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fishhhandaricecake

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Nagelsmann has been sounded out and is keen.

Now down to Levy to come to an agreement re budget, salary etc....

That's my educated opinion on the matter.
Love the info and pray to the footballing gods we get Nagglesman and not Gautier!!!

I suppose it’s one thing him being keen but what other offers has he been given, he might be keen for us but then Madrid have a word with his agent that he’s their main target this summer and then surely he says thanks but no thanks to us for example.

Just have to hope he’s keen to get back to it asap with us, probably not too many better jobs than us available right now, more just the issue is what could be available if he waited until summer.

I wouldn’t have thought salary and transfer budgets would be too much of an issue we paid managers very well and our transfer budget should be ‘reasonable’, it’s probably more the level of control that he’d have that would be a potential an issue.

Positive head says we got Jose and conte so why not nagglesman, we have the best facilities and play in the best league in Europe with a half decent Squad and we pay managers well.

Spurs Levy scarred head says it’ll 100% be Gautier or Glasner or some other similar defensive boring coach because Paratici has been too involved 😢😅
 

Duke of Northumberland

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Yeah I agree it makes a lot of sense on a human level, however he'd be leaving the prospect of European football hanging in the balance. Does he want to commit in advance to a club that could potentially not even quality for Europa if the next 10 games under Mason are a shit-show?

Top 4 would be a big challenge for him at this point, however good he is - and could start with a failure…
 

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A lot of people who wanted Poch back but hate the idea of Galtier should remember that Poch had PSG playing just as badly. They were awful under him. It's largely because PSG are a basket-case of a club and because both managers don't seem to work well with big names like an Ancelotti does. For a fairer look at his capabilities consider what he's done before. He won a league title with Lille (partly because of how bad Poch's PSG were!) having prevented them getting relegated just 3 years before. Also got a good track record with bringing youth through. Still far from my first choice but he's a much better coach than we're seeing right now at PSG.
 
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wrd

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Yeah I agree it makes a lot of sense on a human level, however he'd be leaving the prospect of European football hanging in the balance. Does he want to commit in advance to a club that could potentially not even quality for Europa if the next 10 games under Mason are a shit-show?

Given the position of his career, he would be under less pressure coming into the prem and only having to deal with europa league football, he might benefit from that. If we get top4 then I’m sure he’d be happy with that but I think it’s win/win whatever scenario if he’s keen, I don’t think it’s a deal breaker as there’s very few other interesting moves available, only Madrid and I don’t think he’s that profile currently especially after being dumped by Madrid, I think it’s back to the steady project manager grind.
 

Timberwolf

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Given the position of his career, he would be under less pressure coming into the prem and only having to deal with europa league football, he might benefit from that. If we get top4 then I’m sure he’d be happy with that but I think it’s win/win whatever scenario if he’s keen, I don’t think it’s a deal breaker as there’s very few other interesting moves available, only Madrid and I don’t think he’s that profile currently especially after being dumped by Madrid, I think it’s back to the steady project manager grind.
Yeah, I can see that. Money talks and some very decent managers have been joining bottom half PL clubs, so it wouldn't be a huge surprise for Nagelsmann to commit to Spurs regardless of European football next season. Like you, I don't see him at Madrid and does he want to turn down one of the only likely available top PL jobs just in case the Chelsea job becomes available in the summer?

There's definitely a certain breed of obsessive workaholic manager that couldn't stand leaving it to fate and would just want to jump straight back on the wagon and take charge ASAP, though.
 

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Ladies and gentlemen! If any of you think that any scenario other than Mason taking charge until the end of the season is going to happen, you can't have supported spurs for long.

Let's face it, Mason will be in charge, then we'll get whoever is left over in the summer managerial merry-go-round.

Levy can't scratch his arse without having to think about it for a month or so first.

I'm sorry for my pessimist attitude, but spurs have finally broken me! I'm now a realist 😔
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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If we get another defensive manager like Galtier again I may actually consider giving up my season ticket which I’ve had for 30 years.

Levy and Paratici are both clueless about football if defensive managers like him are on our shortlist. We’ve learnt nothing.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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It's not about what the fans want though is it. If he says he wants some time out because he's literally just left Bayern but will commit for the summer, isn't that what's best for the club, rather than moving on to a lesser target just because the fans want it to happen right now?
Might be a stupid question, but is it completely out of the equation or realms of possibility that he could sign a contract that starts in like 4 weeks or something?

Gives Nagelsmann a break to process everything, but then also let’s him have a few weeks of training and matches with the players to analyse them before going in to the summer window.
 

tottenhamlad

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Surely he wants champions league though.

Not going to risk leaving it up to Ryan Mason and sign a pre-contract.

I'm sure he rates his abilities to get the job done?
 

fishhhandaricecake

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A lot of people who wanted Poch back but hate the idea of Galtier should remember that Poch had PSG playing just as badly. They were awful under him. It's largely because PSG are a basket-case of a club and because both managers don't seem to work well with big names like an Ancelotti does. For a fairer look at his capabilities consider what he's done before. He won a league title with Lille (partly because of how bad Poch's PSG were!) having prevented them getting relegated just 3 years before. Also got a good track record with bring youth through. Still far from my first choice but he's a much better coach than we're seeing right now at PSG.
It’s nothing to do with that, at Lillie Galtier played a compact very very defensive deep block 4-4-2, it’s the absolute opposite style of what any of us want, Poch has never ever played anything close to that style.

At PSG Galtier has adapted a bit to be fair as he has mainly played a 3-5-2 /3-1-5-1/3-4-2-1 mid block and pressing via trigger counter press, the football has been ok but nothing spectacular.

Yes PSG are a basket case club but the style of play of Galtier naturally is far more defensive that we want as a fan base and that would be so so disappointing if we hired him when there are TONS of more exciting and better fit managers out there for us:
Nagglesman
Poch
Slot
Almorim
Postecoglu
Kompany
Gallardo
L.Enrique
De Zerbi
Bielsa
Fonseca

Seriously if we choose Galtier over that list of current 11 possible managers, 3 of whom are currently out of a job,.. then I and we all should completely give up with the club until Levy & Paratici are both gone.

I seriously hope and pray it’s not Galtier, I don’t even care about winning anything at this point but I can’t possibly take a 4th year in a row of boring football it’s just not worth it when you factor in the mess behind the scenes and lack of any real plan to get behind.
 

Bobbins

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Well I'm certainly not changing my avatar again. I remain confident that one day we will be managed by the incomparable Kateryna and her dutiful assistant Paulo, and until that day I will hold this precious couple and their delightful turtleneck style close to my heart.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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It is not about CL. It is about Mr. Daniel Levy making it happen……………or not………….or………Daniel?
If it’s down to Daniel then positives : he got us Jose and Conte in the past.

Negatives: he’s also hired a load of duds and bad fit managers and he’s also over complicated and pulled out on or overthinked or turned down many good managers and players over the years due to money or thinking he knows better.

Which Daniel will it be. The one that gets stuff done like big name managers and signings like Porro over the line or the one who overcomplicates things and hesitates and loses good opportunities.
 

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I don’t see how it works if he agrees to come in the summer.

The way I see things, he either signs now or we move on.

No way we would announce that he’s gonna start working in the summer. Without a signed contract, we’d be relying on his word, which we would be daft to take. Other clubs will come in between now and the summer and offer him a better package.

As of now, I believe JN is the #1 target. If that can’t be done, it’ll be toss up between Poch and Enrique.

If we leave it to the summer the only other options may be Glasner, Slot and Amorim.

In keeping with JN’s style and status, I consider Amorim the next best thing and he won’t wanna leave Sporting in the middle of their season and EL run.
No, I respectfully disagree. See below.
It's not about what the fans want though is it. If he says he wants some time out because he's literally just left Bayern but will commit for the summer, isn't that what's best for the club, rather than moving on to a lesser target just because the fans want it to happen right now?
100% this.
Ten Hag was also announced for Utd before last season ended.
... and here's the precedent.
 

SpursSince1980

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Prob in the minority, but I think signing him now to start in the summer would be the best option for everyone involved. Have to think long term. Give him time to refresh. Space to analyze our performances.

I just worry that we’d just be throwing him from one stressful situation into the other.

Not concerned if Mason and more experienced back room staff get the caretaker gig. Especially in terms of how the players will respond. This would be hugely different from the Jose debacle. As the squad knows who will be their next manager and they are all being carefully scrutinized from afar. So, if they want to stay, they need to make a favorable impression.
 
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