New Stadium Details And Discussions

[markiespurs]

So who are the 'Our Tottenham group' and do they carry any weight? Sorry if this is old.

Levy should just tell the 'Our Tottenham group' to fuck off and be grateful that the club didn't decide to move out of the area in the first place.

Whether the 'Our Tottenham group' like it or not, the area is a shit hole and the only way the area is going to get the major money it needs to regenerate is by working with Spurs.

Someone should also point out to the 'Our Tottenham group' how much money would be generated over the years by Spurs having a 60k stadium.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

So who are the 'Our Tottenham group' and do they carry any weight? Sorry if this is old.

WTF?? How on earth is it our clubs responsibility to revitalise the local area? And how the heck is the Northumberland Development Project having a "negative" effect on the community?

Seriously, who are these people? I grew up in Seven Sisters & it was an absolute shit-hole, as was Tottenham and most surrounding areas. Yet if it wasn't for the thousands of extra people being brought through the community every other weekend, the whole place would be DEAD..

Maybe I've completely misread the whole thing? But if I was Levy/ENIC/The Council, I'd tell this 'Our Tottenham Group' to fuck right off. This has actually got me absolutely fuming .. Just who exactly do these people think is going to benefit when the whole project is complete? Who is going to get more work when this project is complete? AAAAARRRGGHH

 

[L.A. Yiddo]

Here are the spaccas:-

http://ourtottenham.wordpress.com/

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Here are the spaccas:-

http://ourtottenham.wordpress.com/

Never wanted to 'dislike' a post so much in my life, mate. Though obviously not because of your own opinion. I'm seriously fucking angry about this, look at them in the picture FFS, a bunch of moaning old ****s and interfering football hating fuckwits

 

[JerryGarcia]

I know Coops, reading it struck a nerve with me too but I thought I might have missed something (seeing as how this is so ridiculous) so wanted to hear more opinions. Looks like no one else has heard of this group either though so I'm thinking they're not even legit.

http://www.haringeyindependent.co.uk/news/10414262.Community_groups_launch_Our_Tottenham_Charter/

I found a little bit of info about them here but they seem to have only formed a few months ago. I don't know where they were during the early stages of planning for example.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Here are the spaccas:-

http://ourtottenham.wordpress.com/

Nice one, missed that in my search

Do they think the Government would be putting £500m into the area if Daniel Levy hadn't got this whole thing moving?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I know Coops, reading it struck a nerve with me too but I thought I might have missed something (seeing as how this is so ridiculous) so wanted to hear more opinions. Looks like no one else has heard of this group either though so I'm thinking they're not even legit.



I found a little bit of info about them here but they seem to have only formed a few months ago. I don't know where they were during the early stages of planning for example.

Thanks Jerry. Just what exactly are these idiots hoping to achieve? Do they seriously not realise how bad the whole area would be if it wasn't for our club? Do they not realise that our club puts more money back into the community, especially charities, than any other club in the PL (though I think City may have recently surpassed us, though that's not exactly their money)?.. After seeing the info you discovered, I fail to see how these chancers could hold any weight whatsoever? The bloody planning process has had full public consultations since the project became common knowledge. As you say, they were nowhere to be seen!!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I know Coops, reading it struck a nerve with me too but I thought I might have missed something (seeing as how this is so ridiculous) so wanted to hear more opinions. Looks like no one else has heard of this group either though so I'm thinking they're not even legit.



I found a little bit of info about them here but they seem to have only formed a few months ago. I don't know where they were during the early stages of planning for example.

Just had another read of that article and the very first sentence under the picture has hit yet another nerve..

"Grassroots campaigners have today launched a charter calling for community-led regeneration."

So get out there & raise some fucking money then!!

 

[JerryGarcia]

Maybe by community they mean THFC? I don't know, maybe it's just the wording in the article but I can't see the club reacting well to these demands.

 

[matthew.absurdum]

// “Spurs always say they want to go one better than Arsenal, so we expect them to put more money into the area than Arsenal did since they built their new stadium.” ///
If we give £100million into the area, then we will be go one better than Arsenal?

 

[Flynn]

Just had another read of that article and the very first sentence under the picture has hit yet another nerve..

"Grassroots campaigners have today launched a charter calling for community-led regeneration."

So get out there & raise some fucking money then!!

The problem with socialism is that the fuckers always run out of other peoples money.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Maybe by community they mean THFC? I don't know, maybe it's just the wording in the article but I can't see the club reacting well to these demands.

Nah mate, sentences like "we expect Tottenham to put more money into the community than Arseanal did", can't mean anything other than exactly that. And the "NDP is having a "negative" effect on the community" is exactly the same.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Very true, I'm trying to see it from their point of view but I'm at a loss. There might be some negative impact on some people due to the project but the overall benefits will be massive for the area. As I don't live there, I don't want to speak for anyone who does. It just seems they're trying to be pains in the arse at the last moment in order to cause disruption.

 

[Wine Gum]

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Very true, I'm trying to see it from their point of view but I'm at a loss. There might be some negative impact on some people due to the project but the overall benefits will be massive for the area. As I don't live there, I don't want to speak for anyone who does. It just seems they're trying to be pains in the arse at the last moment in order to cause disruption.

The ONLY negative impact will be whilst construction is ongoing, but even that will bring the extra income that the hundreds of construction workers etc would bring to the community via eating in cafe's, drinking in pubs on an evening etc etc. Then, once construction is finished, the whole area will be indistinguishable from what it is now.

 

[worcestersauce]

Simple fact is that the club were about to pull the plug a few years ago and move away for a new stadium, hence the Olympic bid which was really when the borough really realized they needed us more than we needed them.
I suspect this is a group of malcontents that the club PR thought it would be a good idea to meet.
Look forward to a response charting all the good works the club do locally through the foundation and the like.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

Two-way traffic again on Tottenham High Road after many years of the one-way system.

 

[Skye Sauces]

I'm just as irritated by this group. Love Lane was a hole when I first went 41 years ago .... and it's still a hole now. Nothings changed.

We can all do without these Luddites. They have an opportunity to really improve the area I'd be happy to see the entire love Lane area bulldozered - I grew up in a place like that.

 

[shelfmonkey]

Here are the spaccas:-

http://ourtottenham.wordpress.com/

Yep!! Definitely gooners!!!!

 

[SpurSince57]

So who are the 'Our Tottenham group' and do they carry any weight? Sorry if this is old.

It's a community action group comprised of people who are pissed off with the council (and if you lived in Haringey, you would be too). I support some of the campaigns, like the Ward's Corner one down at Seven Sisters, and to a degree they've got a point here because Spurs have got away incredibly lightly compared to Arsenal: Levy's grandstanding over the Olympic Stadium (and, frankly, lying through his teeth about public finance for the Immigrants) led to our S.106 payments being cancelled, and a huge chunk of regeneration money after the riots coming Spurs' way. That said, they are seriously over-egging the pudding here: the only housing that is to be demolished—as far as I'm aware—is the block of flats on Love Lane, an incredibly ugly shitheap that belongs in Kaliningrad. I've noticed little stickers on buildings and lamp-posts claiming over 400 dwellings are to go, but this strikes me as scaremongering bullshit; it would mean the demolition of the three tower blocks between WHL station and the High Road, and I certainly haven't heard of that happening.* The residents of the Love Lane flats are probably going to be rehoused in new ones on the Cannon/Sainsbury's site, which are going to be a great deal better than the dump they're living in now.

As for businesses being lost, the triumphal walkway looks like it's going to involve the demolition of a couple of buildings at the bottom of Whitehall—one houses, or housed, a Mauritian take-away/'restaurant' that has closed because it was bloody awful (fortunately for me, one of my neighbours tried it out before I did), the other might be a nail parlour, of which there's hardly a shortage in the area.

So, largely bollocks; although I do believe that big companies should bear some responsibility for the area in which they're based, it seems to me that in this instance Our Tottenham is intent on cutting off its nose to spite its face. I don't know anyone in my immediate area who isn't backing the new ground, not least because the value of our houses is going to increase quite substantially.

*The big block of flats on Langhedge Lane, just over the border into Edmonton, is covered in scaffolding and netting and appears to be boarded up. I don't know if this is a major refurbishment or a demolition, or if this block is Haringey or Enfield. There's a massive redevelopment underway in Upper Edmonton at the moment.