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[worcestersauce]

Maybe because the Bayern job was attractive enough to make Tuchel willing to join right away. Nagelsmann probably was open to join but we were not attractive enough to make him join right away. He would rather wait and see if there would be more attractive job available, like Real madrid, PSG, or even Chelsea.

Unless if we make a very good and attractive offer, hugh salary, otherwise, I am really not sure if he would make the decision now to promise and agree to join us. He can wait to see other options in summer. He isn't in a hurry. Only we are.

Its also the case that Tuchel has had months and months to prepare wanted the job anyway and was literally living round the corner where as Nagelsman was living and working in Munich until last week is in a new personal relationship and has made no preparations for a life in another country. I would understand if he wanted a couple of months time to consider or prepare.

 

[YiddoBirdy]

As @Trix has said many times spending money isn’t backing if you are not getting the players the manager wants nor understand the nature of the manager you hired.

I find it extremely hard to believe that Conte didn’t give the nod to the all of the signings. Maybe apart from Spence as he’s more a club investment.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

and thank god we didn't, imagine having zaniolo and some random italian RWB instead of Porro without conte

actually I am curious which RWB did he want if it was not Porro. he must be deluded if he thinks Hakimi would join us

 

[For the love of Spurs]

The board seem to have no clue.

we have no clear philosophy of how we want to play & won’t back a manager

I am entirely in the play good football as we won’t win shit under ENIC. So that is the below managers for me. Just fucking pick one.

1 Nagelsmann
2 Poch
3 Gallardo
4 Kompany

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I find it extremely hard to believe that Conte didn’t give the nod to the all of the signings. Maybe apart from Spence as he’s more a club investment.

we have a backline of Dier and Lenglet, the idea Conte was happy with this when the CB’s along with the wing back are the most important part of his system is for the birds.

he is a cheque book manager used to working with elite players. He is a finisher, someone who takes a top squad across the finish line. We don’t have that, we need a builder not a finisher. So yes everything that has happened is our fault. Conte is Conte and has performed as Conte, we have performed as Spurs.

 

[Dave1882]

One of the positives of this, is we have home games to vent feelings at Levy and the board. Suspect crowd will let Levy know feelings about current situation at the Brighton game

 

[n5yiddo]

This one isn’t levy’s fault though is it? 99% of fans were happy when Conte came in. And you can’t say he didn’t back him.

yes it is Levy's fault. He said he would appoint someone true to our DNA, Conte never was. If you appoint him you have to back him. But Conte whinged that some of the players we bought were not his choice. So Levy didn't back him. Conte always falls out with his employers so again, he was not a long-term fix. Levy is great at the hardware, the stadium, training ground are fab. But his need for quick fix football solutions means we have lost our footballing soul.

 

[Yid-ol]

we have a backline of Dier and Lenglet, the idea Conte was happy with this when the CB’s along with the wing back are the most important part of his system is for the birds.

he is a cheque book manager used to working with elite players. He is a finisher, someone who takes a top squad across the finish line. We don’t have that, we need a builder not a finisher. So yes everything that has happened is our fault.

Conte lined up with a back 3 (5 with wingbacks) to then only play 2 players is poor management! No wonder we conceded so many goals!

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Oh yes you can. There is a big difference between buying players and backing the manager. It's a bit like during this cost of living crisis the government said "we are giving everyone free access to all theme parks costing us x amount of billions". It's a lot of money spent but it doesn't keep the heating on.

Do the theme parks have the heating on? Oh it's metaphorical, I was just heading out for a warm and a log flume day

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

we have a backline of Dier and Lenglet, the idea Conte was happy with this when the CB’s along with the wing back are the most important part of his system is for the birds.

he is a cheque book manager used to working with elite players. He is a finisher, someone who takes a top squad across the finish line. We don’t have that, we need a builder not a finisher. So yes everything that has happened is our fault. Conte is Conte and has performed as Conte, we have performed as Spurs.

Great post.

 

[Hoopspur]

I think everyone is overthinking things here. JN has just been surprisingly sacked from his dream job a few days ago and we had to make an announcement about Conte before the players return to training on Monday. Given that timescale I think it is unrealistic to expect JN to have made any decision by today about what he wants to do next let alone whether he wants manage Tottenham. For all we know he may have gone off on a bender to drown his sorrows. Especially when it’s impossible to say what, if any, European competition we will be in next season. There is a lot for everyone to consider and I don’t understand why people expect it to be so rushed.

All this is true. But we could have at least register our interest with himself or his agents.

 

[Yid-ol]

This one isn’t levy’s fault though is it? 99% of fans were happy when Conte came in. And you can’t say he didn’t back him.

Levy has been hiring who he (and probably most fans) thought were the right managers, but then not fully backing them.

Not sure if it's players manager wanted wouldn't come to us, cost too much fee or wages or anything else. But really the manager we also have had have been very negative, so I am glad they have gone! I didn't want Jose, Nuno and even core wasn't in my top picks.

 

[Hercules]

My comment on Poch (I give up). I expressed enough times, as has Trix, the issues we had with him here. And the uncertainty about bringing him back, along with the concerns. It is by no means he is coming back. I stress again from what I know as of now is the following. Poch is not coming back in the summer.

PS: I know desperation can step in if all else fails. But that is how things stand.

 

[Trix]

Interesting. Poch's not good enough for Spurs now it seems. We've taken ourselves so far beyond his mediocre level of 77 and 86 point seasons, consistent top 4s, semi finals, finals, and CL finals.

Go ahead Levy you clown, get another mentality monster dinosaur who shits all over that sort of record of under achievement at spurs.

I don't know if it's that or whether they would have to admit they fucked up last time in letting him go, and they'd have to do things differently next time around for him to return. I think they are happy all playing real life football manager personally, and don't think they are doing anything wrong. They don't want to change how things are done.

 

[Trix]

My comment on Poch (I give up). I expressed enough times, as has Trix, the issues we had with him here. And the uncertainty about bringing him back, along with the concerns. It is by no means he is coming back. I stress again from what I know as of now is the following. Poch is not coming back in the summer.

PS: I know desperation can step in if all else fails. But that is how things stand.

Thing is mate if we end up with Poch in 6 weeks time it will 100% prove Levy's incompetence considering he could be in tomorrow if we really wanted him.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

My comment on Poch (I give up). I expressed enough times, as has Trix, the issues we had with him here. And the uncertainty about bringing him back, along with the concerns. It is by no means he is coming back. I stress again from what I know as of now is the following. Poch is not coming back in the summer.

PS: I know desperation can step in if all else fails. But that is how things stand.

Thanks for the clarification Herc, very much appreciated.

 

[mattspur1]

Based on what we are hearing, its not Poch.
We like Nagelsman however, he is holding out to see what offers he gets. That means Madrid in the summer leaving us with .........

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

Thing is mate if we end up with Poch in 6 weeks time it will 100% prove Levy's incompetence considering he could be in tomorrow if we really wanted him.

Yep, very much so.

 

[Trix]

I find it extremely hard to believe that Conte didn’t give the nod to the all of the signings. Maybe apart from Spence as he’s more a club investment.

Yeah but again him saying OK to certain players(and I believe it was more than just Spence) is not the same as getting him who or what he asks for.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

Yeah but again him saying OK to certain players(and I believe it was more than just Spence) is not the same as getting him who or what he asks for.

Thanks Trix, very interesting.