New Stadium Details And Discussions

[andyp8080]

I would have thought they'd have tried to keep the away fans as much 'in the corner' as possible and had them spreading up before they spread out. In fact, I don't understand why the smallest allocation has them by the pitch instead of up in the gods. Seems an oversight to me. They should be designing a stadium with the away fans having the least prominent position possible.

I think its so people can wee on them from up above

 

[andyp8080]

its huge!!!!

 

[beats1]

I am impressed the Chelsea are starting at the end of the season when they don't even have planning permission

Don't have planning permission but tbf have submitted their plans to the council to ask if they would want any changes, though the issue will be outside interference

Don't own the stadium

Don't own the properties and would require CPO's on them

Havent completed their detailed design the final stage before building

Haven't gone through the tender process for construction contracts

Theres still more. They won't be as bad as us but their stadium imo as a guestimate will cost about £600m+

 

[andyp8080]

Don't have planning permission but tbf have submitted their plans to the council to ask if they would want any changes, though the issue will be outside interference

Don't own the stadium

Don't own the properties and would require CPO's on them

Havent completed their detailed design the final stage before building

Haven't gone through the tender process for construction contracts

Theres still more. They won't be as bad as us but their stadium imo as a guestimate will cost about £600m+

i'm guessing the finance is not really an issue though?

 

[beats1]

i'm guessing the finance is not really an issue though?

Who is going to pay for it?

Abramovich hasn't really invested much in to the club and the club is in debt of a billion then there is issue of the chelsea pitch association. They wont want to give the stadium for free especially to a club in debt of a billion if anything goes wrong, they lost their home.

They also would want ownership of the club in exchange for the ground.

Then its the process of CPO's if they have to do any. As the homeowners may not exactly be happy at losing their house in the most expensive area in london

Would Abramovich be willing to put down half a billion in costs towards the stadium or would go elsewhere for a loan

 

[worcestersauce]

They can start what they want at the end of the season but I'm pretty sure they won't get far before they have to stop.
Maybe they plan to move out knock it down then fail to get it built and have to stay at Wembley, that'd be interesting.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Two questions.

Have we got permission to knock down those listed buildings English Heritage is kicking off about?

Also, will the kop stand still look as impressive if part of it is cut into by what appears to be the wheelchair section?

 

[dovahkiin]

sort of itk from andymiles0001 on coys, i believe it was established a while ago that he had a mate working on the site:

i was in touch with my mate who runs the piling earlier this week, i might even get to go see the works being done between now and christmas...
the piling for the stadium is underway, the sheet piling is all in for the site and the smaller diameter piles are being done where the pitch is to be, they plan to have a bigger piling rig there in the next week, so three will be running flat out and the piling will be done by christmas, he expects them to be putting down concrete in the basement areas very soon after they finish piling in some areas.

also for the enviromental friendly people, in the pictures there are some silos, my friend said these are the first job they have ever used them on, they are taking all the soil they dig out when piling and from digging out the site and putting it into these silos which sorts the sand and stones(10%, 5% and 2% i think are the types he said) from the dirt and they are re using these for the concrete in the piling, quite a good thing apparently and not many sites use them but will save the club a fair few million as all they will need to bring in is cement and thus less lorries etc

not exactly the best itk but it's all i can get, i plan to take him up on the site visit though as he said i'll be able to visit lilywhite house and see all of that too

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

These new pictures to me really show this to be a unique looking stadium.

Considering the scum had the audacity to claim we have copied them I feel they must be feeling like twats now.
Especially as half those tards don't know they copied benfica.

 

[Ionman34]

Its simply to save weight but whilst it does look impressive, it does have its drawbacks

For example we will have a kop stand that has a shallow rake meaning that it won't be as intimidating as say Dortmunds despite being having more rows

I think it will depend on whether the design of the roof has taken acoustics into the equation.

Whilst you might not have that visual intimidation a steeply raked Kop gives you, if the acoustics are right, it's a wall of sound you get instead. The deeper the stand, the more the noise can be amplified.

Hopefully this has been incorporated. I'd gladly sacrifice a little visual intimidation if it doubles the noise from that end, it's the noise that unsettles players. They don't have to look at the fans, but they sure as Hell can't avoid hearing them.

 

[chrissivad]

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Have we got permission to knock down those listed buildings English Heritage is kicking off about?

This planning applicaion includes the proposal to demolish the listed buildings, so the answer is "no". There also has to be a parallel application for listed building consent [to demolish].

As I wrote many pages ago, I think that issue is likely to cause delay and perhaps a further redesign, as I expect this aspect of the application to be highly controversial.

 

[robin09]

This planning applicaion includes the proposal to demolish the listed buildings, so the answer is "no". There also has to be a parallel application for listed building consent [to demolish].

As I wrote many pages ago, I think that issue is likely to cause delay and perhaps a further redesign, as I expect this aspect of the application to be highly controversial.

When you say a further re-design, I thought I saw mock ups of the stadium build with the houses still there. So isn't it accounted for that they'd not be able to de demolished already, or am I totally confused?

 

[Lilbaz]

This planning applicaion includes the proposal to demolish the listed buildings, so the answer is "no". There also has to be a parallel application for listed building consent [to demolish].

As I wrote many pages ago, I think that issue is likely to cause delay and perhaps a further redesign, as I expect this aspect of the application to be highly controversial.

Does the mayor have the right to over rule eh?

 

[Lilbaz]

It seems that the final decision would be with the communities secretary (was eric pickles). EH could take it to court but they don't have the money so really have to pick their battles. I doubt they would do it for those two buildings when there are so many other developments going up around westminster (a world herritage site) and effecting views of saint pauls.

Think we will win this hands down. The government also came out with new rules to green light new housing builds so can't really see that being held up either.

 

[Wellspurs]

I bet none of English Heritage officials would live in the Tottenham area as it is now?

 

[slartibartfast]

Davidmatzdorf, in your experience how long a delay do you think this may cause?
And when do you realistically see us moving in mate?
I'm beginning to think it may not happen in my lifetime. I'm 44

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Does the mayor have the right to over rule eh?

I don't think the Mayor has the power to overrule a decision to refuse consent to demolish listed buildings, as that would bypass the entire historic-building-protection system. But I can't quote you chapter and verse.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Davidmatzdorf, in your experience how long a delay do you think this may cause?

Impossible to tell. For anyone, not just me. It could be zero, if the argument for losing the three buildings succeeds. It could be 6-12 months for a successful appeal. Or it could be as long as it takes them to re-redesign it to keep (or move) the listed buildings if appeals fail.

 

[worcestersauce]

I think the fact that the club has made the demolition of these old buildings a health and safety matter puts the odds well in our favour,