Next Manager Watch

[Duke of Northumberland]

I know we're all aboard the Levy is a rotten owner train at the moment but the hyperbole is off the scale and tiresome.
There's a chance, like when we chanced on Poch, things will align and we'll go through a better period. That's pretty much how it goes for most clubs. It's been a bad few years with poor managerial decisions, but the shortlist shows a new direction

Seriously, eh? Levy's an autocrat! he should hire a DoF. Levy's listening to the Board, and they all have different opinions! chaos! He should never have hired that DoF, which no-one in the media picked up was dodgy. There's no plan, because we haven't heard anything. The plan is rubbish and too systematic! How can we think about considering options and talking to them! Big clubs don't work like this, except Man Utd, and Chelsea, er....

its just constant campaign mode atm, which is what makes it tiresome on a forum.

 

[Oscar22]

Isn't that what you get out of such an interview??
Its certianly not a 10 minute phone call.

No one is suggesting they are exchanging CVs and talking about their past experience...

No, the CV bit was clearly a little tongue in cheek.

Interview wise it depends for me, if you have a clear plan as a club and have 2 or 3 potentials who fit in to that plan then of course you are going to discuss their ideas with them about how they make that happen.

Just for me we shouldn’t be holding 5,6…7 ‘interviews’ with people as to me that just suggests we have no plan and want to see which person gives us the best idea.

It should be us as the club with the idea, and way forward based on budgets etc, and then we go to a smaller cohort of managers and say how would you work with these confines.

At the moment, and from our recent past I just get the impression whichever manager has the most recognised name, or, tells Levy “yeah I can win with what you’ve got” will get the job. Interviewing a whole load of managers isn’t the way forward.

Just my opinion

 

[HoltbiusMac]

I’m not sure how so many people are opposed to an interview process? Surely sitting down with the prospective candidates and talking through what they think they would do with the current squad, what issues they have identified, how they would coach to fix that, what transfer targets (or more importantly what transfer process) they would want are all really important things to do? Particularly considering a number of the prospective candidates have never worked at a club of our size this seems pretty sensible. I agree that it shouldn’t be the case that we try and interview all seven of them but to get the top 3 in if they are open to coming that seems pretty good?
We’ve also just had two managers where their CV speaks for itself despite the fact that it clearly didn’t and whatever the process that lead to Nuno was an absolute mess so we should be doing our due diligence as much as possible.

 

[Jules77]

Still largely missing the point made. Yes, interviews or meetings will obviously take place with all candidates in time but the post suggested that Slot and Post were going to be interviewed next week . Unless, we hear that an approach has been made and permission given no way is that happening and won't until their team's season is over and then their club may well give permission. No issue with us having meetings with Poch, Enrique, Rodgers, Potter etc, totally different matter.

I agree with you, but anyone know the reason why clubs have this grip on contact with managers? In any other line of work, employees are able to go and interview without their company’s permission (or knowledge).

 

[carpediem991]

I agree with you, but anyone know the reason why clubs have this grip on contact with managers? In any other line of work, employees are able to go and interview without their company’s permission (or knowledge).

And stuff like this is also happening in football at times and should not shock anyone...

 

[TPdYID]

I agree with you, but anyone know the reason why clubs have this grip on contact with managers? In any other line of work, employees are able to go and interview without their company’s permission (or knowledge).

I would imagine a lot of it is to do with maintaining a relationship with fans and potential loyalty bonuses.

 

[jimbo]

I think some people are picturing an interview as a pre-filtered 'this is the project, these are the parameters' sort of process while others are picturing more of a no-filter 'so, tell me why you want the job' times seven sort of process. It reads to me as though what we do is more the latter and that's why it's unique in a bad way.

 

[Chimbo!]

Wouldn't surprise me as neither CEO appear to have a clue. Ourselves and Chelsea are without question the two most unstable clubs in the league right now.

I don’t follow why meeting and interviewing candidates is a bad thing to do? Companies do it for selecting their CEOS. It’s a good way to get to know someone and figure out if you can work together. Maybe calling it an interview is not quite right, but having a meeting to chat seems like a minimum requirement before hiring! Chelsea’s owners haven’t been in the industry long so an opportunity to ge to know multiple coaches seems like a good idea. Levy has made multiple bad managerial hires by headhunting (Ramos, Mourinho, Conte to an extent) so maybe it’s better if he takes a different approach.

 

[spursfan77]

I find it intriguing that the majority of spurs fans so it seems has Slot as the No1 choice now, despite most likely not being aware of him 3 months ago or feyenords progress this season. It’s like a study of human behaviour, the noise around a name increases and suddenly we all want that manager. I am less sold on him, not huge experience and only in one league, no experience of managing large budgets (insert spurs joke), potentially not going to be a name that attracts a player. He would be midway on a list for me

Slot won’t do for the match going fans. He’ll get turned on very quickly if results aren’t good. A household name at least will get a few matches. Poch will get a lot longer. People expect to win and/or be entertained now as we pay so much to go to games. The last 3 years and moving to the new stadium has understandably made patience very thin.

 

[JW72]

This kind of fake stat just perpetuates the 'Spursy' narrative:
We're not great but here's how we actually compare with others who haven't won for a while:

Newcastle, 43
Sunderland, 36
Wolves, 26
Tottenham, 23 (actual number)
Forest, 23 (won title more recently)
Leeds, 21 (won title more recently)
Villa, 20 (won title more recently)
Blackburn, 14 (won title in EPL era)

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I’m not sure how so many people are opposed to an interview process? Surely sitting down with the prospective candidates and talking through what they think they would do with the current squad, what issues they have identified, how they would coach to fix that, what transfer targets (or more importantly what transfer process) they would want are all really important things to do? Particularly considering a number of the prospective candidates have never worked at a club of our size this seems pretty sensible. I agree that it shouldn’t be the case that we try and interview all seven of them but to get the top 3 in if they are open to coming that seems pretty good?
We’ve also just had two managers where their CV speaks for itself despite the fact that it clearly didn’t and whatever the process that lead to Nuno was an absolute mess so we should be doing our due diligence as much as possible.

These are not important things when you believe Levy is the incarnation of satan and every decision he makes is to ensure THFC is burned to hell.

 

[spursfan77]

Working in german top flight football I can say its happening and its a bloody good thing to do. Tuchel spent a whole evening with the Bayern bosses to sort out if working together is making sense. And obviously you need to do that all the time, if the guy is in a job or not. If the candidates are in a job they might have a more restricted schedule and you come sometimes to them instead the other way around, but tell me a good reason why interviews should not take place, even if your research says this is a fit or not so much. Too much things to clarify in person. And you need to get a best possible feeling if you can work closely together with someone or not.

Fergie took Poch and Perez to lunch. Don’t tell me that wasn’t an interview or better known as tapping up our manager. All clubs do it.

 

[Trent Crimm]

Disagree, different world

Levy has sent invites to connect on LinkedIn to a few managers. Several have accepted and a few have declined.

he will inmail them next week and maybe like a few posts.

that’s where we are.

 

[wadewill]

Once again, this interviewing bollox shows how much we are run like a fucking investment bank and not a football club

Fuck ENIC, fuck ENIC to the hills

 

[EZSpur]

Slot won’t do for the match going fans. He’ll get turned on very quickly if results aren’t good. A household name at least will get a few matches. Poch will get a lot longer. People expect to win and/or be entertained now as we pay so much to go to games. The last 3 years and moving to the new stadium has understandably made patience very thin.

Exactly this! But the truth is we can't have our cake and eat it!
Someone like Slot really intrigues me and by all accounts he could be great - but we have to give him time!
It's one of our major downfalls, the speed at which we all turn on managers, coaching staff and players!

 

[carpediem991]

Yet BSODL club is still in full flow

Yet here we are, able to compete and compare ourselves with these kind of clubs. We have lost our sight on titles (real shame) as our priority over the last decade was top 4.
We have lost a few finals and semi finals where you can hardly blame the owners for that we have not won any of them.

Once again, I am not happy how the club is run right now and I am worried we make it hard for ourselves again, but get a grip ffs, we don't need to separate the fanbase in Levy-haters and lovers...

 

[n5yiddo]

Interviewing people is not a crime, but who is doing the interviewing and what are they looking for? Daniel seems to always wants a quick fix guaranteed top 4, not too much critique of what has happened before where he is held responsible, and more recently 'a proven winner'. Mourinho and Conte old school winners, and with the right ingredients then maybe.

But we don't have those ingredients. If someone were to say, I will not guarantee top 4 for at least 3 years, we'll develop the youth, get the brighton scouting system, get rid of the players we've hung on to for too long (at a massive loss) re-invest in great coaching and some younger players and have an attacking style that our fans will enjoy, then they'd probably not get a second interview. Should have happened pre-Mourinho. Then, even if it had only been moderately successful, whinging fans like me would have felt proud of what are club was trying to do without the need for a multi-billion dollar investment.

 

[Russ1201]

Yet here we are, able to compete and compare ourselves with these kind of clubs. We have lost our sight on titles (real shame) as priority over the last decade was top 4.
We have lost a few finals and semi finals where you can hardly blame the owners for that we have not won any of them.

Once again, I am not happy how the club is run right now and I am worried we make it hard for ourselves again, but get a grip ffs, we don't need to separate the fanbase in Levy-haters and lovers...

Just my opinion sorry you don't agree, but time for a change we are becoming a sporting and entertainment complex instead of s football club under ENIC.

 

[JCRD]

Lots of hysteria in this thread - lots of angst and lost of wanting the shiny new toy whenever a name crops up. Ive always maintained Poch and still do but im accepting this isnt happening, otherwise it would have happened. Then again, perhaps we just want to see who else is out there and shortlist them - which is perfectly understandable.

I personally dont want a Nagelsmann and Enrique et al - i mean the way some fans are going on - they will just be another 'oh we best back them we dont want to lose them, theyre too good for us' types - and I cant be dealing with that. The fact is, we are a fragmented club with a fragmented fan base and fragmented squad - need someone who will galvanise everyone and make us feel good about it. That for me, isnt a Slot and the other names out there.

That is just me but I also know that we gotta be patient with this and got to get this right.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Lots of hysteria in this thread club - lots of angst and lost of wanting the shiny new toy whenever a name crops up. Ive always maintained Poch and still do but im accepting this isnt happening, otherwise it would have happened. Then again, perhaps we just want to see who else is out there and shortlist them - which is perfectly understandable.

I personally dont want a Nagelsmann and Enrique et al - i mean the way some fans are going on - they will just be another 'oh we best back them we dont want to lose them, theyre too good for us' types - and I cant be dealing with that. The fact is, we are a fragmented club with a fragmented fan base and fragmented squad - need someone who will galvanise everyone and make us feel good about it. That for me, isnt a Slot and the other names out there.

That is just me but I also know that we gotta be patient with this and got to get this right.

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