Next Manager Watch

[Majick]

I'm not particularly clued up on Australian football managers, but can an argument be made that Postecoglou is the best of them? He's spent 11 years with the various national sides, worked his way through various contracts moving to - based on reports here - better positions each time, and seen a bit of the world while he's done it, winning various league and cup competitions along the way.

That's what you're supposed to do, I feel. And given that the A-League only launched (after the previous league folded) when he was 38 it's not like he had a chance to prove himself a managerial prodigy early in his career. He's been in the footballing backwaters, publicity-wise, and has now shown in a European league that his skills and experience are transferable.

I have no strong preference at the moment for any of the candidates, but I do feel that as a club without any trophies in 15 years we should certainly be open to the idea of appointing someone who's been continually successful in his career while working his way up the ladder.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Steven Gerrard won the SPL with Rangers

Bad lazy comparison.

 

[bbunc]

Another terrible appointment that goes against everything the club said it wanted? Yep. Sounds like Tottenham. See you all in the next manager thread in October.

Each entitled to their opinion, but I just don’t quite get this view. We’re looking for a hard working, positive coach who plays aggressively on the front foot and has demonstrated an ability to get teams quickly playing that style.

actually think he’s a pretty darn good fit from a DNA (or at least what we want the DNA to be) perspective.

Will it work if he’s the guy? Who knows - it’s an uphill battle for sure for anyone just given the state of the club, but I think his playing style fits what we want very well.

 

[muppetman]

 

[greaves]

I'm going to bite - and I'll take the Aussie bias comment if it comes. But, to say we're being gaslight is so disrespectful to us and to Ange. Ange has earned everything he has been given in his coaching career so far. He has come up against groupthink like yours the entire time - yet every team he has coached has improved both on field and off it.

A coach is not the fountain of knowledge like some think. Nor do they have to be a big name. What they need to be is authentic and genuine, with an ability to lead and inspire. All of which Ange has in spades.

I'm a premier league hockey coach in Western Australia, currently coaching olympic athletes and State players. I've never played the game at that level. However, I can inspire, teach and get people to learn. This is what makes successful coaches. This is what Ange has.

I can guarantee nothing because sport is not linear. However, I can guarantee groupthink and prejudice like yours is on its way out of sport - good riddance.

 

[mil1lion]

For all Kane’s genius on the pitch, he’s never given any impression of being particularly switched on off it. He’d be a similar standard manager to Lampard quite honestly.

I guess I'm just hoping that a motivated Kane for one more season is going to help us transition that bit easier. We need a manager to build the style of football next season so by the time Kane leaves we should be in a better position to replace him. Like how we played well without Kane when Poch was here and Son went up top. My concern is if Kane isn't happy and we get a similar reaction as we did under Nuno the next manager is going to have a rocky start. We're in the worst position to sell Kane this summer so need a manager to turn us into a more cohesive team who is less reliant on a star player. That will take a season to set in place.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I don’t disagree that any manager we hire has to work with some of what we currently have because we cannot turnover the entire team overnight but we have wavering over rebuilding the squad since Poch left hence when we hired Jose and Conte and if memory is correct, we actually chose Jose over Nagelsmann at the time… How much further ahead we would we be now if we had not made that decision?

I don't disagree about Jose. I said as much at the time. Although I saw some sense as Nagglesman wouldn't leave Leipzig mid season and Jose was the highest profile manager available on the market.

Mistakes have been made no doubt. But going back to an attacking manager who wants to coach and improve young players is at least a step back in the direction that we all want to see.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's started

There will always be some moaners but largely Twitter needs to be ignored unless it’s a huge uprising like gattuso for good reason.

 

[spurmin]

If we get him, I'll get behind him. Doesn't matter what part of the world he's from or how long it's taken him to get here, if he embraces Tottenham Hotspur and promises to play and coach in the Tottenham way, I'll cheer for him

It’s a shame that this part of your post doesn’t work the same for some of our players. For example from the season just gone Emerson Royal and Davinson Sanchez. Both slated on here and rounded on at the stadium.
Support the new coach and the players. We might do better as a club.

 

[snakehipsspurs]

Really believe some people are going to be eating their words in 6 months time. Ange is going to surprise people who don’t know him. (If he actually gets the gig of course)

 

[greaves]

Excellent. The bit I put in bold in particular chimes.
However, I can inspire, teach and get people to learn

 

[Tonio]

I'm going to bite - and I'll take the Aussie bias comment if it comes. But, to say we're being gaslight is so disrespectful to us and to Ange. Ange has earned everything he has been given in his coaching career so far. He has come up against groupthink like yours the entire time - yet every team he has coached has improved both on field and off it.

A coach is not the fountain of knowledge like some think. Nor do they have to be a big name. What they need to be is authentic and genuine, with an ability to lead and inspire. All of which Ange has in spades.

I'm a premier league hockey coach in Western Australia, currently coaching olympic athletes and State players. I've never played the game at that level. However, I can inspire, teach and get people to learn. This is what makes successful coaches. This is what Ange has.

I can guarantee nothing because sport is not linear. However, I can guarantee groupthink and prejudice like yours is on its way out of sport - good riddance.

Bang out of order to throw that kind of accusation at somebody . Surely a conversation can be had without resorting to that. He didn’t display anything of the sort.

 

[dSSAbr]

Lets be honest, there was one perfect candidate (Nagelsmann) after that you can find a reason not to hire someone. What is making me sad and without hope is that we KNOW it wont be the first option that the club had in mind. We are losing to ourselves, as Chelsea was the only job thar was open with similar level to us.

 

[night-watchman]

Really believe some people are going to be eating their words in 6 months time. Ange is going to surprise people who don’t know him. (If he actually gets the gig of course)

I am utterly convinced they will be. What I am also confident of is he will be able to rise above the early pressure and criticsm he will no doubt recieve if appointed. Literally exactly the same was levelled at him before he joined Celtic and that turned around pretty rapidly.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I'll happily be mistaken - enlighten me as to what the connotation attached to journeyman means then?

Someone who spends a career bouncing around lower level jobs.

 

[RobjDerby]

The problem you have, is when Poch & Harry were appointed, the club was still overall on an upward trajectory.
Expectations were low
Levy has sold (or over-charged really) our Fans the promise of competing at the top level, being an elite club etc etc.
The Goodwill is gone, no more patience, win something...NOW
Failure after failure is what has transpired. Bad decisions, or indecision.
Thats why people expect LE, Poch or JN. Thats the level we've been promised.
Yes I know Conte and Jose were not successful either, but we know the real reasons for that too.

So that is why when rumours of a Manager who hasn't excelled at the top level, managing top class players (yes we do still have a few), is met with this kind of reaciton.
Its not about Where they are from.

We've got a Toxic atmosphere, its gonna take a miracle to clear it out.

 

[JCRD]

Like big Ange from the stuff I have seen of him. Very good style of football, likes to rebuild with rough diamonds rather than established players. Sort of ticks the boxes.

however I can understand why fans would have reservations.

1 big jump in quality in terms of league he would manage in.
2 massive come down from Nagelsmann and Pochettino.
3 while the appointment might be good the messy nature means fans won’t think it is a genuine plan more a whatever is left option.

Essentially we are comparing Poch v Ange or anyone else who comes in. Poch was pretty much willing to come back but we 'gave him up' so now, any appointment would need to be better than the one who was willing to come but we decided not to go for.

I am intrigued by Ange but intrigue doesnt mean I want us to appoint him but no idea who is on the list hence we shouldnt get too exercised by the rumours until it all materialises one way or another.

 

[Rosco1984]

I find it odd that people are demanding we give patience to Ange when they were ready to turn on the past three managers from day one. He doesn't deserve the same level of respect as Jose or Conte at all. Won nothing and done nothing of note in his career.

its the style of football people turn on. If we arent winning but we look like we are giving everything and taking the game to the opposition people will stay more patient than cowardly crowding our own penalty area with bodies under jose or trying to counter attack constantly and allowing the opposition to have the ball under conte.

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

I'll happily be mistaken - enlighten me as to what the connotation attached to journeyman means then?

You’re very mistaken, you’re overly offended because you’re Australian it seems.
I couldn’t care what nationality Ange is or any manager we appoint as long as they’re the right manager.

Our board openly said we want to go back to our supposed ethos and employ a young, upcoming forward thinking coach.

But somehow we’ve landed on a man that’s had a 27 year managerial career, mostly in Australia and briefly in Asia.
Those leagues are the equivalent to semi professional in England.
He has next to no experience as a top level manager at the highest level, it’s worlds apart from where he’s been.

Celtic have won the league 12 out of the last 13 years so he’s not some kind of visionary either.

This is Munn’s mate who we’ve landed on because we’ve either pissed other managers off or we’ve turned our noses up at managers who’d want more control.

This isn’t good enough.

 

[Guntz]

Ange has been doubted at every club he's been at. He's had to work his way up from the very bottom of the footballing pyramid to where he is today.

Hardship is something he's dealt with consistently throughout his life, as he comes from an immigrant family.

His philosophy of high-pressing & attacking football aligns with ours and he has shown that he can walk into a broken club and rebuild them from the ground up. Celtic finished 25 points adrift of Rangers the season before he took over!

Yeah, he may not be the glamour appointment that most of us wanted (I wanted Nagelsmann btw). But I think he's the type of manager that can get everyone pulling in the same direction again - not a divisive character like Conte/Mourinho.

Many people have compared him to Martin Jol and I think that's a good comparison. Jol's career before managing us consisted of ADO Den Haag, Scheveningen, Roda JC, and RKC Waalwijk... Not exactly Real Madrid is it?

We've tried the serial winner route and it's completely flopped. It's clear that the whole club needs a cultural reset and I think Ange could be the perfect man to do that.