Next Manager Watch

[EastLondonYid]

Keep seeing Ange name popping up, the Celtic boss.
My parents are Greek and I would love a Greek manager.

But back in the room....

On what basis do we employ him?
He's work down under or he's work north of the border?

Really???

Fkinel fellas, please raise the bar ffs.
He has done nothing to be in the frame...imo.

 

[Impspur1]

Keep seeing Ange name popping up, the Celtic boss.
My parents are Greek and I would love a Greek manager.

But back in the room....

On what basis do we employ him?
He's work down under or he's work north of the border?

Really???

Fkinel fellas, please raise the bar ffs.
He has done nothing to be in the frame...imo.

Which means he’s nailed on to get it

 

[LukaKranjcar]

Genuine question, what are the main reservations around Tuchel? (Aside from the Chelsea connection which i get)

Looking at him pragmatically he fits the profile in a number of ways no? Im genuinely interested, i thought he'd certainly be a popular choice but there seems to be a good number with doubts.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

100%

There's no way we get a coach who is already in a job right now. Especially Amorim or De Zerbi, the former still in EL and the latter has only been at Brighton since September so will be advised to stay where he is until at least the summer - and he has the FA Cup to play for.

If it's something they are trying 'to pull off' you can rule out Gallardo because that's probably a bit more straight forward.
Poch would be easy to get in for a meeting/interview.

So you are looking at trying to convince coaches to come who out of work and that leaves Tuchel who is probably wanting to wait to see what happens in the summer.

Yeah if we are actually going for a manager now then It leaves us with Enrique, Tuchel, Poch, Gallardo and Glasner (by all acounts).

Amorim does have a release clause which im assuming means if we paid it he would come but I i've read it could be anywhere from 10-30 mil which Levy would never pay. Ether way I don't see it happening like you say. He'd probably turn us down if came in for him now anyway.

By all accounts Poch seems to be out of favour or he wants to go to RM or its a bit of both.

Gallardo did say he didn't want to join a team mid season when Leeds approached so if i was being incredibly optimistic I would say it was he who might take some persuading, but lets face it, Levy doesn't remotely have the vision to commit to him.

Glasner I would think is mostly agent talk but we did employ Nuno so I wouldn't be completely shocked if it happened. I would be incredibly disappointed tho.

Which leaves Enrique and Tuchel, neither which a great choices for different reasons and both I think would end in disaster. Enrique probably wouldn't have many qualms about joining straight away so that does leave Tuchel as an option that might need finessing by Levy.

I really really wish I could feel even mildly optimistic about this next step but I just feel its going to be a complete disaster. I just have zero faith in Levy and Paratici doesn't have the best track record of manager choices.

 

[richard_gleeson]

Id be happy with:

Poch - As a fan I feel connected to him and he did some great work before he was starved of help
Tuchal - His CV is extremely good, creates solid and attacking teams and he's still young
Enrique - The style would be interesting. Its literally pass the ball, keep the ball, typical Barcelona philosophy
Amorim - He seems impressive for his ages and has done a good job so far
De Zerbi - Seems very well liked by his players and is doing great attacking tactics while not conceding many goals
Gallardo - Risky but the job at River was impressive and so it is attractive

Not really interested in anyone else. Needs to absolutely be someone relatively young and not a strict dinosaur. We need some personality and likeability, and hopefully some connection with the fans (style of play)

 

[lobob8]

Unpopular maybe but I'd be very happy with Tuchel or Enrique, I hope it's one of them. Best chance of keeping Harry as well, who I really really don't want to lose.

I'd rather see Poch return when we've got new owners, Gallardo and Ange too big of risks for me, and I can't see De Zerbi leaving Brighton so early.

 

[Gpnash84]

Yeah that about sums up my take on him. For me there's basically 3 tiers:

Managers I Could Actually See Building Something Here Long Term (Tier 1)

De Zerbi, Amorim, Postecoglu

Managers With Pedigree That I Would Really Want To Succeed But Expect Would Be Gone Within 2 Years (Tier 2)

Tuchel, Poch, Enrique

ShitTurds* Guaranteed to Fail (Tier 3)

Glasner, Frank, Silva, Mason

*ok so they're decent managers not shitturds but they'd struggle to last a year at Spurs

Poch will never ever be tier 2. That man took us to the champions league final.

 

[Tonio]

Keep seeing Ange name popping up, the Celtic boss.
My parents are Greek and I would love a Greek manager.

But back in the room....

On what basis do we employ him?
He's work down under or he's work north of the border?

Really???

Fkinel fellas, please raise the bar ffs.
He has done nothing to be in the frame...imo.

Exactly. Ludicrous appointment if it were to happen. Managing an Aussie team and a championship level team in a shit league in Scotland is not the standard we ought to be measuring ourselves against in the search for a new manager.

 

[felmani26]

I wonder if there’s conflict between Paratici’s preferred choice in Enrique and perhaps Levy’s in Tuchel?

I also wonder if once again, Levy looks at Tuchel as not only a short cut to winning trophies but also to appease Kane who quite clearly wants to win silverware not way off in the future, but next season.

 

[Tucker]

Matt Law (who's been good for Spurs stuff)

Says list is

Enrique
Tuchel
Poch
De Zerbi
Big Ange
Glasner
Frank

Probably in that order

Thomas or Fat?

 

[mil1lion]

Genuine question, what are the main reservations around Tuchel? (Aside from the Chelsea connection which i get)

Looking at him pragmatically he fits the profile in a number of ways no? Im genuinely interested, i thought he'd certainly be a popular choice but there seems to be a good number with doubts.

Brand of football and his history falling out with owners

 

[Spartan Spurs]

I have not gone through this whole thread so I may be repeating what others have already said or know.

I have little faith in Levy & our Board in their footballing decisions.
On the most elementary level, if you look at the Board's composition, it's all about finance & corporate affairs.
Not one has a footballing background (less Paratici who only recently joined).
Even if Paratici got the appointment spectacularly right, he could be out voted 5-1.

So essentially, our decisions are in a set of directors hands yet they have no footballing direction.

I firmly believe that some of the more knowledgeable posters here would have far more success if they were listened to.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Amorim or Gallardo for me. Why not take a risk? These big names haven’t exactly done us any good.

 

[Tezza1978]

Personally think Tuchel is a superb manager and would be great for us - obviously he can be another explosive character but he is probably the best manager currently available.

I'm really in two minds about him. Great manager, winner, more attacking than Conte and I couldn't give a toss that he is ex Chelsea. But he is a bit of an abrasive character and looks like the sort of guy who could have an argument with an empty room.

I think he could work but a bit of a risk.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I said a week or so back that the two names I was given were Tuchel and Enrique.

And both would be in the same mould as Conte and Jose. Tactically they are very different, but neither last long at a club and both are prestige managers. Tuchel even has the added bonus of being a difficult character. Not at all surprised if its one of those two but neither of them would be an appoint with any sense of long term vision or understanding of what the club needs. It would just yet again prove how limited Levy's thinking is regarding football matters.

 

[spursfan77]

On Tuchel - My wife is a Chelsea supporter so I saw a fair bit of them under Tuchel. They were a very dominant front foot side but quite dull to watch. That said they've had issues for a while now in terms of finding regular goalscorers. I always suspected if you put Kane and Son in Tuchel's Chelsea they would have been title winners. Lukaku just couldn't cut it. I certainly wouldn't be against him coming in if he fancied it.

One major issue if he came in though would be the chelsea stigma. Wouldn't take long before certain parts of the fanbase start bringing it up. He wouldn't get much patience.

Still think Poch is the man if we can do it, just feels the right fit for what we need right now.

What I will say is that the list looks a lot better than it did the Nuno summer, so that's something of a positive.

Think of the memes from that handshake with Conte though!

 

[tony0379]

Keep seeing Ange name popping up, the Celtic boss.
My parents are Greek and I would love a Greek manager.

But back in the room....

On what basis do we employ him?
He's work down under or he's work north of the border?

Really???

Fkinel fellas, please raise the bar ffs.
He has done nothing to be in the frame...imo.

We could invite him round for souvla every Sunday and get some juicy itk from him.

 

[H-SF]

Genuine question, what are the main reservations around Tuchel? (Aside from the Chelsea connection which i get)

Looking at him pragmatically he fits the profile in a number of ways no? Im genuinely interested, i thought he'd certainly be a popular choice but there seems to be a good number with doubts.

People are just thinking simplistically - ex Chelsea, big name so he is thus destined to fall out with Levy and fail. But Tuchel plays much better football than Conte, his teams press much higher and dominate games. This was particularly evident at Dortmund but he’s tried to implement pressing everywhere he’s been, unlike Conte who is a mid block manager. He’s definitely one of the better bets for us and would probably get us top 4. My main concern with him is his talent ID in the transfer market but working with a DOF who has more control could prevent this being an issue. The club obviously won’t bring him in because it would be unpopular amongst the fanbase but he’s arguably the a top 5 coach in the world and would do a great job.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Keep seeing Ange name popping up, the Celtic boss.
My parents are Greek and I would love a Greek manager.

But back in the room....

On what basis do we employ him?
He's work down under or he's work north of the border?

Really???

Fkinel fellas, please raise the bar ffs.
He has done nothing to be in the frame...imo.

Why not? Gallardo, Amorim are being built up despite bodies of work in Portugal, Argentina.

Alternatively, our last three managers have been awful to OK, and between them have plenty of experience working in the biggest leagues, biggest competitions in the world (including Nuno's experience in this league) and have won everything.

Not looking to be confrontational about this, just not sure this should count him out. Whoever we punt for, it's going to be a gamble. Poch to Postecoglou, Frank to Frank (Lampard...)

 

[spursfan77]

If it's Glasner then I might just check out of the club for a while. That's Nuno-levels of an appointment. I genuinely hope the noise from the german media is bs, but Bild is IIRC quite reliable and they are pushing it hard.

Don't worry about it, it won't be him. We met with him months ago. He's just in the mentions because of that.