EighteenEightyTwo
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I thought they were going in the museum? It would be wonderful if they have a practical(ish) use.
New Stadium Details And Discussions
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Wine Gum
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Taken from the Wembley Stadium Planning Application to increase the number of events >51K capacity:
3.0 Proposed Amendments
Condition 3
3.1 The amendment to Condition 3 of Planning Permission 99/2400 will allow
THFC to use the full capacity of Wembley Stadium (increasing available
spectator capacity by c. 39,000 from 51,000 to up to 90,000) for up to 31
additional major events for a temporary period during the 2017-18 football
season (i.e. from 1 August 2017 to 31 July 2018); in addition to the 22-25 full
capacity sporting events currently allowed per season.
3.2 There could be up to 36 THFC home fixtures in the 2017-18 season. In
practice however, and based on recent averages, the total number of THFC
games likely to be hosted at Wembley Stadium is expected to be in the region
of 30. The “temporary cap” figure of 31 allows for the possibility that THFC is
first, very successful in all cup competitions and secondly, drawn at home for
all of its games (with up to 5 games to be accommodated under the existing full
capacity sporting events cap).
3.3 For the avoidance of doubt, because the “temporary cap” relates to THFC
events, in the anticipated situation where fewer home games than the
maximum are drawn, the temporary cap does not allow for additional full
capacity events for other purposes to be hosted by Wembley Stadium.
3.4 It should also be recognised that the Wembley Stadium schedule for the 2017-
18 season allows for up to five THFC events to be hosted within the existing
full capacity event cap (of up to 25 major sporting events and 9 major nonsporting
events), thereby minimising the overall number of additional full
capacity events hosted in the 2017-18 season (while maintaining commercial
and contractual obligations).
3.5 Within the year of the proposed THFC events, Wembley Stadium’s event
schedule is currently expected to contain at least 31 further major events,
comprising:
1 20 sporting events utilising the full capacity of the stadium;
2 At least 2 sporting events with under 51,000 spectators; and
3 9 concerts.
3.6 Given Wembley Stadium is unrestricted in terms of the number of events for up
to c. 51,000 spectators, the application is, in effect, seeking permission for
additional events where up to an additional c. 39,000 spectators are in
attendance; although not all matches are expected to attract a full capacity
crowd.
https://pa.brent.gov.uk/online-appl...ails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=DCAPR_132323
3.0 Proposed Amendments
Condition 3
3.1 The amendment to Condition 3 of Planning Permission 99/2400 will allow
THFC to use the full capacity of Wembley Stadium (increasing available
spectator capacity by c. 39,000 from 51,000 to up to 90,000) for up to 31
additional major events for a temporary period during the 2017-18 football
season (i.e. from 1 August 2017 to 31 July 2018); in addition to the 22-25 full
capacity sporting events currently allowed per season.
3.2 There could be up to 36 THFC home fixtures in the 2017-18 season. In
practice however, and based on recent averages, the total number of THFC
games likely to be hosted at Wembley Stadium is expected to be in the region
of 30. The “temporary cap” figure of 31 allows for the possibility that THFC is
first, very successful in all cup competitions and secondly, drawn at home for
all of its games (with up to 5 games to be accommodated under the existing full
capacity sporting events cap).
3.3 For the avoidance of doubt, because the “temporary cap” relates to THFC
events, in the anticipated situation where fewer home games than the
maximum are drawn, the temporary cap does not allow for additional full
capacity events for other purposes to be hosted by Wembley Stadium.
3.4 It should also be recognised that the Wembley Stadium schedule for the 2017-
18 season allows for up to five THFC events to be hosted within the existing
full capacity event cap (of up to 25 major sporting events and 9 major nonsporting
events), thereby minimising the overall number of additional full
capacity events hosted in the 2017-18 season (while maintaining commercial
and contractual obligations).
3.5 Within the year of the proposed THFC events, Wembley Stadium’s event
schedule is currently expected to contain at least 31 further major events,
comprising:
1 20 sporting events utilising the full capacity of the stadium;
2 At least 2 sporting events with under 51,000 spectators; and
3 9 concerts.
3.6 Given Wembley Stadium is unrestricted in terms of the number of events for up
to c. 51,000 spectators, the application is, in effect, seeking permission for
additional events where up to an additional c. 39,000 spectators are in
attendance; although not all matches are expected to attract a full capacity
crowd.
https://pa.brent.gov.uk/online-appl...ails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=DCAPR_132323
Wine Gum
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Cannot find the document with the Bill Nick Gates marked but from memory the proposed location is:
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RichieS
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Are we among the bad guys here?
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ts-labour-privatisation-north-london-haringey
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ts-labour-privatisation-north-london-haringey
Wine Gum
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Nope. It has been reported that Lendlease are the favourite to pick up the Development Partner role.
JollyHappy
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So do we think that the Club are waiting for the planning application for increased capacity at Wembley to be decided before they announce the plans for tickets next season?
widmerpool
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You don't really need a pocket Matzdorf to work out what order they'd go on a GANTT chart, do you?
Drink!Drink!
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Some steel sections have arrived...huge excitement over on SSC
dagraham
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I've been following that thread on SSC. There is a fair bit of good info in amongst all the other mundane stuff, but it does make me laugh the excitement and scrutiny a grainy picture of some steel can stir up
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L.A. Yiddo
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Concrete pump.
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Please excuse my ignorance but what is SSC?I've been following that thread on SSC. There is a fair bit of good info in amongst all the other mundane stuff, but it does make me laugh the excitement and scrutiny a grainy picture of some steel can stir up
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Tottenham's new stadium calls for huge scaffold staircase
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/...-for-huge-scaffold-staircase/10017233.article
White Hart Lane’s redevelopment is among London’s biggest construction projects – and includes one of the largest public scaffold staircases ever built in the UK.
Tottenham Hotspur’s new stadium is one of the biggest and most high-profile projects under way in London – and certainly the biggest ongoing stadium project in the country.
Set to have a capacity of 61,000, it will include one of the biggest single-tiered stands in Europe, holding 17,000 fans – bigger than the Kop at Anfield – with an overall project value in the region of £750m.
Mace is main contractor on the site – but as with all mega-projects, Spurs’ new stadium depends on its subcontractors to ensure smooth progress and deliver the specialist works.
One of these subcontractors is GKR Scaffolding, which is providing all the access and scaffolding elements for Mace.
“I don’t think we’re working on any projects as large as this in terms of the site size, but the scaffolding scope is average-to-large,” explains GKR director (and lifelong Tottenham Hotspur supporter) Lee Rowswell.
The main challenge for GKR was obvious, but by no means simple: safely maintain access for thousands of fans on matchdays, both entering at ground level behind the North Stand but also via a staircase into the upper levels of the North Stand itself.
The stadium to replace White Hart Lane is unusual in that Spurs fans are getting a front-row view of construction progress at every home game, with the current stadium operating as usual throughout this season – albeit with one corner missing. “It means the fans get a great view of the progress when they come in – and to be fair to everyone, the site is cleaned up and looks great in time for every game,” Mr Rowswell says.
Fans enter the stadium area’s northern end via two routes, known as the East and West Walkways. These were built using scaffolding constructed by GKR with a raised concrete slab in the middle to provide the deck, and are covered in a glass-reinforced plastic (GRP) overlay to make them non-slip.
The walkways’ hoardings have a loading of 2 kN per sq m for crowds – with the deck built to 5 kN per sq m to allow for construction traffic and other vehicles to move in and out on top of it as well.
The most striking elements of scaffolding that GKR has constructed, however, are two public staircases that provide access for fans to the North and East stands.
In particular, the North Stand staircase is, GKR believes, the largest public Layher scaffolding staircase ever to be installed in the UK – and probably the largest in Europe.
With thousands of fans using the staircases on every matchday, safety and reliability were of paramount concern, all while minimising the footprint of the structure. The two Layher towers erected by GKR achieved this, with a permanent live load of 5 kN per sq m at every platform level, and loading on the handrails of 2 or 3 kN per sq m depending on people flow.
“We had a really tight timescale due to the demolition [on the corner of the stadium],” Mr Rowswell says. The close season was only 13 weeks – so GKR had to work around the demolition during this time when building its staircases, giving it just 3-4 weeks to hand the structure over. Scaffolders worked in shifts on Monday-Friday 6am-10pm and on weekends from 8am-8pm to get the job done on time.
“I don’t think we’re working on any projects as large as this in terms of the site size, but the scaffolding scope is average-to-large”
GKR used Layher’s Stair 750 design, handrails and Protect screening panels on the staircase, creating the high loads on the minimum footprint by forming clusters of four standards connected to solid steel jacks.
In addition, non-standard slab levels and subsequent landing levels of 2.4/2.5 m meant the team had to use a systemised measurement that would fit into a non-systemised dimension, which meant GKR and Layher had to work closely together to get the right results.
The east staircase also proved challenging despite being smaller in size, with the client deciding late on to leave a particular roof slab in place that required some careful engineering to work around. “We probably spent more time in design on this staircase [than on the north staircase], despite it taking less time to put up,” explains GKR operations director Tony Lane.
Fire resistance requirements saw the Protect screening panels fitted to the outside. These also double up as sound and dust-proofing – and give the appearance of a permanent structure, despite its temporary nature.
The final game at White Hart Lane is currently set to take place on 13 May, subject to TV changes, against Manchester United (strangely mirroring the final match at another famous London football stadium, the Boleyn Ground, last year).
“Right before that last game, we’ll take the staircase down from its top level to level two, as that top level is only there to provide access to a plant room,” Mr Rowswell says. “The plan then is to work 24 hours through the night in different shifts to take it down – and demolition of the rest of the stadium will start straight after that.”
Tottenham has still not officially confirmed this will be the final season at White Hart Lane with plans subject to construction progressing as expected.
As well as the two staircases and the fan walkways, GKR has provided a number of other scaffolding elements for the project.
Most visible to fans is a temporary structure attached to the open end of the North Stand. Tottenham Hotspur wanted to put this in place to provide some extra seating and mitigate some of the seats lost during the demolition, with the structure holding 72 fans on matchdays. “It looks just like it’s part of the stand when you look at it from the front,” Mr Rowswell says. “You wouldn’t know it’s scaffolding.”
The team also erected some scaffolding on the Grade II-listed Warmington House on the High Road – a building that sits on the footprint of the new stadium site but cannot be demolished.
“We probably spent more time in design on the East staircase than on the North, despite it taking less time to put up”
Warmington House is being fully restored, with a small amount of GKR scaffolding enabling access, and will be incorporated into the new Tottenham Experience – the centrepiece of the club’s public areas, housing the club shop and museum.
There is still plenty of work for GKR to do in the future, too. At the time of CN’s visit, the specialist was getting ready to install seven hoist run-offs to provide more access.
Most exciting of all, following the assumed demolition of the existing stadium later this year, GKR will erect a huge birdcage scaffold inside the concrete bowl in preparation for the roof to be installed. This will use a compression ring system, similar to that seen recently at Atletico Madrid’s new stadium.
For a lifelong Spurs supporter like Mr Rowswell, the project continues to be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
“My dad took me here to games, and I’ve been able to take my son to games here now as well,” he says. “It’s an amazing project to be a part of.”
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/...-for-huge-scaffold-staircase/10017233.article
White Hart Lane’s redevelopment is among London’s biggest construction projects – and includes one of the largest public scaffold staircases ever built in the UK.
Tottenham Hotspur’s new stadium is one of the biggest and most high-profile projects under way in London – and certainly the biggest ongoing stadium project in the country.
Set to have a capacity of 61,000, it will include one of the biggest single-tiered stands in Europe, holding 17,000 fans – bigger than the Kop at Anfield – with an overall project value in the region of £750m.
Mace is main contractor on the site – but as with all mega-projects, Spurs’ new stadium depends on its subcontractors to ensure smooth progress and deliver the specialist works.
One of these subcontractors is GKR Scaffolding, which is providing all the access and scaffolding elements for Mace.
“I don’t think we’re working on any projects as large as this in terms of the site size, but the scaffolding scope is average-to-large,” explains GKR director (and lifelong Tottenham Hotspur supporter) Lee Rowswell.
The main challenge for GKR was obvious, but by no means simple: safely maintain access for thousands of fans on matchdays, both entering at ground level behind the North Stand but also via a staircase into the upper levels of the North Stand itself.
The stadium to replace White Hart Lane is unusual in that Spurs fans are getting a front-row view of construction progress at every home game, with the current stadium operating as usual throughout this season – albeit with one corner missing. “It means the fans get a great view of the progress when they come in – and to be fair to everyone, the site is cleaned up and looks great in time for every game,” Mr Rowswell says.
Fans enter the stadium area’s northern end via two routes, known as the East and West Walkways. These were built using scaffolding constructed by GKR with a raised concrete slab in the middle to provide the deck, and are covered in a glass-reinforced plastic (GRP) overlay to make them non-slip.
The walkways’ hoardings have a loading of 2 kN per sq m for crowds – with the deck built to 5 kN per sq m to allow for construction traffic and other vehicles to move in and out on top of it as well.
The most striking elements of scaffolding that GKR has constructed, however, are two public staircases that provide access for fans to the North and East stands.
In particular, the North Stand staircase is, GKR believes, the largest public Layher scaffolding staircase ever to be installed in the UK – and probably the largest in Europe.
With thousands of fans using the staircases on every matchday, safety and reliability were of paramount concern, all while minimising the footprint of the structure. The two Layher towers erected by GKR achieved this, with a permanent live load of 5 kN per sq m at every platform level, and loading on the handrails of 2 or 3 kN per sq m depending on people flow.
“We had a really tight timescale due to the demolition [on the corner of the stadium],” Mr Rowswell says. The close season was only 13 weeks – so GKR had to work around the demolition during this time when building its staircases, giving it just 3-4 weeks to hand the structure over. Scaffolders worked in shifts on Monday-Friday 6am-10pm and on weekends from 8am-8pm to get the job done on time.
“I don’t think we’re working on any projects as large as this in terms of the site size, but the scaffolding scope is average-to-large”
GKR used Layher’s Stair 750 design, handrails and Protect screening panels on the staircase, creating the high loads on the minimum footprint by forming clusters of four standards connected to solid steel jacks.
In addition, non-standard slab levels and subsequent landing levels of 2.4/2.5 m meant the team had to use a systemised measurement that would fit into a non-systemised dimension, which meant GKR and Layher had to work closely together to get the right results.
The east staircase also proved challenging despite being smaller in size, with the client deciding late on to leave a particular roof slab in place that required some careful engineering to work around. “We probably spent more time in design on this staircase [than on the north staircase], despite it taking less time to put up,” explains GKR operations director Tony Lane.
Fire resistance requirements saw the Protect screening panels fitted to the outside. These also double up as sound and dust-proofing – and give the appearance of a permanent structure, despite its temporary nature.
The final game at White Hart Lane is currently set to take place on 13 May, subject to TV changes, against Manchester United (strangely mirroring the final match at another famous London football stadium, the Boleyn Ground, last year).
“Right before that last game, we’ll take the staircase down from its top level to level two, as that top level is only there to provide access to a plant room,” Mr Rowswell says. “The plan then is to work 24 hours through the night in different shifts to take it down – and demolition of the rest of the stadium will start straight after that.”
Tottenham has still not officially confirmed this will be the final season at White Hart Lane with plans subject to construction progressing as expected.
As well as the two staircases and the fan walkways, GKR has provided a number of other scaffolding elements for the project.
Most visible to fans is a temporary structure attached to the open end of the North Stand. Tottenham Hotspur wanted to put this in place to provide some extra seating and mitigate some of the seats lost during the demolition, with the structure holding 72 fans on matchdays. “It looks just like it’s part of the stand when you look at it from the front,” Mr Rowswell says. “You wouldn’t know it’s scaffolding.”
The team also erected some scaffolding on the Grade II-listed Warmington House on the High Road – a building that sits on the footprint of the new stadium site but cannot be demolished.
“We probably spent more time in design on the East staircase than on the North, despite it taking less time to put up”
Warmington House is being fully restored, with a small amount of GKR scaffolding enabling access, and will be incorporated into the new Tottenham Experience – the centrepiece of the club’s public areas, housing the club shop and museum.
There is still plenty of work for GKR to do in the future, too. At the time of CN’s visit, the specialist was getting ready to install seven hoist run-offs to provide more access.
Most exciting of all, following the assumed demolition of the existing stadium later this year, GKR will erect a huge birdcage scaffold inside the concrete bowl in preparation for the roof to be installed. This will use a compression ring system, similar to that seen recently at Atletico Madrid’s new stadium.
For a lifelong Spurs supporter like Mr Rowswell, the project continues to be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
“My dad took me here to games, and I’ve been able to take my son to games here now as well,” he says. “It’s an amazing project to be a part of.”
tommyt
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Link to photos on SSC. Posted originally by Spursfan 1882. Hopefully no issue copying them over...
http://ls80.pythonanywhere.com
http://ls80.pythonanywhere.com
Lilbaz
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They really need to get out more.
Wine Gum
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Link no longer working - maybe the webcam pics host site rumbled the back door was open with the increased traffic .
