. Also said pitch was at training ground when it was actually delivered from Holland. Actually struggling to find one thing he has said about the stadium that’s correct.