New Stadium Details And Discussions

[we_all_loved_freund]

Does anybody know how high off the track the first row of seats currently are?

I wouldn't imagine they would be very high which would mean the retractable seats would have a view akin to that of chairs on a sports hall floor?

 

[worcestersauce]

Does anybody know how high off the track the first row of seats currently are?

I wouldn't imagine they would be very high which would mean the retractable seats would have a view akin to that of chairs on a sports hall floor?

I'm sure we touched on this when it was first mooted and to have seats on the track that would have a line of sight over the row in front the permanent seating front row would need to be as high as at least a two story building which would mean those further back would not be able to see some lanes of the track below them plus the storage space required underneath would be huge if they were to slide under.

 

[we_all_loved_freund]

I'm sure we touched on this when it was first mooted and to have seats on the track that would have a line of sight over the row in front the permanent seating front row would need to be as high as at least a two story building which would mean those further back would not be able to see some lanes of the track below them plus the storage space required underneath would be huge if they were to slide under.

I just don't see how it could be done, though I'm not an architect.

Perhaps it will be just some sort of collapsable ramp with chairs that are manually fixed to it when it is rolled out. Whatever they come up with, I can't see it being an elegant solution.

 

[SpurSince57]

According to trusty Wikipedia (which I see no reason not to trust on this), the retractable seats at the Stade de France: 'may fall 15 feet to reveal all of the running track and jumping pits. It then retains 22 000 seats. The movement lasts 80 hours, 40 people 20h/24h mobilized, and carried by ten distinct elements of 700 tons each.'

And it still looks crap for football to me.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=353570

 

[tobi]

Paul Kelso on Twitter this morning says that were de-listing from AIM (?) because it'll help us to borrow money for the stadium. He was quoting Levy.

The club announced big profits (£160m+) etc and operating costs went up due to squad and wages.

 

[Stoof]

Paul Kelso on Twitter this morning says that were de-listing from AIM (?) because it'll help us to borrow money for the stadium. He was quoting Levy.

The club announced big profits (£160m+) etc and operating costs went up due to squad and wages.

De-listing eh?

WHO WILL I FOLLOW ON MY STOCKS APP NOW! GRRRRRR.

What is your question mark for, Mr tobi?

 

[tobi]

I thought the stock exchange was known as something else.

I also mixed some things up, the revenue went up a lot not the profits.

I'm going through the pdf now.

 

[worcestersauce]

De-listing eh?

WHO WILL I FOLLOW ON MY STOCKS APP NOW! GRRRRRR.

What is your question mark for, Mr tobi?

What is AIM?

 

[FITZ]

What is AIM?

Ask Pav?



(Alternative Investment Market)

 

[JimmyG2]

AIM is the London Stock Exchange’s international market for smaller growing companies. A wide range of businesses including early stage, venture capital backed as well as more established companies join AIM seeking access to growth capital.

From the Stock Echange site.

 

[t79boy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15751988

 

[L-man]

The telephone records of West Ham vice-chairman Karren Brady were "unlawfully obtained by subterfuge" - and copies found their way into the hands of accountants "engaged" by Tottenham, a High Court judge said on Thursday.

Mr Justice Coulson said telephone records belonging to Bradywere obtained at the height of a dispute over the future use of the 2012 Olympic Stadium.
And he said copies had found their way to a firm of accountants - PKF - engaged by Tottenham.

Allegations

The White Hart Lane club are facing allegations of spying on the Hammers chief during the bidding process for the Stratford stadium.

The judge outlined "basic facts" at a hearing in London after Brady began legal action in an attempt to "obtain information" and the "wrongdoers responsible".

"At the height of the dispute about the use of the Olympic Stadium, Ms Brady's telephone records were unlawfully obtained by subterfuge," said Mr Justice Coulson.

"PKF was engaged by Tottenham Hotspur to carry out an investigation that was in some way connected with the Olympic Stadium.

"PKF have, in the last few days, said they do have copies of the wrongfully obtained telephone records."

The judge was told that Tottenham had been given copies of the records by PKF. But lawyers for Tottenham said no one at the club had the records prior to the start of legal proceedings.

Tottenham also released a statement earlier this month hitting back at allegations they ordered surveillance of all 14 members of the Olympic Park Legacy Company (OPLC) board during their unsuccessful battle for the stadium.

Mr Justice Coulson is due to hear more details about the Brady case at a further High Court hearing in London next Wednesday.

Hearing

Lawyers for PKF argued that Thursday's hearing should have been held in private to prevent the "risk of misreporting".

But the judge said the hearing would be in public.

He said hearings could be held in private in "wholly exceptional" circumstances and the arguments put forward by PKF came "nowhere near" the necessary test.


This isn't looking very good

 

[MattyP]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/17/spurs-karren-brady-unlawful-phone-records?newsfeed=true

"Unlawfully obtained" phone records belonging to West Ham United's vice-chairman, Karren Brady, found their way into the hands of investigators retained by Tottenham Hotspur at the height of their bitter Olympic stadium battle, a high court judge said on Thursday.


At the start of a civil case that could lay bare the depth of the enmity behind the two rival bids for the Olympic Stadium, it was claimed that the accountants retained by Spurs had passed those records to a Sunday newspaper.

The case has been brought by Brady and West Ham to force the accountants PKF and its partner Howard Hill to reveal information. Mr Justice Coulson said it was not disputed by either side that the Vodafone phone records had been "unlawfully obtained by subterfuge".
"At the height of the dispute about the use of the Olympic Stadium Ms Brady's telephone records were unlawfully obtained by subterfuge," said Coulson. "PKF was engaged by Tottenham Hotspur to carry out an investigation that was in some way connected with the Olympic Stadium. PKF have, in the last few days, said they do have copies of the wrongfully obtained telephone records."

PKF and Hill deny being "engaged in any unlawful activity" to obtain the phone records or employing any third parties to do so. Lawyers for Brady claimed that on the eve of the hearing PKF had admitted that Hill and two of his colleagues had passed the mobile phone records to the Sunday Times, which used them as part of the basis for an article in June alleging dirty tricks in the bidding process for the £496m Olympic stadium.

Lawyers for PKF said the firm had at no point employed a third party to obtain the phone records illegally and said they had not been passed to Spurs until the start of the legal proceedings. The club said: "Tottenham Hotspur did not instruct PKF to engage in any unlawful activity and PKF have confirmed that they did not."

It was made clear in court that the proceedings related only to the so-called "blagging" of phone records and not to wider claims of surveillance and phone tapping that have been made by Brady and the Olympic Park Legacy Company and rejected by Spurs and PKF. West Ham's counsel, Ben Jaffey, said that, in a series of letters in July and August, West Ham wrote to Spurs and PKF in an attempt to ascertain whether they were in possession of Brady's phone records. Coulson said the East End club, who will bid again for the Olympic Stadium next month after their original deal fell apart under the weight of legal challenges from Spurs and others, had been given the "traditional runaround" in being passed from one to the other. "It would take a train load of advocates to convince me that Tottenham Hotspur or PKF were in any way co-operative," said Coulson.

Brady and West Ham this year said they were going to court "to obtain full information and documents relating to the unlawful obtaining of Karren Brady's mobile telephone records and to obtain information identifying the wrongdoers responsible for unlawfully obtaining such records".

Coulson rejected an attempt by PKF to have the proceedings heard in private in order to prevent misreporting and avoid unfair slurs on the reputation of Hill and the firm.

He said hearings could be held in private in "wholly exceptional" circumstances and the arguments put forward by PKF came "nowhere near" the necessary test.

The hearing will resume on Wednesday, with Tottenham granted more time to prepare evidence that its lawyers claim will refute allegations made by Brady in her witness statement.

Spurs, who maintained that retaining the running track in the stadium was not commercially viable, have now given up on moving into the Olympic Stadium and this week announced plans to delist from the stock market to boost fund-raising plans for a new ground in Tottenham.

 

[SpurSince57]

Lawyers for PKF argued that Thursday's hearing should have been held in private to prevent the "risk of misreporting".

But the judge said the hearing would be in public.

He said hearings could be held in private in "wholly exceptional" circumstances and the arguments put forward by PKF came "nowhere near" the necessary test.


This isn't looking very good

Well, there goes the moral high ground.

 

[spud]

Well, there goes the moral high ground.

I don't see why.

 

[FITZ]

It will be pfk in the shit - they should have disclosed that they had received the information when they obtained it. Spurs will say that they didn't instruct pkf to do anything illegal.

 

[SpurSince57]

I don't see why.

Really?

The Dear Leader will, of course, protest that it's not his fault if PKF went way beyond anything he asked them to do, and it will almost certainly be impossible to prove he isn't telling the truth (unless he's been careless enough to leave a smoking gun in PKF's possession). However, as he's been caught telling porkies before, the suspicion that he's telling them again will remain.

Shit sticks.

 

[worcestersauce]

Really?

The Dear Leader will, of course, protest that it's not his fault if PKF went way beyond anything he asked them to do, and it will almost certainly be impossible to prove he isn't telling the truth (unless he's been careless enough to leave a smoking gun in PKF's possession). However, as he's been caught telling porkies before, the suspicion that he's telling them again will remain.

Shit sticks.

"Tottenham Hotspur did not instruct PKF to engage in any unlawful activity and PKF have confirmed that they did not."


Lawyers for PKF said the firm had at no point employed a third party to obtain the phone records illegally and said they had not been passed to Spurs until the start of the legal proceedings.

In view of these statements the burden of proof is all on Brady.

Personally the idea that Daniel Levy would instruct anybody to do something illegal so openly is ridiculous, whatever people might think about him he is not stupid, if he'd done anything unlawful we wouldn't know about it.

Sticking shit is what this is about, the whole West Ham bid has become farcical, those behind it and those that went for it have been left with egg on their face (to say the least) and this is a diversion.

 

[SpurSince57]

"Tottenham Hotspur did not instruct PKF to engage in any unlawful activity and PKF have confirmed that they did not."


Lawyers for PKF said the firm had at no point employed a third party to obtain the phone records illegally and said they had not been passed to Spurs until the start of the legal proceedings.

In view of these statements the burden of proof is all on Brady.

Personally the idea that Daniel Levy would instruct anybody to do something illegal so openly is ridiculous, whatever people might think about him he is not stupid, if he'd done anything unlawful we wouldn't know about it.

Sticking shit is what this is about, the whole West Ham bid has become farcical, those behind it and those that went for it have been left with egg on their face (to say the least) and this is a diversion.

Well, they would say that, wouldn't they?

Nevertheless, there is no dispute that the phone records were obtained illegally, that they somehow found their way into PKF's possession, and that PKF passed them on to Spurs. That alone will take some explaining away.

 

[JimmyG2]

Receiving stolen goods is an offence isn't it?

PFK were working for us and came into possession of material obtained by devious, if not illegal means.
Of course there is no email from Levy saying
'Get some info on Brady by whatever means.'
or 'Have a poke about in her phone records and see if ther's any shit in there we can use.'

We will probably adopt the Murdoch defence.
'It wasn't me; I didn't know; and if I did I've forgotten.
Sorry what was the question?'