New Stadium Details And Discussions

[yankspurs]

I can't believe that so few people knew about the problems and delays at the stadium, I was told a couple of weeks ago and there are vids going around from the guys who are working there saying the stadium will NOT be ready within the time specified by THFC.
Mates who work, and have worked, on the stadium have told me that it is far from ready, despite what is being put out to the public.
A few of them are Chelsea and Arse fans and they are lapping it up!

There’s been so much smoke about it not being ready from many people that have worked on or know people who have worked on the site. Way too much smoke. And where there is smoke, there will normally be fire. Just looking at the pictures, one could see it was an extremely tall ask for the stadium to be ready for a test event August, and opening mid September.

Late November sounds right if things go our way, to be honest. Chelsea will be tentatively scheduled as the opener, IMO.If it cant make that, it’ll be the new year. City reads as TBC for the moment probably as the clubs work with the PL and TV through swapping the fixtures with the return as we cant use Wembley that weekend. If the club wasnt rushed into this statement by Neil Ashton, we’d likely have had that set by the friday afternoon newsdump that we were probably aiming for with the statement.

 

[theShiznit]

I've been told that we will be able to park under there, think the bays are all near lifts to help us get to the level we need to go to

Then be prepared to wait to go through security checks (as you would expect when taking a vehicle under a major sporting venue)

 

[Saoirse]

it has around 40 disabled bays, there are many that can't use public transport and need to use wheelchairs

40 doesn't sound like anywhere near enough compared to the number of disabled/wheelchair spaces in the ground?

 

[Saoirse]

they set the prices higher than anyone else because the Stadium is going to be the best in the country, and back in April they never knew that it wouldn't be ready, they also never knew in April that our transfer targets, 1's that would improve the team would be impossible to sign because their prices moved considerably north of what we expected to pay, or that the selling club refused to do business. we can't force Man U to sell Martial, or Palace to sell Zaha, or Ajax to sell de Ligt. We didn't sign anyone because the targets we went for become unavailable, or prices being asked for where not what we expected to pay. other players that could of played those rolls might of not been players Poch wanted.

Hence why it doesn't look good for them when multiple matches aren't played in said awesome stadium, and it would be a good gesture if fans were compensated accordingly.

 

[Lighty64]

Then be prepared to wait to go through security checks (as you would expect when taking a vehicle under a major sporting venue)

when you are prepared to put up with a disability, waiting for security checks will be nothing. think we usually have to be there 3 hours before KO, that's uncomfortable enough as it is

 

[theShiznit]

40 doesn't sound like anywhere near enough compared to the number of disabled/wheelchair spaces in the ground?

Perhaps the Underground car park will only serve as an overflow car park for the Disabled badge holders when the other parking options are full.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Season ticket Terms &a Conditions state that refunds are a no go once the season starts. Coincidence that we get told this news the first working day after the opening game of the season?

 

[Lighty64]

40 doesn't sound like anywhere near enough compared to the number of disabled/wheelchair spaces in the ground?

they never had enough before, its a case of 1st come 1st served. if not successful you need to find elsewhere. I expect they might have priority for wheelchair over ambulant

Hence why it doesn't look good for them when multiple matches aren't played in said awesome stadium, and it would be a good gesture if fans were compensated accordingly.

I agree about being compensated, and at least give them a chance to offer something. your jumping to conclusions that nothing will be offered, and most probably won't other than credits, but wasn't there something in the small print that covered their arses.

I had a feeling there was going to be a delay, just the fact we never got the fixture booklet in the membership packs

 

[yankspurs]

This has probably been mentioned several times but I hope they don’t give us credit again. If we’re at Wembley for half the season we should get half the difference of the increase refunded.

My ticket was £400 more expensive and if we’re not at the new stadium for half the season or so, we should get around £200 put straight back into my account. Obviously depending on how many games played etc.

I don’t blame anyone for this. Shit can happen. But this could’ve been better handled and they just shouldn’t have taken our money before they could be sure it would all go ahead. Difficult i know but fair. I’d be very disappointed with a credit type thing. The club need to appease a little bit, this would go a long way to help.

Doesn’t help that i fucking hate Wembley!

Knowing the club, they’ll double what they were going to increase it by next year then give half of that as the refund.

 

[Saoirse]

when you are prepared to put up with a disability, waiting for security checks will be nothing. think we usually have to be there 3 hours before KO, that's uncomfortable enough as it is

I'm surprised people put up with that, especially those who don't tend to drink several pints before a game. That's big commitment.

 

[Saoirse]

I agree about being compensated, and at least give them a chance to offer something. your jumping to conclusions that nothing will be offered, and most probably won't other than credits, but wasn't there something in the small print that covered their arses.

I had a feeling there was going to be a delay, just the fact we never got the fixture booklet in the membership packs

Not jumping to conclusions, but I think it should have been in the statement today. The fans losing out are the bottom priority and it doesn't sit right.

 

[Lighty64]

Not jumping to conclusions, but I think it should have been in the statement today. The fans losing out are the bottom priority and it doesn't sit right.

due to them being forced into making a statement today, at the moment they have a massive headache as it is, and just didn't add that, but best to see what they do offer before losing your shit. this can't be easy on the club at the moment.

 

[Lilbaz]

Not jumping to conclusions, but I think it should have been in the statement today. The fans losing out are the bottom priority and it doesn't sit right.

The fans are the least urgent worry. They have a couple of weeks to come up with a reasonable compensation package. Fa, nfl, liverpool etc... were far more urgent worries that had to be sorted.

 

[adamsky]

All well and good people saying something on critical path has gone wrong, not just a general delay etc... I have met at least 3 people who were/are working on the stadium doing relatively minor jobs. Each one said that the place was never going to be ready, said it looked miles off. These are guys who were not privy to any information but who have worked on major sites in past and could just speak from experience. I posted this a couple months back so was not at all surprised to hear the news today.

 

[Lighty64]

Someone along the line is accountable. If this really is down to fire suppression, either someone in design has come up with a gigantic flaw which everybody's missed, or someone has made a gigantic mess of fitting huge amounts of equipment that again everybody's missed till now. It beggars belief that something could be so badly wrong it causes a two-month minimum delay and nobody had any idea until today - the only way that's possible is if several people have made a hash of things. If it's Levy and his team, he's responsible. If it isn't, then he's responsible for making sure that whoever's fucked up is on the line for the money, and that this finds its way back to the club and the supporters who've been let down.

I know this is an absolute shot in the dark possibility but not every single body that works on the stadium is a Spurs fan. earlier there was evidence of a spam fan painting the irons sign somewhere and no longer works on site. just a possibility another spam, chav, gooner, scouser could of made an error in installation knowing how critical and knowing it would end up embarrassing a club they hate. I know it's doubtful, but still possible

 

[Bobbins]

Wish they'd just said it'll be two years at Wembley and been done with it instead of trying to rush to this insane deadline. No-one's ever knocked one stadium down and built another in it's place in such a short time.

Now not only do we look pretty incompetent, we've almost certainly wasted a fortune in the overtime/out of hours daily rates on the construction itself.

Just take the two years and people would've been annoyed but put up with it. Asking people to go back to Wembley now when they've been promised and paid for a new stadium is a pretty shitty kick in the teeth. Especially with no new players to watch there. Bet the NFL are unimpressed as well.

 

[Lighty64]

I can't believe that so few people knew about the problems and delays at the stadium, I was told a couple of weeks ago and there are vids going around from the guys who are working there saying the stadium will NOT be ready within the time specified by THFC.
Mates who work, and have worked, on the stadium have told me that it is far from ready, despite what is being put out to the public.
A few of them are Chelsea and Arse fans and they are lapping it up!

the same Chelsea fans that won't be getting their new stadium for quite awhile now

 

[Lighty64]

I'm surprised people put up with that, especially those who don't tend to drink several pints before a game. That's big commitment.

one of the reasons I can't attend as many games. 3hours before usually meant, a struggle to look after 2 youngish kids, to keep them entertained and visiting the club shop, 1 drink which I was allowed then, and a visit to chick king. by time I got to the ground I'd be in agony

 

[whitesocks]

I reckon the Chelsea fixture will determine if we have to play all our games at Wembley.
They'll claim it is unfair to switch stadiums as we are more settled at Wembley and a rival who plays us later at NWHL has an advantage.
I dare say Liverpool said the same, and Levy has had to go to extraordinary lengths to counter that.

The optimists and cheerleaders will say of course we'll play that at NWHL, its months away, but they've lost a lot of credibility this last week. None of us know for sure.

 

[BHX88]

Yes, this from a PR perspective is not good and opposition fans will make memes and say things on the internet but long term - what's new and who cares? I understand that from a credit/refund POV there will be concessions that need to be made, and I am willing to give the club time to sort these out.

We saw what happened when West Ham opened the Olympic Stadium early and ill-prepared and the security issues and loss of reputation that caused (yes I understand that stadium is woefully unadequate to host football, but I do believe that the majority of problems caused was because they rushed getting it ready for the start of the season).

It is a hassle to get to Wembley and a shame that seemingly our first few CL games will not be at the new stadium but cries of the club being a shambles, a laughing stock, an embarrassment are missing the point. Compared to where the club was 10, 15, 20 years ago, we have some of the finest training facilities in world football, soon enough one of the worlds best stadiums, and a team of young, hungry players either brought through the club or nurtured and moulded into a team that comfortably plays the best football seen in a Spurs shirt for decades.

I for one will be getting behind the team, and the club for how ever many games we play at Wembley, and absolutley cannot wait until the first game at the new stadium, whether it's Chelsea at home in the PL or Cheltenham Town in the League Cup. Heck I don't even care if I have to wait until January to watch a game, because I know that I'll be watching us play in a suberb stadium for decades to come.