Next Manager Watch

[spursfan77]

Probably should just lock this thread until July, when the search starts anew.

Yep. They won’t be doing anything now. As far as they are concerned it’s all sorted for the rest of the season. If we were bringing someone in now it would have happened in the same vein as the last two appointments. Now it will tail off to begin again in the summer with or without paratici and Levy making the main decisions. People will have his ear obviously. But the rest of the board are just nodding dogs in the end and will do whatever he wants. Lewis may step in of course, but I’ve got a feeling he’s well away from the club now with no real urge to stick his fingers in the pie like when he pushed Poch Levy’s way.

 

[danielneeds]

Jesus Christ, man. Think about all of our mental health before you post something like this. Just completely irresponsible, we're all on a knife's edge right now and oh-so fragile.

Just thank the lord that Martinez grifted his way into the Portugal job and Southgate decided to stay until the Euros. Dipshit Danny would have probably considered both.

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

Why isn't Brendan Rogers on the list?

Apparently has a personal hatred of cheese.

 

[olithfc]

Season is now set up for so much negativity if a manager isn't announced in the next ten games (even if they don't join us till next season).
Any sign of a poor performance and the pressure and toxic emotion in the stadium piles on Levy.

 

[spursfan77]

gonna be a long 10 games, woth this thread going through all sorts of rubbish

Everyone wants Nagelsmann now but I can bet by May when we haven’t appointed anyone he’ll be a distant memory and another favourite will emerge…….only to fade away until June and Julys panic.

 

[lami]

I'm sorry, but the non-opptomistic me is back!

Have we not learnt our lesson when it comes to hiring big named managers? They don't fit our boards agenda.
Whats the point in hiring another big name like Nagalsmann or Poch when they won't be given the players that they expect?

Its quite clear that the majority of players bought by us are players sought out with minimal risk, players that can still be sold on for a decent price if they do not work out.

Yes Poch worked wonders with us last time round, but his stock is higher now, he's not going to accept that sort of environment this time round, he'll want better quality of players.

Naglesmann is who the majority of us would like, but so was Conte. I bet if you really look deep down, you know that it won't work out with Levy.

I would take Thomas Frank on a long term contract, he's at a similar kind of stature that Poch was when we first got him.
Premiership proven, works to a budget, sensible, well liked by the fans and good attractive football.

The optimistic version of me would go for;

Naglasmann
Poch
Frank

The realist in me would go for ;

Frank
Rodgers (urghhh)

 

[eViL]

What was with the clamour for Gallardo?

 

[theShiznit]

Why isn't Brendan Rogers on the list?

Because he looks like a drag queen who has just taken their wig off...

Always wanted Rogers and Steve Bruce.*


*To play ugly sisters in Cinderella.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Levy makes mistakes but he's not daft; this doom and gloom is understandable but you'd think we had a history of underwhelming appointments. The only one at the time that was seen as such was Nuno, and that was corrected pretty rapidly.

Mourinho and Conte were "proving we're a big club" managers (given that he was France manager, you could maybe argue Santini was this to a much lesser extent).
Jol, Ramos, 'Arry, AVB and Poch were us gambling on a manager continuing to over-achieve.
Hoddle was a club legend and Pleat/Sherwood were obviously temporary.

I think some fans (understandably, given the groundhog day feel) have lost sight of what a genuinely badly run club looks like - Mike Ashley appointed Pardew, McClaren and Bruce. Villa replaced Houllier with McLeish with Lambert. Everton hired Benitez and then Lampard. All of those were accompanied with slides down the table.

We lost Berbatov and Keane and within two years we were top four. We lost Modric and Bale and within a few years we were better than when we had them. The Nuno season ended with us finishing 4th. We'll be fine.

Berbatov/Carrick
Bale/Modric
Kane/Son
+ maybe 1 or 2 more in those eras

Who’s our next saviours?

 

[chrisd2k]

Hasn't Rui Braz been through as many managers as spurs in the same time frame?

Schmidt's predecessor only lasted half a season?

Benfica are in a great spot, doesn't tell the full story.

They have a vision that runs through top to bottom and select managers that fit into that. It's the way a DOF system is supposed to work not all this can we get the players this manager needs for specific roles. I'm sure there are some compromises with that but not many.

Managers come and go on the continent all the time and it doesn't really make much difference for the sides that are well run.

 

[chrisd2k]

An awful lot of if's, buts and maybe's in there mate. A club with a clear plan isn't waiting around for months hoping they get lucky and everything falls into place at other clubs first. They identify who they want and they get him or move on.

Surely we have realise where we are in the food chain though right? If we are looking at the top table for managerial appointments then they will want to see what else is available as we won't be on their priority list.

Of course we could go for a young a up and coming manager but Levy seems to go for the names first.

 

[Rosco1984]

Given the recent news about Emerson, if I'm a prospective manager I am absolutely not taking this job and starting right away. I'd sign the contract to start in the summer.

I disagree a winner with self confidence would want to start this season to have an extra 10 games to assess the players before the transfer window and also to have a head start in working with those he wanted to keep and wouldnt care what someone thinks if they dont get top 4.

 

[chrisd2k]

I really want Nagelsmann, but I suspect the next great Spurs manager will be someone the fans aren't that excited about when he's recruited.

And that's fine if he's the right guy. Most of those who are members of the church of Poch probably didn't want him when we hired him from Southampton

 

[chrisd2k]

Let’s not gloss over the fact that Nagelsmann is not just some kick your feet up hire. He’s a control freak who will want a massive upgrade in technical ability for his squad. He also will butt heads with Levy and probably want a new DoF. It isn’t just hiring Nagelsmann, there’s a shit ton of work needed at the management level to actually give him a path to success.

that’s why I’m apprehensive on JN.

Be honest with yourself, do you trust Levy?

that’s what I thought. Me neither.

Yes and no. He's worked with DOFs for his whole career. Continental managers all have so their control is somewhat limited

 

[spursn17]

Amorin would be the smart choice imo...believe also speaks good English,

 

[Timberwolf]

I disagree a winner with self confidence would want to start this season to have an extra 10 games to assess the players before the transfer window and also to have a head start in working with those he wanted to keep and wouldnt care what someone thinks if they dont get top 4.

Or a winner with self confidence might prefer to manage on their own terms and start with a full pre-season to effectively get their ideas across rather than being rushed into a club in a messy situation late in the season.

I can absolutely understand why many managers wouldn't want to be parachuted into Spurs right now and I don't think that means they lack confidence or ability. Could actually indicate the exact opposite, tbh.

 

[PrettyColors]

Yes and no. He's worked with DOFs for his whole career. Continental managers all have so their control is somewhat limited

We’ll 100% need to sack Paratici to appoint Nagelsmann, as well as agree on assurances and a shared vision for the club.

There’s also the fact that he butted heads with Bayern senior management a lot and seemed to feel aggrieved over their lack of coordination on transfers and squad-building.

The point is that he is no patsy who is just going to sign the contract and get on with it. He will need a lot of backroom changes and transfers to be successful.

 

[Hotspur33]

Ruben Amorim > Nagelsmann.

Fair enough

 

[DiVaio]

Typical Conte signing hahahaha leave off

Yes? You wont deny he prefers to sign order, more experienced players? He signed Godin and Kolarov at Inter as his centerback signings, both over 33.

 

[YB123]

"No but there would have been zero push from Levy to Conte to go all out for the FA Cup."

This is an assumption. Spun to fit your bias.

"Look at the statement. First sentence from Levy.

"We have 10 Premier League games remaining and we have a fight on our hands for a Champions League place"

Tells you everything about him, the club and the mentality."

It's the only thing we have left to play for. What's he supposed to say?

Jesus. You've spun this one as well.

Hahaha one of them I see.

Well usually he thanks the manager and staff when they leave firstly.

Secondly acknowledgement of the fans should come before, in my opinion.

Oh and here's one for you. HE SACKED A CUP WINNING MANAGER 5 DAYS BEFORE A CUP FINAL TO APPOINT A 29 YEAR OLD ROOKIE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO REST HIS 11 FOR A LEAGUE GAME!


"fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."