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Arlien Slagelsmann
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I agree, Slot feels like the right personality fit. Nagelsmann is a bit arrogant and aloof?I will be glad with either Nagelsmann or Slot. But I'm still preferring towards Slot. Somehow I feel we really needed more of a human touch element and Slot kinda provides that with his demeanour.
But Nagelsmann may well bond greatly with our squad of young players if things turn good and it can be a very unified squad especially if coached well.
Can you show me were he has been arrogant or aloof ?I agree, Slot feels like the right personality fit. Nagelsmann is a bit arrogant and aloof?
The best managers need to know they are the one. They need to be courted, not required to impress or sell their wares. Maybe Chelsea had already taken against Julian Nagelsmann. Maybe he has heard a whisper about better prospects in Madrid or, God forbid, Tottenham. It really doesn’t matter. It is not a good look that managers on Chelsea’s shortlist are leaking their disinterest. What does that say to the players, or even to the other candidates?
I think it's pretty common for top clubs to speak to multiple managers behind the scenes and do interviews of sorts, but after the Potter debacle Chelsea seem to have taken it a bit too too far and done it very publicly.This is a good piece by Martin Samuel arguing that a beauty parade is no way to recruit an elite manager at the top level.
I agree.
Posting here because it's about Nagelsmann and we've heard we're going through a similar process.
Of course Julian Nagelsmann wants no part in Chelsea beauty parade
A beauty parade is no way to conduct a search for the next manager. Not at the elite level.The best managers need to know they are the one. They need to be courwww.thetimes.co.uk
I've worked with Germans a lot over the years and they tend to be very literal/logical in their outlook. If you say you'll do something this afternoon they'll be at your desk 8am tomorrow looking puzzled that it's not done.Can you show me were he has been arrogant or aloof ?
Or is this yet another I made it up in my head kinda vibe
In all seriousness I have read some mad shit on here of late so started skimming so may e I missed something.
By the way if we are not looking at a shortlist of gallardo or naglesmann then this club is beyond help.
I've worked with Germans a lot over the years and they tend to be very literal/logical in their outlook. If you say you'll do something this afternoon they'll be at your desk 8am tomorrow looking puzzled that it's not done.
Some people can interpret that as arrogance but none of the Germans I've worked with have been.
I've never met Julian Nagelsmann of course. He might be a right git.
I posed it as a question because I don't have proof. I got the general sense he had a bit of an ego, as a young prodigy with lots of hype might, but I'm quite possibly wrong on this.Can you show me were he has been arrogant or aloof ?
Or is this yet another I made it up in my head kinda vibe
In all seriousness I have read some mad shit on here of late so started skimming so may e I missed something.
By the way if we are not looking at a shortlist of gallardo or naglesmann then this club is beyond help.
Have we actually got a squad of young playersI will be glad with either Nagelsmann or Slot. But I'm still preferring towards Slot. Somehow I feel we really needed more of a human touch element and Slot kinda provides that with his demeanour.
But Nagelsmann may well bond greatly with our squad of young players if things turn good and it can be a very unified squad especially if coached well.
Nagelsmann must be arrogant because he is a Leo. Slot is a Virgo. I have no idea what that means. But Levy and the board know. This is how they choose all their managers. With the odd tarot reading and spliff thrown in, they get it right. At least that's what they tell themselves, as they giggle away to Frank Zappa in the cheese room ('That's crackers man!' 'The Cheese Board man!').Can you show me were he has been arrogant or aloof ?
Or is this yet another I made it up in my head kinda vibe
In all seriousness I have read some mad shit on here of late so started skimming so may e I missed something.
By the way if we are not looking at a shortlist of gallardo or naglesmann then this club is beyond help.
There was talk from German journos that he can be a bit aloof and egocentric. As a guy in his mid-30s at Bayern I think they expected him to basically give up his life for the job but he'd still go off skiing between matches at times (that's where he was when he was sacked) and bowl up for training on his skateboard which raised a few eyebrows in the squad.I posed it as a question because I don't have proof. I got the general sense he had a bit of an ego, as a young prodigy with lots of hype might, but I'm quite possibly wrong on this.
Any manager at the elite level will have an ego. Anyone committed enough to get to the very top of whatever they do will have. It's part of the make up.I posed it as a question because I don't have proof. I got the general sense he had a bit of an ego, as a young prodigy with lots of hype might, but I'm quite possibly wrong on this.
Your supposed to sell the product dude not smoke it all yourselfNagelsmann must be arrogant because he is a Leo. Slot is a Virgo. I have no idea what that means. But Levy and the board know. This is how they choose all their managers. With the odd tarot reading and spliff thrown in, they get it right. At least that's what they tell themselves, as they giggle away to Frank Zappa in the cheese room ('That's crackers man!' 'The Cheese Board man!').
That's actually incredibly helpful, thank youThere was talk from German journos that he can be a bit aloof and egocentric. As a guy in his mid-30s at Bayern I think they expected him to basically give up his life for the job but he'd still go off skiing between matches at times (that's where he was when he was sacked) and bowl up for training on his skateboard which raised a few eyebrows in the squad.
Don't think he was a massive knob or anything but I think he was perceived as a bit cold and very focused on the tiny tactical details rather than being a warm 'arm-round-the-shoulder' type.
This article goes into it quite a bit:
At a club like Bayern Munich, player morale is vital and the most influential players in the dressing room possess significant power and sway. Upsetting the likes of Thomas Müller was never likely to endear the former RB Leipzig coach to the other Bayern players or the board itself. Nagelsmann also infuriated Manuel Neuer after sacking his friend and long-time goalkeeping coach Filip Tapalović. Failing to cultivate positive relationships with World Cup winners and stalwarts of the club that embody its culture was always going to leave a dent in the young coach’s ambitions of long-term success in Munich.
In the same Raphael Honigstein piece, Nagelsmann was said to have “put the system over the needs of the players”. This was a problem faced early in Pep Guardiola’s tenure in Munich due to the Spaniard also being an astute tactician who often made many changes, but Guardiola had the experience, pedigree and man-management skills to encourage the players to buy into his philosophy. Unfortunately, this simply wasn’t the case for Julian Nagelsmann.
The players were said to have craved a “father figure” in the dressing room — Nagelsmann simply didn’t provide this due to behaviours such as arriving to training on a skateboard and riding a motorcycle in the city. It’s worth keeping in mind that he is only 35 years old and, subsequently, he was always more likely to act in this way as opposed to how a far more experienced manager would behave. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing across the board as it may help certain players feel more comfortable with the manager, but it evidently didn’t send the right message at Bayern Munich.
What Went Wrong for Julian Nagelsmann at Bayern Munich?
Bayern Munich currently sit in second place on the Bundesliga table, just one point adrift of rivals Borussia Dortmund. They have also qualified for the quarter-finals of both the UEFA Champions League and DFB-Pokal where they will face Manchester City and SC Freiburg respectively. The Bavarians...breakingthelines.com
Imagine this kind of thing would be less of a problem at Spurs where there are fewer egos and massive historical characters looming over the club like they have at Bayern, but could still rub some players up the wrong way.