Next Manager Watch

[Clockspur]

If his mandate is to qualify for the CL, and his bonus structure aligns with that I doubt very much he will be risking it in the lesser comps if we have a big PL game following.

Which is exactly why we need a change at boardroom level far more than we need a change of manager.

The financial incentives for our managers are set up in such a way as to dissuade them from going strong in the cups in case it derails us from 4th place because that’s where the money is.

To my mind that no longer makes us a football team, we are a business. Our only goal is to maintain a CL position, there is no sporting ambition to win.

so what’s the point for us as fans, I have shares in Aviva and hope they remain profitable but I don’t buy their (hypothetical) shirt, watch their insurance department every week and sing songs about them.

How can people not see that Levy has killed the very essence of being a football club.

 

[journeyman]

I don’t want Kompany or Carrick. They are both bright guys, and may in time become very successful coaches, but there are endless examples of managers doing well in the Championship and not being able to translate that in the Premier League. Too soon for these guys, I think.

 

[SDogg]

Im sure Kompany will be a fine manager but there isn’t a chance we take a risk on him. He needs to prove himself at PL level before getting a “top” job.

i dont think Kompany would take the risk on us either, listening to him talk the other day was very interesting.

 

[Nerine]

My issue with Tuchel isn't that he's ex Chelsea it's that he's another Volatile coach, and we have a chairman with who could set water on fire.

Silly innit, really.

Levy hires these managers knowing full well what kind of characters they are, and then seems to scratch his head when he find himself at odds with basically all of them.

What's worse is that he doesn't seem to be able to look inwardly and understand he is the common denominator.

Unless the managers we hire actively lie and promise to compromise to secure the position, and dupe Levy in the process... I'd say that their records usually speak for themselves.

 

[Yiddo100]

All very worrying and screams of just casting a wide net as opposed to honing in on a top choice. “He’ll come for how much and has agreed to those stipulations? Yes, he’ll do.”

Or the press have no idea who we want and are just putting names out there.

 

[arunspurs]

My issue with Tuchel isn't that he's ex Chelsea it's that he's another Volatile coach, and we have a chairman with who could set water on fire.

So, are we as a fan base now saying that, managerial record dont matter. And what we need is a amicable, go along good lad manager who will go well with management and should be likeable by fans ?

Probably few qualify for it but not sure, what our club goal is then ?

 

[Clockspur]

He also named about 9 other candidates tbf

At this rate we would be better off naming those that definitely won’t be our new manager, I will start:

Conte
Hodgson

 

[spursfan77]

Poch might only want to come back in the summer. He might want a pre season and some squad churn. If he comes back now, and doesn't make top four, there might be a sense that he has failed before he has even begun.

A bit like when he went to psg mid season and didn’t win the league.

 

[bat-chain]

Tuchel or Redknapp, what a world we are living in.

 

[felmani26]

I don’t want Kompany or Carrick. They are both bright guys, and may in time become very successful coaches, but there are endless examples of managers doing well in the Championship and not being able to translate that in the Premier League. Too soon for these guys, I think.

I understand the sentiment but then how many have been given an opportunity at club with a completely different remit and ambitions than merely just avoiding relegation and generally working on a shoe string budget?

 

[Trix]

Which is exactly why we need a change at boardroom level far more than we need a change of manager.

The financial incentives for our managers are set up in such a way as to dissuade them from going strong in the cups in case it derails us from 4th place because that’s where the money is.

To my mind that no longer makes us a football team, we are a business. Our only goal is to maintain a CL position, there is no sporting ambition to win.

so what’s the point for us as fans, I have shares in Aviva and hope they remain profitable but I don’t buy their (hypothetical) shirt, watch their insurance department every week and sing songs about them.

How can people not see that Levy has killed the very essence of being a football club.

Mate I keep banging that drum but every time I do someone pipes up with "I'm just defending Conte" or that "I'm anti Levy" when neither are true. My absolute finite stance on both are that Conte is a top class coach who wasn't backed properly but should still have done much better, and that Levy is a financial genius who knows fuck all about football and should stay out of that side of things.

 

[spursfan77]

I know all that, I'm just saying front foot football won't be enough for our fanbase if points don't accompany it.

I’m not a 100% sure on that. Lots of us season ticket holders just want to want to go again. Of course we don’t want to lose games but football is about entertainment too and we haven’t been properly consistently entertained since we’ve been back in the new stadium. Small steps.

 

[Trix]

I don’t want Kompany or Carrick. They are both bright guys, and may in time become very successful coaches, but there are endless examples of managers doing well in the Championship and not being able to translate that in the Premier League. Too soon for these guys, I think.

Indeed but then there are starting to become numerous examples of managers that have done incredibly well in the Premier league that still can't sort our mess out.

 

[felmani26]

So, are we as a fan base now saying that, managerial record dont matter. And what we need is a amicable, go along good lad manager who will go well with management and should be likeable by fans ?

Probably few qualify for it but not sure, what our club goal is then ?

I don't think anyone has been calling for that - even the left field choices in Gallardo have an impressive CV so it's hardly a complete punt!

 

[Ghost Hardware]

My issue with Tuchel isn't that he's ex Chelsea it's that he's another Volatile coach, and we have a chairman who could set water on fire.

Exactly and he has also been known to get into it with players. Tactically he's very good but after Conte and Jose he just isn't a good fit. I can't help but feel it would be a disaster.

 

[Trix]

I’m not a 100% sure on that. Lots of us season ticket holders just want to want to go again. Of course we don’t want to lose games but football is about entertainment too and we haven’t been properly consistently entertained since we’ve been back in the new stadium. Small steps.

Mate losing and drawing games against lesser teams isn't enjoyable even when it's 5-4.

 

[spursfan77]

If this is the case then I hope we give him a longer deal then just 18 months and have a clear plan moving forward. Tuchel is an elite coach so I wouldn't mind him.

I’m coming around but I’m not sure we have the players that suit him. Definitely not playing the way his Chelsea team we don’t (based on the tifo video I posted yesterday evening)

 

[Joely410]

My issue with Tuchel isn't that he's ex Chelsea it's that he's another Volatile coach, and we have a chairman who could set water on fire.

 

[Trix]

He also named about 9 other candidates tbf

bases covered ☑

 

[chas vs dave]

My issue with Tuchel isn't that he's ex Chelsea it's that he's another Volatile coach, and we have a chairman who could set water on fire.

That confirms it, Adele's song set fire to the rain is actually about Daniel Levy