Next Manager Watch

[Johnny J]

I guess it depends on your starting point (general you, not specific you). If you think the whole board is useless then you will not believe anything as other than spin.

If not, then after the last couple of years it makes a lot of sense to pick a manager that the players will respond to. We need to recreate the Poch atmosphere as much as anything else and if there wasn't confidence that JN could do that then it makes sense.

We are all speculating though so who knows.

You're right, none of us know. But my guess is this isn't about the players, it's about Levy and how he likes to do things. We've been here before many times.

 

[Scot-Spur]

P O’Keefe on twitter is telling it how many on here presumed. Couldn’t agree wages/structure/recruitment strategy.

Essentially saying Levy wants a puppet who will overachieve with what he is given. Also referenced players like Sess.

It does paint a rather gloomy picture.

 

[allatsea]

Worth noting that they seem likely to have been demands that Chelsea would not agree to either.

maybe there is just something about JN that rubs people up the wrong way.

100% right IMO.

 

[Hercules]

P O’Keefe on twitter is telling it how many on here presumed. Couldn’t agree wages/structure/recruitment strategy.

Essentially saying Levy wants a puppet who will overachieve with what he is given. Also referenced players like Sess.

It doesn’t paint a rather gloomy picture.

He is spot on

 

[Tucker]

and so it begins……the word “fit” used as a deflection tactic….

Fuck me. You need to get out more. This isn’t some grand conspiracy. It was me and @muppetman (and the tweet he shared) that used the word fit, not the club, or indeed the ITK I shared over from COYS. No one is putting “fit” out there as a fucking deflection. Jesus wept.

 

[curlacious]

and so it begins……the word “fit” used as a deflection tactic….

I think fit is important. As a manager of a small team in a large organisation, I've been involved in plenty of recruitment. The temptation is to be swayed by experience and technical proficiency, but the more reliable predictor of how someone does in a job - and how long they stay - is personality and cultural fit (and the ability to learn fast and adapt to new environments), with both your immediate team and the wider organisation.

 

[HedgieSpur]

Apologies if this has already been shared but seems to back up the idea it's about "fit".

and so it begins……the word “fit” used as a deflection tactic

I guess it depends on your starting point (general you, not specific you). If you think the whole board is useless then you will not believe anything as other than spin.

If not, then after the last couple of years it makes a lot of sense to pick a manager that the players will respond to. We need to recreate the Poch atmosphere as much as anything else and if there wasn't confidence that JN could do that then it makes sense.

We are all speculating though so who knows.

My starting point is that one can find out/work out “fit” pretty quickly and do not need to leak to the press about the lack of fit of any candidate.

 

[HedgieSpur]

Fuck me. You need to get out more. This isn’t some grand conspiracy. It was me and @muppetman (and the tweet he shared) that used the word fit, not the club, or indeed the ITK I shared over from COYS. No one is putting “fit” out there as a fucking deflection. Jesus wept.

Relax dude… I gave my opinion on Eccleshares tweet.

 

[HedgieSpur]

P O’Keefe on twitter is telling it how many on here presumed. Couldn’t agree wages/structure/recruitment strategy.

Essentially saying Levy wants a puppet who will overachieve with what he is given. Also referenced players like Sess.

It doesn’t paint a rather gloomy picture.

If that is the case then at least it is better to get someone who is happy to work under those conditions.

 

[noggen]

P O’Keefe on twitter is telling it how many on here presumed. Couldn’t agree wages/structure/recruitment strategy.

Essentially saying Levy wants a puppet who will overachieve with what he is given. Also referenced players like Sess.

It doesn’t paint a rather gloomy picture.

Lovely. So we are sticking with the same system that obviously hasn't worked for the last 5 years.

 

[RuskyM]

Last thing the club needs or wants is another manager who's combustible. That isn't looking for a yes man, it's just wanting a manager who won't say they need the world to be able to do their job (but they'll take a very big salary for it). Which is exactly what they should do.

Slot's a good choice, but I'm happy with giving it to Mase.

 

[HedgieSpur]

I think fit is important. As a manager of a small team in a large organisation, I've been involved in plenty of recruitment. The temptation is to be swayed by experience and technical proficiency, but the more reliable predictor of how someone does in a job - and how long they stay - is personality and cultural fit (and the ability to learn fast and adapt to new environments), with both your immediate team and the wider organisation.

I do a lot of recruitment too and tbh the word “fit” is often used as a way of confirming bias…. “Great guy but not quite the right fit”.

In the end though, it’s all down to the decision makers and our fans will have varying degrees of confidence that they will make a good decision this time.

 

[felmani26]

If that is the case then at least it is better to get someone who is happy to work under those conditions.

It does lead the question once again though of do the board, as a collective know what they want let alone who they want?!

 

[Stoof]

P O’Keefe on twitter is telling it how many on here presumed. Couldn’t agree wages/structure/recruitment strategy.

Essentially saying Levy wants a puppet who will overachieve with what he is given. Also referenced players like Sess.

It doesn’t paint a rather gloomy picture.

First paragraph doesn’t necessarily mean the second paragraph.

I’ll be brutally honest, something didn’t sit right with JN with me. You can trawl up my posts on this if you don’t believe me (as it would be the first thing I’d accuse me of) - but it is a “fit” thing.

Also JN’s name doesn’t fit in the blue and white army chant and my thesis on this is well known.

 

[Flobadob]

The best kind of leaders are always the one’s that don’t want a load of yes men around them, they want people that respect them but will chime in when they don’t agree and suggest a better path forward. Something for Levy and the board to think about!

Hiring someone that doesn’t demand a lot of the club isn’t the way forward. Yes they need to be able to work under the restraints of the club but another yes man isn’t the answer. The mistakes are being made at the top more than anything else, we all know it and someone with enough about them to question poor decisions is needed too

 

[curlacious]

I do a lot of recruitment too and tbh the word “fit” is often used as a way of confirming bias…. “Great guy but not quite the right fit”.

In the end though, it’s all down to the decision makers and our fans will have varying degrees of confidence that they will make a good decision this time.

You're right - it is a problematic term and can be misused

 

[allatsea]

P O’Keefe on twitter is telling it how many on here presumed. Couldn’t agree wages/structure/recruitment strategy.

Essentially saying Levy wants a puppet who will overachieve with what he is given. Also referenced players like Sess.

It does paint a rather gloomy picture.

All this with a person supposedly we haven't been in discussions with. Amazing.

 

[ShriekinKnight]

It's incredibly scary that the direction of this manager search (and I'd imagine it's the same as the DoF search) is basically who will challenge Levy the least

 

[HodisGawd]

I guess it depends on your starting point (general you, not specific you). If you think the whole board is useless then you will not believe anything as other than spin.

If not, then after the last couple of years it makes a lot of sense to pick a manager that the players will respond to. We need to recreate the Poch atmosphere as much as anything else and if there wasn't confidence that JN could do that then it makes sense.

We are all speculating though so who knows.

While I'm absolutely gutted about the Nagelsmann news and believed we needed to get him, this is a reasonable take.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Last thing the club needs or wants is another manager who's combustible. That isn't looking for a yes man, it's just wanting a manager who won't say they need the world to be able to do their job (but they'll take a very big salary for it). Which is exactly what they should do.

Slot's a good choice, but I'm happy with giving it to Mase.

While I agree, a club the size of ours with the revenue streams we have shouldn’t be settling with how things are.

Surely when not one, not two but three coaches say things have to change the chairman should take stock?

Yet he puts his head down and carries on regardless. Any manager with any ambitions would tell us to get lost.

While I could see Mason managing us in the future now isn’t the time. Harry Kane has single handily kept this club in the champions league places for years. Levy and the club will be clueless when he leaves.