Next Manager Watch

[Japhet]

Exactly. Ludicrous appointment if it were to happen. Managing an Aussie team and a championship level team in a shit league in Scotland is not the standard we ought to be measuring ourselves against in the search for a new manager.

You need to look at more than where he's coming from. He's got dull teams playing great front foot football which shows he can actually coach players, and we need somebody who can do that. I'm not saying for one second that he's the right man, but remember, Poch came from Southampton after he got them playing good stuff, and Brighton picked up DeZerbi out of left field.

 

[Styopa]

Tuchel and Levy has disaster written all over it. Just bound to implode after two or three transfer windows.

 

[wiggo24]

Tuchel and Enrique are just such unimaginative choices. Sometimes I really do wonder whether Levy/the club are even aware of the other options or if it really is just that they're obsessed with having a big name boss for ego purposes.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Anyone mentioned Martinez yet?

 

[Hotspur33]

We all thought that with Conte tbf

Exactly. And I’m sure Conte has tried, but we can’t shift them

 

[tony0379]

Anyone mentioned Martinez yet?

Hasn't he got another job?

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

You need to look at more than where he's coming from. He's got dull teams playing great front foot football which shows he can actually coach players, and we need somebody who can do that. I'm not saying for one second that he's the right man, but remember, Poch came from Southampton after he got them playing good stuff, and Brighton picked up DeZerbi out of left field.

It's the type of fast-track thinking that got the club stuck with Jose, Nuno (sort of) and Conte.

 

[Hotspur33]

He sacked a cup winning machine 7 days before a cup final to replace him with a 29 year old with no experience.

Would we have won it? Probably not. But it goes under the radar as one of the worst footballing decisions I think I've seen from any football chairman.

He and the above only care about CL football and thats it. Financial incentives.

I’m a Levy supporter, and I even agree with this.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

You need to look at more than where he's coming from. He's got dull teams playing great front foot football which shows he can actually coach players, and we need somebody who can do that. I'm not saying for one second that he's the right man, but remember, Poch came from Southampton after he got them playing good stuff, and Brighton picked up DeZerbi out of left field.

Wasn’t he also Brightons number one pick to replace Potter and Brighton are a team that seem to know how to recruit.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Hasn't he got another job?

Its a joke

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Tuchel and Enrique are just such unimaginative choices. Sometimes I really do wonder whether Levy/the club are even aware of the other options or if it really is just that they're obsessed with having a big name boss for ego purposes.

fur coat no knickers seems to be Levy’s mode of operation, a posh West Ham, a Del Boy haggling in Mayfair club.

 

[H-SF]

Tuchel and Enrique are just such unimaginative choices. Sometimes I really do wonder whether Levy/the club are even aware of the other options or if it really is just that they're obsessed with having a big name boss for ego purposes.

Both are genuinely tactically competitive and top tier in 2023 though. Unlike our last 3 appointments. People are too concerned with the overarching image these big name managers carry. Ultimately the focus should be on their on pitch product. That is where Conte and Jose have ultimately fallen.

 

[night-watchman]

Why not? Gallardo, Amorim are being built up despite bodies of work in Portugal, Argentina.

Alternatively, our last three managers have been awful to OK, and between them have plenty of experience working in the biggest leagues, biggest competitions in the world (including Nuno's experience in this league) and have won everything.

Not looking to be confrontational about this, just not sure this should count him out. Whoever we punt for, it's going to be a gamble. Poch to Postecoglou, Frank to Frank (Lampard...)

I dont get it either. Why is Ange such an unbearable thought to some but Amorim or Gallardo are okay? Because Gerrard failed from Rangers? It beats me.

We have gone for "high caliber" managers in 2 of our last 3 appointments and both have not panned out. What most seem to agree on in here is we need a Project Manager that plays good attacking football and is also malleable to Levy's "whims". Ange ticks a lot of these boxes.

- Attractive Football - tick
- Likeable Guy who forms a bond with the fans - tick
- Can undertake a project with underachieving players - tick
- Builds a formidable mentality within his teams - tick

The only big one missing there is he hasnt managed in a Big 4 league - but neither has Gallardo or Amorim so I dont see this an issue.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Both are genuinely tactically competitive and top tier in 2023 though. Unlike our last 3 appointments. People are too concerned with the overarching image these big name managers carry. Ultimately the focus should be on their on pitch product. That is where Conte and Jose have ultimately fallen.

You can make a pass on Jose as he was declining, can’t do the same with Conte, he came to us with a rep as one of the world best coaches with a recent CV to prove it.

The manager has to fit the club. We need a project manager, a builder with fresh ideas not a big name here for a quick buck and a short stay.

 

[daveduvet]

… not that my opinion matter much, but I’d accept Harry & Mason til end of season… don’t want tuchel - keeps falling out with folk; or de zerbi until he’s had another reason. I’d like Poch if truth be told. He knows the way levy et al are. I know the square root of f.a re the other names.

 

[JOLLHURN]

No more contemptuous Chelsea twats please.

 

[only1waddle]

It also sounds like they are trying to make this really seamless.

Conte is fired, new coach is announced immediately.

Like when Jose came in.

Attempting to not look like clueless amateurs then.. damage limitation and image over a detailed well thought out plan.

 

[Hotspur33]

Exactly this, Tuchel is probably even more "in-demand" than Conte was when we got him. There's not really a better knock out competition manager available. If Tuchel didn't manage at Chelsea, we'd all have some reservations with him working with Levy but know we'd take the risk. He's won over 60% of his matches at every club besides Mainz, was probably the best of the latest bunch of managers with PSG, and played youth, attacking, high-press at Dortmund. He's played a number of different formations, from 3 at the back to 4231.

I would certainly be upset if we didn't at least have a conversation or sound it out with him. Totally understand if he didn't want to come or if we passed as a learning lesson from our past couple managers and if it's just not a right fit, but from a tactic and play perspective, he's what most of us list in our wants.

Someone else said it better than me earlier in the thread. The issue hiring Tuchel is not his coaching ability. He’s clearly a really good coach. But he is as volatile as Conte and won’t last 5 mins.
He probably also regards himself as being above the level of Spurs now.

 

[rossdapep]

I dont get it either. Why is Ange such an unbearable thought to some but Amorim or Gallardo are okay? Because Gerrard failed from Rangers? It beats me.

We have gone for "high caliber" managers in 2 of our last 3 appointments and both have not panned out. What most seem to agree on in here is we need a Project Manager that plays good attacking football and is also malleable to Levy's "whims". Ange ticks a lot of these boxes.

- Attractive Football - tick
- Likeable Guy who forms a bond with the fans - tick
- Can undertake a project with underachieving players - tick
- Builds a formidable mentality within his teams - tick

The only big one missing there is he hasnt managed in a Big 4 league - but neither has Gallardo or Amorim so I dont see this an issue.

Well for a start;

Gallardo has been quite dominant in South America and is seen as a outlier and inspiration for budding coaches in that region..
South American football is a big step up from Asian football - winning the Copa Libertadores is special.

Amorim has come up against the best coaches in Europe and faired very well.

Celtic haven't done well in Europe.

That gives you some level of how good a coach can be.

 

[rossdapep]

I highly doubt Tuchel agrees to come for a number of factors