New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Dougal]

Would be of absolutely no benefit playing any gam e on the new stadium this season, club should just announce that we will move in the summer.

If we can play a few games this season and iron out any remaining problems or unexpected developments in time for the new season then maybe we could have a whole season of relative* normality for once and put aside all this upheaval.

*Relative in respect to being a Spurs season and therefore open to more twists and turns than 20 seasons of Harchester United

 

[Hoopspur]

So this latest announcement leaves us with 5 potential games at the new stadium, none of which are against another of the "big six" teams. 2 category C games in Brighton and Huddersfield, 2 category B games in Palace and Everton & the most questionable category A game, West Ham.

The thing about the delays and refunds that particularly galls me is the club refunding 1/19th, regardless of the stature of game. I'll be honest, when I bought my season ticket, I didn't excitedly look at the fixture list to see when we'd face Huddersfield, I was looking for Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd, Liverpool and City. The fixtures are not all created equal, which they are happy to recognise when it comes to charging for individual tickets.

Assuming Palace is made the first game in the new stadium, and despite the fact that these remaining fixtures don't even contain a single "big match" against a top 6 competitor, I highly doubt the club are going to be refunding the difference between 1/19 of a season ticket and the appropriate category cost of the individual ticket. Paying £51 (1/19th of my season ticket cost) a game for those remaining 5 fixtures is a piss-take if you ask me.

Luckily there is a resell platform so you will be able to sell your ticket for those 'crap games' at the new ground - so you'll be ok I'm sure there will be plenty prepared to take it up, especially to see us win the league!

Meanwhile you can buy tickets at the second round of allocations at Wembley, and not buy the same seat as last year, as I do, for less. I have actually been paying £32 or £35 recently for my games that are C category so am in credit for those. And as an example I sat in the front row of the upper tier for United for £52 and actually quite enjoyed the new perspective if not the result, so I paid about the same. Swings and roundabouts. If we do stay at Wembley for the season then I don't think I will have actually paid more than last season tbh.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Are we not better waiting till the new season? It'll be a complete damp squib having our first game there this season now, surely we are better off focusing on momentum for the beginning of next season.....

Agree - hold off now until August, but maybe have big pre-season game against Barca, Real or someone of similar stature.

Would be of absolutely no benefit playing any gam e on the new stadium this season, club should just announce that we will move in the summer.

I've dealt with this point three times in detail in the last few pages, so I won't list the factors again, but the overall reason the club is very unlikely to do this is because every match we hold at Wembley loses them a prodigious amount of money. Millions, all told. That's why they are so insistent that we must move to NWHL as soon as it is legal to do so.

 

[mil1lion]

The delays are not their fault. But the communication shambles is entirely their fault. They were so shook by the initial delays that they've gone into a kind of defensiveness, where less information is best. It's just infuriating everyone.

So they're supposed to share more information even if they haven't got it? They can only share what they know surely.

 

[danielneeds]

I've dealt with this point three times in detail in the last few pages, so I won't list the factors again, but the overall reason the club is very unlikely to do this is because every match we hold at Wembley loses them a prodigious amount of money. Millions, all told. That' why they are so insistent that we must move to NWHL as soon as it is legal to do so.

This, plus opening the stadium, and getting prospective naming rights top brass in there to experience it, give us a better chance to get something sorted before next season.

 

[Donki]

Any reason why you believe there would be no benefit?

The negative media impact regarding the unfairness of it all, the costant changes in dates etc the whole thing has been a mess. Imo play out the season at Wembley and let the dust settle over the summer and a fresh start and a new season.

No benefit?!

What benefit would there be to play at Wembley then?

There would be no media shit storm or negativity, if we are still 4-5 points off the pace a change in stadium IMO would only put more pressure on.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Yes, they familiar in hating playing there, as Rose said. There's not doubt that the squad will get a massive psychological lift from going home.

As will whichever teams come and play there, with the possibility of fucking up both our big homecoming and title chances.
The aura playing at Wembley is long gone, as much for our opponents as our own team. It's not the big day out anymore.

 

[danielneeds]

So they're supposed to share more information even if they haven't got it? They can only share what they know surely.

They have been hiding information ever since September, of that there's no doubt. The likes of us on here, who follow the stadium carefully can still put it together, but the average fan has really had no clue what's going on, hence the anger.

 

[Timberwolf]

New stadium, new environment, potential for absolute disaster of a run-in...
At least the players are familiar with everything about Wembley.

Pretty sure someone has done research that shows teams tend to get an initial boost in results when they move into a new stadium.

EDIT: Just had a look and I'm talking bollocks. In recent English football history most teams take a small dip in form. I suppose the fact that we're moving from Wembley which isn't our real home might affect matters though.

 

[Donki]

I've dealt with this point three times in detail in the last few pages, so I won't list the factors again, but the overall reason the club is very unlikely to do this is because every match we hold at Wembley loses them a prodigious amount of money. Millions, all told. That's why they are so insistent that we must move to NWHL as soon as it is legal to do so.

I understand the financial side, but I don’t see the benefit in footballing terms.

 

[danielneeds]

As will whichever teams come and play there, with the possibility of fucking up both our big homecoming and title chances.
The aura playing at Wembley is long gone, as much for our opponents as our own team. It's not the big day out anymore.

No, I don't believe it's a big deal for opposition teams, maybe Arsenal or Chelsea would love to win their first game there, but the rest won't give a toss. If the atmosphere is anything like it should be, it will just be intimidating.

 

[worcestersauce]

Interesting that they have only confirmed one game, the Arsenal game, at Wembley
To those that are wetting their knickers over the testing that still needs to be done, we have had the information that we are testing as we go along so we haven't still got the whole catalogue of tests to carry out.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I mean i'm pretty annoyed about the situation and stuff but are the club really benefiting from a loan?

42k season tickets holders at even £2k average is an £84k loan. What are we doing? Subsidising Sissokos wages for a week or helping install a few toilets at the stadium?

Maths not your strong point L-man is it?

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I dont get this whole familiar stuff. It's a football stadium not a rocket ship. Our opponents will be new there too but we'll be the ones with the fans behind us (much more so than at Wembley). I can't see anything but a massive lift for the players when we move in.

Pretty sure I've seen an interview with Jan or someone who said that players become accustomed to a lot of things in a stadium on match day. They know the regular faces, the advertising hoardings etc. all of which, in the blink of an eye, enable a player to know where exactly they are on the pitch, position to goal etc. which is why they often don't even look at the goal.

 

[wizgell]

Maths not your strong point L-man is it?

Mate if I got a ST at £2 a pop I'd be delighted

 

[danielneeds]

Pretty sure someone has done research that shows teams tend to get an initial boost in results when they move into a new stadium.

The studies usually say there is settling in period, but they don't really don't relate to our move. There's a huge difference from a team going from a much-loved fortress like Upton Park, Highbury, or the Calderon, into a shiny new stadium. We've already had to adjust from the loss of WHL, and will be going from a shiny, soulless bowl into something wonderful.

 

[L-man]

Maths not your strong point L-man is it?

Haha fair play, I've had a proper mare there

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Pretty sure someone has done research that shows teams tend to get an initial boost in results when they move into a new stadium.

EDIT: Just had a look and I'm talking bollocks. In recent English football history most teams take a small dip in form. I suppose the fact that we're moving from Wembley which isn't our real home might affect matters though.

Arsenal went 6 months unbeaten when they moved to the Emirates, but first two results were draws against Villa & Middlesbrough.
Can we afford to risk that sort of bedding in with only 5 home games??

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Haha fair play, I've had a proper mare there

Haha, Do not whatever you do go on Dragons Den until you've looked at your numbers again!!

 

[Timberwolf]

Arsenal went 6 months unbeaten when they moved to the Emirates, but first two results were draws against Villa & Middlesbrough.
Can we afford to risk that sort of bedding in with only 5 home games??

You might be right but there's no way Levy is going to pay millions of pounds and submit himself to more negative press based on the mere possibility that our results won't be quite as good.