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cunn1ngstunt

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Poch will come back one day. If it’s this month or in many many months I’m happy. I miss a manager that cares. That cares about him, us and where we are going. Feels like it’s been a while. Mange tu
 

rossdapep

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I've mentioned this before, during our last before last managerial hunt funnily enough, but I have a client who played under Conceição at Nantes.

He said he was the best coach he's played under because he had good managent skills, training was good and he wanted his team to be aggressive.

Having said that I've watched a bit of Porto and whilst they are aggressive they are certainly more balanced and the defensive line sits lower so they are not all out attack and I'd expect Conceição to be quite reserved in the PL
 

curlacious

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I've mentioned this before, during our last before last managerial hunt funnily enough, but I have a client who played under Conceição at Nantes.

He said he was the best coach he's played under because he had good managent skills, training was good and he wanted his team to be aggressive.

Having said that I've watched a bit of Porto and whilst they are aggressive they are certainly more balanced and the defensive line sits lower so they are not all out attack and I'd expect Conceição to be quite reserved in the PL
Conceição hasn't been spoken about much, although Danny Kelly is a big advocate. I think Conceição should be more in the conversation.
 

Pochemon94

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Don’t come after me for saying this but I think we should go all out for Kompany. He’s unproven yes, but it’s hard to argue against how well he’s doing. He would command respect because a lot of players on our team have either played against him or watched him while riding up through the ranks. He doesn’t look like he fucks about either
 

HoltbiusMac

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For me if Poch is wanting to come back then you’ve got to either hire him or hire someone you can reasonably think is a better choice. Glasner, Frank, Silva, Conceição are just not better picks than Poch.

Personally I would also discount Tuchel because he’s too abrasive of a character to work longer term. Amorim because despite thinking he’s a good manager he’s just not more likely to succeed than Poch is imo. Enrique for me is also a massive risk who would need an even greater squad turn over and has no premier league experience. These would be managers I could understand and support but would expect to fail.

That would leave De Zerbi who is in a similar position as Poch when we hired him and would be my first choice or going wild card with Gallardo which could work amazingly well but could also crash and burn.
 

Albertbarich

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I see all this as an opportunity for real change, the real question is whether this will be the catalyst for change or not.

I think if we get a project coach who is here for five/six/seven years we will all be patient and let the guy go through the highs and go through the lows.. and if that means selling Kane and/or Son then so be it. It has got to be the right man though...
I'm was listening to Last Word on Spurs tonight (I know) and the old fella who loves a contrarian rant was going on about leaders like he was Churchill and whilst the panel loved it I just thought it was lazy clichéd bollocks.

Get the right guy in, one who gels and bonds with the players , can add smartly to smooth over the squads current weakness' and connects with the fans , before you know it were winning games, confidence is flowing and those players who previously looked weak, mentally incapable and fraudulent will become heroes again.

I think Tuchel could do that , I think Poch would have the best chance to do that because of the emotional bond and you could take a risk on a younger coach looking to step up or even the Celtic guy.

We just need the right man , at the right time , backed up by smart transfers ( and they can happen, think Toby and Wanyama) and suddenly everything looks rosy again.
 

chas vs dave

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Paratici shouldn’t be picking the manager.
So, who should?

Surely the director of football should be picking the manager. Or are you suggesting it's left to Levy?

Most on here have been criticising levy for getting involved in the football matters.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Don’t come after me for saying this but I think we should go all out for Kompany. He’s unproven yes, but it’s hard to argue against how well he’s doing. He would command respect because a lot of players on our team have either played against him or watched him while riding up through the ranks. He doesn’t look like he fucks about either
Yep I think Kompany could suit us well and is worth the gamble. Promote yaya and Defoe to his coaching team, then along with Bellamy, if we can find a GK coach ex player then we’d have quite the 5 a side team 😅
 

fishhhandaricecake

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So, who should?

Surely the director of football should be picking the manager. Or are you suggesting it's left to Levy?

Most on here have been criticising levy for getting involved in the football matters.
Based on previous picks and input Levy weirdly seems to maybe be better at picking managers that Paratici and that says a lot!
 

Luka Van der Bale

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I don't think I'd warm to Kompany.

He was the poster child for City, one of the first players they signed for the "project" who was so far above their level and could have gone to much bigger clubs.

The way he's been talking recently with regards to financial fair play is also not how I'd like our manager to view things. The existence of nation owned clubs is a scourge on the game and he's a part of that.
Not sure if anyone else has responded to this- Kompany signed for City well before the takeover. He was a January signing and they were taken over the following August.
 

spurs9

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I have no idea about Conceição
But statistically, Conceição has managed 315 Porto games in 5.5 seasons...and they have scored 687 goals with a +433 goal difference.

I know its Portugue league but this number is still isnt ordinary. So, am not sure, how people say his teams are boring. Boring teams dont do this.
32% of their goals are from set pieces and penalties. For perspective, under Nuno and Conte ours is 23% (and that's with an amazing set piece coach). He is basically the Portuguese Sam Allerdyce.


Port's main goalscoring threat is from central midfield using the classic third man run.
Is that Kevin Nolaninho
 

JacoZA

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That’s not the point is it? They’re saying if we go down we go down fighting to the last second like at the height of Pochettino‘s reign, while still winning lots of matches. Not putting everyone behind the ball at 3-1 against Southampton or putting out vastly changed sides against the mighty Sheffield United. That 6 goal thriller under Redknapp was much more entertaining than the 6 goal collapse against Southampton by the way - both disappointing but one was much easier to swallow.
I am not saying high scoring defeats can’t be entertaining. I’m saying that people will very quickly forget these current statements and will complain every bit as much if we lose against a lower half team team, regardless of how many goals were scored.
 

littlewilly

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I've mentioned this before, during our last before last managerial hunt funnily enough, but I have a client who played under Conceição at Nantes.

He said he was the best coach he's played under because he had good managent skills, training was good and he wanted his team to be aggressive.

Having said that I've watched a bit of Porto and whilst they are aggressive they are certainly more balanced and the defensive line sits lower so they are not all out attack and I'd expect Conceição to be quite reserved in the PL
For those of you completely unsure (like me) of the pronunciation of Conceição , I looked it up on several pronunciation sites and the consensus seems to be something like:
con say sow.
 

Jules77

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Paratici’s choices for manager in 2021 were Gattuso & then Nuno. I absolutely wouldn’t be giving him free rein on this one.
yet that's his job.

(and i think Conte was his choice to, no? he at least made it happen in the end. which most of us were for at the time)
 

soup

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I am not saying high scoring defeats can’t be entertaining. I’m saying that people will very quickly forget these current statements and will complain every bit as much if we lose against a lower half team team, regardless of how many goals were scored.
Without sounding rude, that's exactly the point. People will complain every bit as much if we lose against a lower half team, but would have been entertained.

90 minutes of football is a long time if you're playing badly, but 90 minutes of football flies by if it's a good game, your team is winning, or your team is generally playing some good football.

In time spent, watching your team play badly and winning is a chore. Watching your team losing playing badly is a complete waste of time, literally a waste of 90 minutes that ends with disappointment.

For me, watching Spurs play well and winning is fantastic, but when they play with a bit of verve, and I'm entertained, it doesn't ever feel like a waste of time, even if they do lose.

That's the best way I can explain it, I think, for me at least.
 

ButchCassidy

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Paratici’s choices for manager in 2021 were Gattuso & then Nuno. I absolutely wouldn’t be giving him free rein on this one.
Then fire him and replace him with someone who can do it. You can’t want Levy out of footballing matters, except for when the fans disagree with the DoF and then Daniel should jump right in and overrule him. Hire a Director of Football and let them do the job, and if they’re bad at the job fire them and hire a good one. The answer is never Daniel Levy handpicking a manager (although that’s absolutely what’s going to happen).
 

JacoZA

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Without sounding rude, that's exactly the point. People will complain every bit as much if we lose against a lower half team, but would have been entertained.

90 minutes of football is a long time if you're playing badly, but 90 minutes of football flies by if it's a good game, your team is winning, or your team is generally playing some good football.

In time spent, watching your team play badly and winning is a chore. Watching your team losing playing badly is a complete waste of time, literally a waste of 90 minutes that ends with disappointment.

For me, watching Spurs play well and winning is fantastic, but when they play with a bit of verve, and I'm entertained, it doesn't ever feel like a waste of time, even if they do lose.

That's the best way I can explain it, I think, for me at least.
I see what you are getting at, but it says a lot about a person (and this is not directed at you) if they are going to still complain as much as they are now despite getting what they asked for. I will admit that I would not place much value in the opinions of a person like that.
 

PrettyColors

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I'm now of the opinion, what with the dodgy dealings and possible prison sentence, that Paratici is absolutely part of the problem.

If he couldn't even get on the same page as his best mate Conte I have zero confidence he can present the vision the club needs to move forward successfully.

Rid the club of the entire Italian presence. Except Kulu and Rodrigo. They can stay.
 

coy-spurs1882

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I'm now of the opinion, what with the dodgy dealings and possible prison sentence, that Paratici is absolutely part of the problem.

If he couldn't even get on the same page as his best mate Conte I have zero confidence he can present the vision the club needs to move forward successfully.

Rid the club of the entire Italian presence. Except Kulu and Rodrigo. They can stay.
Udogie: 😭
 
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