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DiVaio

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He fell out for the right reasons though.

Dortmund they signed Isak and someone without him knowing. Thats unacceptable. They also sold his core of Hummels, Gunodgan and Mkhitariyan and went money crazy on attackers. Zorc was close to the CEO and came under fire.

PSG Leonardo was the common denominator as he fell out with all the managers there, including Poch.. Tuchel demanded they keep Thiago Silva and they got rid. He was proved right.

Boehly came in and signed tons of players Tuchel didnt want. Guess what, they are overloaded with players and many signings dont look good enough.

He's not left because there's a lack of spending or throwing his toys out the pram because hes not getting who he wants, its for the best of the clubs interests and he has been proven right every time.

It doesnt mean he isnt shying away from confrontation, he is his own man and I get that its almost repeat but lets not make out like its been his fault at all former clubs.
Main reason of his conflict with Watzke at Dortmund was that he decided to play one day after bomb attack when Tuchel and team weren't ready.
So yes, as it's true Tuchel was falling out with boards in previous clubs, the context of it - selling main players and bomb attack at Dortmund or takeover at Chelsea makes it quite unlikely to repeat. And with Leonardo every manager should fall out because he's complete fraud as sporting director :ROFLMAO:
 

fishhhandaricecake

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One thing I'm pretty sure on is it will be a classic Levy 'low risk safe pick':
Aside from Ramos and Santini who between them had won a UEFA Cup recently and the other was France Manager so both pretty high profile, every single other Levy manager hire has been a 'safe' well known manager with PL experience (not nessercarily a bad thing if it works out like Redknapp or Poch but deffo a bad thing if it works out more like : AVB, Jose, Nuno, Conte etc).

So those of you who think he will suddenly change a habit of a lifetime and go for Gallardo are pretty likely to be very disappointed.

If Paratici is the one having a big influence then we might end up going a bit more left field even though he was the one that bloody stopped Fonseca, tried to get Gattuso and ended up with Nuno and then Conte. At Juve he hired Sarri, Pirlo and re-hired Allegri, hardly any bold or inspiring moves there really.

Levy when left to his own devices goes for PL experience as a safe bet as he has no clue beyond that, he is also influenced by the current DofF at the time, Fonseca would've been suggested by Hitchen, Nuno was put forward by Paratici after Gattuso was stopped by the fans and Paratici was the one who got Conte.

Current bookies favourites:
Poch - former manager
Tuchel - PL experience
Glasner - don't want him but would be as much of a gamble as Levy has ever taken
L.Enrique - fairly high profile name ex Barca and Spain manager
M.Silva - PL experience
Kompany - PL experienced player and Championship experience manager
Postecologlu - would be very unlike Levy to go for someone like him
De Zerbi - PL experience
Thomas Frank - PL experience
Gallardo - Levy would have kittens appointing someone as much of a risk as him
Fonseca - would've been as much of a risk of Levy having taken in years actually would've probably been good for us, doubt we'd go back to him now or he'd be interested now, pick was influenced by Hitchen
Amorim - doubt Levy would go for a profile and risk like this
Rodgers - PL experience
Conceciao - doubt Levy would go for a profile and risk like this
Arne Slot - doubt Levy would go for a profile and risk like this
Steve Cooper - PL experience

Based on a leopard not changing his spots between Levy and Paratici I think the favourites surely have to be: Poch, Tuchel, M.Silva, Frank, De Zerbi (if we can buy-out his contract).

I cannot see Glasner, L.Enrique, Postecologlu, Gallardo, Amorim, Conceciao or Slot happening if Levy is strongly involved, possibly L.Enrique as a big enough name but otherwise if its any of them I think it would be down to Paratici and even then I think Paratici would end up going for a boring style of play pick.

Previous Levy Managers:

Antonio Conte (well known great CV)02 Nov, 2021Present
Nuno Espirito Santo (PL experience, known name)30 Jun, 202101 Nov, 2021
Ryan Mason N/A19 Apr, 202129 Jun, 2021
Jose Mourinho (well known great CV)20 Nov, 201919 Apr, 2021
Mauricio Pochettino (PL experience, known name at the time)27 May, 201419 Nov, 2019
Tim Sherwood N/A16 Dec, 201313 May, 2014
Andre Villas-Boas (PL experience, known name at the time)03 Jul, 201216 Dec, 2013
Harry Redknapp (Tons of PL experience)25 Oct, 200815 Jun, 2012
Juande Ramos (Just won the UEFA Cup with Sevilla, good CV)29 Oct, 200725 Oct, 2008
Clive Allen N/A26 Oct, 200729 Oct, 2007
Martin Jol N/A - only got the job as a bi-product of Santini getting sacked05 Nov, 200426 Oct, 2007
Jacques Santini (France national team manager)03 Jun, 200405 Nov, 2004
David Pleat N/A21 Sep, 200303 Jun, 2004
Glenn Hoddle Incumbent when ENIC took over02 Apr, 200121 Sep, 2003

Lets see if the past dictates the future as it has done previously under Baldy knownothingaboutfootball McLevy.
 
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mattspur1986

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FP has been brilliant behind the scenes with the youth set up, he's brought in some fantastic players and has also secured top talent such as Sarr and Udogie when a lot of top clubs wanted those players.

However, his managerial targets are somewhat worrying. Spoke to my source early this morning and was given a few more names to add to the two I've consistently mentioned (Tuchel & Enrique). The problem lies where FP has drawn up a list of potential managers, most of which don't play the kind of football Levy (supposedly) and us fans would like to see.

Again, it's all a bit messy where there are too many people involved in the process. It's highly likely FP won't even be here in 6 months time with everything going on so it's just a bit of a mess again.

There are so many problems behind the scenes, it sadly doesn't really matter who comes in as the new manager.

I'll also repeat what I already said last week, Poch would of course love to come back, but I'm told he has his sights firmly set on Madrid currently and there are too many people behind the scenes who would need convincing that bringing him back right now is the right thing to do.

Sad times 😔

Tottenham Hotspur being a shit show? Colour me surprised 🙃
 

Oscar22

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I mean the amount of managerial change isn't massively unprecedented. Looking at the super league clubs, the managers they've had since 2001 (estimates, I'm not 100% on these):

Atletico: 9 managers
Real Madrid: 16 managers
Barcelona: 13 managers
Inter: 15 managers*
Milan: 10 managers*
Juventus: 13 managers
Arsenal: 3 managers (2 in the past 5 years)
Chelsea: 16 managers
Liverpool: 6 managers
Man City: 7 managers
Man United: 7 managers (6 in the last 10 years)
Spurs: 12 managers (13 if you count Mason)
Bayern: 12 managers
Dortmund: 10 managers
PSG: 11 managers

*Italian football is weird and I genuinely can't tell how many of these are permanent appointments.

It's not *hugely* out of the ordinary.

FFS we’re even in a battle for fourth in THAT table 🤦🏻‍♂️.
 

JayB

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So yes, as it's true Tuchel was falling out with boards in previous clubs, the context of it . . . makes it quite unlikely to repeat. And with Leonardo every manager should fall out because he's complete fraud as sporting director :ROFLMAO:
I've been vocally supportive of hiring Tuchel but, to be fair, these two thoughts are totally inconsistent with one another if the question is whether he would be likely to have a falling out at Daniel Levy's Tottenham.
 

YB123

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Something tells me he'd fall out with Levy for the right reasons too...

Sad truth is we probably need a manager who will toe the line to some degree like Poch did otherwise they'll storm off or be booted within 18 months.
Yep cant disagree with that unfortunately.
 
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