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[Ghost Hardware]

I know I'm a bit biased, but doesn't matter how I see it, Gallardo always comes on top.

• Gallardo has what we liked about Poch (the football style, the sense of belonging with the team) and what we wanted from Mourinho & Conte but never got (titles). I don't see any of the other candidates with both this things. Maybe Luis Enrique, but it's hard to judge a manager when you have Messi, Suarez and Neymar in your team.
• Gallardo is also a manager that had to rebuild his team every single year. That meant that maybe half of the team that played the previous season, was part of the team in the next one. And that sometimes meant changing all of his tactics. All of this with a very tight budget. In his first season in charge of River, he bought only 1 player and gave every player at the club the chance to prove themselves. That resulted in 3 players that had been frozen by the previous manager, turning into key players. I have no doubt he could work wonders with the players we have.
• He's a great professional. I can't remember a manager that handles so well the media and is so well regarded by every player. He's a bit like Bielsa in this sense.
• He knows how to win big games, and he knows how to motivate his team. Even if his team is full of players that never won a thing. Whenever there was a make or brake game, you always knew the team was going to be show up. All of this elimination games agains River's fierce rival Boca, Gallardo's team was extremely focused and motivated from the first minute. If you watch both games of the Libertadores finals you can understand what I mean. That cup win is as if we won against Arsenal in the Champions League final.

The jump between the league in Argentina and the PL is shorter that most think. Games there are very intense. And it's not like we are talking about a manager from the Malaysian league. It's the league from the current WC champions. 2 of WC winners were raised by Gallardo in River and played for River only 4 months before the WC. And they are both now in the PL and had no problem adapting. I'm talking about Julian Alvarez and Enzo Fernandez.

I honestly don't know how he's not even in contention and someone like Kompany is.

Excellent post and I agree completely. I honestly can’t understand why we aren’t seriously considering him especially when looking at the names we are.

 

[Albertbarich]

I wonder if Gallardo has an unannounced job already.

Kinda reminds of when we were all wondering why nobody was going for Alvarez last summer .

 

[spurs9]

I wonder if Gallardo has an unannounced job already.

Kinda reminds of when we were all wondering why nobody was going for Alvarez last summer .

City announced the Alvarez signing in January (he was loaned to River until the summer), so I've no idea why people would be surprised no one was going for him last summer.

 

[Albertbarich]

City announced the Alvarez signing in January (he was loaned to River until the summer), so I've no idea why people would be surprised no one was going for him last summer.

I'm probably misremembering it then. I just recall a time that people were talking about going in for him and wondering about why he was there and then suddenly he was announced for them.

 

[Trent Crimm]

Are Kompany’s ideas his own or Pep’s?

How would we know this? Neural tests? Brain scan ? Ffs. Sometimes.

 

[HedgieSpur]

I know I'm a bit biased, but doesn't matter how I see it, Gallardo always comes on top.

• Gallardo has what we liked about Poch (the football style, the sense of belonging with the team) and what we wanted from Mourinho & Conte but never got (titles). I don't see any of the other candidates with both this things. Maybe Luis Enrique, but it's hard to judge a manager when you have Messi, Suarez and Neymar in your team.
• Gallardo is also a manager that had to rebuild his team every single year. That meant that maybe half of the team that played the previous season, was part of the team in the next one. And that sometimes meant changing all of his tactics. All of this with a very tight budget. In his first season in charge of River, he bought only 1 player and gave every player at the club the chance to prove themselves. That resulted in 3 players that had been frozen by the previous manager, turning into key players. I have no doubt he could work wonders with the players we have.
• He's a great professional. I can't remember a manager that handles so well the media and is so well regarded by every player. He's a bit like Bielsa in this sense.
• He knows how to win big games, and he knows how to motivate his team. Even if his team is full of players that never won a thing. Whenever there was a make or brake game, you always knew the team was going to show up. All of this elimination games agains River's fierce rival Boca, Gallardo's team was extremely focused and motivated from the first minute. If you watch both games of the Libertadores finals you can understand what I mean. That cup win is as if we won against Arsenal in the Champions League final.

The jump between the league in Argentina and the PL is shorter that most think. Games there are very intense. And it's not like we are talking about a manager from the Malaysian league. It's the league from the current WC champions. 2 of WC winners were raised by Gallardo in River and played for River only 4 months before the WC. And they are both now in the PL and had no problem adapting. I'm talking about Julian Alvarez and Enzo Fernandez.

I honestly don't know how he's not even in contention and someone like Kompany is.

I cant fathom why he isnt close to being towards the top of our list, other than ignorance/ineptitude from the Board

 

[Pochemon94]

I'm probably misremembering it then. I just recall a time that people were talking about going in for him and wondering about why he was there and then suddenly he was announced for them.

it was pre january that weirdly no one was in for him then the city deal was announced

 

[Pochemon94]

I cant fathom why he isnt close to being towards the top of our list, other than ignorance/ineptitude from the Board

i think someone said it was because he "hasn't had a season in europe" and he doesn't speak english well, the same prob ten hag had as its all about the interview with Levy

 

[ButchCassidy]

i think someone said it was because he "hasn't had a season in europe" and he doesn't speak english well, the same prob ten hag had as its all about the interview with Levy

I don’t actually know how well Gallardo and his staff speak English - if it’s not well then I think that’s at least a fair concern. We need much more than just new tactical ideas, our dressing room need tons and tons of work after the damage wrought by the last few years. There’s some who need mental rebuilding, others who may need put in their place, perhaps a few who need kicked to the curb, cliques that need stamping out, comfortable players who need unseating, a culture and a collective purpose that needs put together effectively from scratch, and all this while implementing a new brand of football and showing results and progress fast enough to keep the fickle fans at bay. It’s a big task, and unfamiliarity with the language can make all of those things a significantly larger challenge, and amplify the risk of the squad losing hope and giving up on yet another manager.

 

[Beefyboy]

i think someone said it was because he "hasn't had a season in europe" and he doesn't speak english well, the same prob ten hag had as its all about the interview with Levy

Ten Haag had got to a UCL semifinal tbf and had lots of experience of European football.

I don't want gallardo at all personally. If it was the last manager hunt and there weren't many good options then absolutely. But this time round there are loads of good attacking ones who we have at least seen within the context of European football. And European football *is* very different to South American, just go and look at some of the pitches they play on. It's a world away.

And I literally can't think of a single example of a big club air dropping a manager whos made their name in the South American league straight into the hot seat with no European experience. I can't think of it ever happening let alone being a big success.

 

[spurs9]

Ten Haag had got to a UCL semifinal tbf and had lots of experience of European football.

I don't want gallardo at all personally. If it was the last manager hunt and there weren't many good options then absolutely. But this time round there are loads of good attacking ones who we have at least seen within the context of European football. And European football *is* very different to South American, just go and look at some of the pitches they play on. It's a world away.

And I literally can't think of a single example of a big club air dropping a manager whos made their name in the South American league straight into the hot seat with no European experience. I can't think of it ever happening let alone being a big success.

Diego Simeone & Gerardo Martino. Neither where anywhere near as successful in SA as Gallardo.

 

[DenverSpur]

I was on board the Kompany train weeks ago

That’s a long train journey . I hope it has sleeper carriages.

 

[Beefyboy]

Diego Simeone & Gerardo Martino. Neither where anywhere near as successful in SA as Gallardo.

Dont think either of them are good examples. Diego Simeone had a 16 year playing career in Europe, and then had 3 different manager gigs in Europe before he got the Athleti gig (Racing club in la liga, then Catania in Serie A, then back to Racing club) he wasn't air dropped straight from Argentina into a big European team. He's not really relevant here.

Martino wasn't particularly great at Barca and left after 1 season. He now describes it as the worst year of his life. He only won the league cup with one of the greatest club teams of all time (peak messi, neymar, xavi, busquets, fabregas, alves etc) For reference, Enrique came in the year after and immediately won the treble. By a lot of accounts the fans hated the football and he only really got the gig due to Messi pushing for it.

If anything I think Martino is an argument against Gallardo as a manager really out of his depth.

 

[spurs9]

Dont think either of them are good examples. Diego Simeone had a 16 year playing career in Europe, and then had 3 different manager gigs in Europe before he got the Athleti gig (Racing club in la liga, then Catania in Serie A, then back to Racing club) he wasn't air dropped straight from Argentina into a big European team. He's not really relevant here.

Martino wasn't particularly great at Barca and left after 1 season. He now describes it as the worst year of his life. He only won the league cup with one of the greatest club teams of all time (peak messi, neymar, xavi, busquets, fabregas, alves etc) For reference, Enrique came in the year after and immediately won the treble. By a lot of accounts the fans hated the football and he only really got the gig due to Messi pushing for it.

If anything I think Martino is an argument against Gallardo as a manager really out of his depth.

Racing Club are an Argentine team, didn't realise he managed in Serie A but it was just half a season. I doubt half a season in Serie A made a huge difference.

Martino may not have been amazing, but he finished 2nd due to drawing with the team that finished 1st on last game of the season, won a cup and got to the quarter finals of the champions league, hardly a disaster.

Neither manager is an argument for or against Gallardo because they are completely different people, just like Felix Magath being a failure had no bearing on Klopp.

 

[teok]

I know I'm a bit biased, but doesn't matter how I see it, Gallardo always comes on top.

• Gallardo has what we liked about Poch (the football style, the sense of belonging with the team) and what we wanted from Mourinho & Conte but never got (titles). I don't see any of the other candidates with both this things. Maybe Luis Enrique, but it's hard to judge a manager when you have Messi, Suarez and Neymar in your team.
• Gallardo is also a manager that had to rebuild his team every single year. That meant that maybe half of the team that played the previous season, was part of the team in the next one. And that sometimes meant changing all of his tactics. All of this with a very tight budget. In his first season in charge of River, he bought only 1 player and gave every player at the club the chance to prove themselves. That resulted in 3 players that had been frozen by the previous manager, turning into key players. I have no doubt he could work wonders with the players we have.
• He's a great professional. I can't remember a manager that handles so well the media and is so well regarded by every player. He's a bit like Bielsa in this sense.
• He knows how to win big games, and he knows how to motivate his team. Even if his team is full of players that never won a thing. Whenever there was a make or brake game, you always knew the team was going to show up. All of this elimination games agains River's fierce rival Boca, Gallardo's team was extremely focused and motivated from the first minute. If you watch both games of the Libertadores finals you can understand what I mean. That cup win is as if we won against Arsenal in the Champions League final.

The jump between the league in Argentina and the PL is shorter that most think. Games there are very intense. And it's not like we are talking about a manager from the Malaysian league. It's the league from the current WC champions. 2 of WC winners were raised by Gallardo in River and played for River only 4 months before the WC. And they are both now in the PL and had no problem adapting. I'm talking about Julian Alvarez and Enzo Fernandez.

I honestly don't know how he's not even in contention and someone like Kompany is.

Do you know how good his english is?

 

[Trix]

But this is Levy and god knows he's not the brightest in regards to football.

Lol. You say that as if the fan base doesn't call for change way before Levy pulls the trigger.

Yes Levy needs to give the next guy time, but the supporters even more so. They are just as culpable and far more impatient as a collective.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Excellent post and I agree completely. I honestly can’t understand why we aren’t seriously considering him especially when looking at the names we are.

That's about par for the course for our manager recruitment

 

[LukaKranjcar]

The job Unai Emery is doing at Villa has to put him in the conversation at this point surely?

 

[spursfan77]

Lol. You say that as if the fan base doesn't call for change way before Levy pulls the trigger.

Yes Levy needs to give the next guy time, but the supporters even more so. They are just as culpable and far more impatient as a collective.

I keep going back to the Marseille game at home. The atmosphere before the game in the stadium was amazing, as it was for the first twenty minutes but the team just sat back and ended up playing on the edge of our box or deeper and it just cut the atmosphere flat. Everyone thought, why should we bother if the team don’t want to push on. It’s human nature.

Fans will get behind the next guy if he can coach a team to show attacking intent from the first whistle and keep it up. We saw the atmosphere immediately change yesterday in the stadium when we went to a back four and push forward for goals. The same will happen for the new bloke if he gets us playing on the front foot. If he does that it won’t take long for him to be loved. It’s just how it is.

 

[DOX]

ENIC & Levy have unquestionably taken Tottenham to new heights financially, with their state-of-the-art stadium and training facility, etc. But ... But their GLARING tone-deafness and total lack of accountability in MOST sporting aspects have left the club in a precarious position. The irredeemable mistake of sacking Poch, instead of backing him serves as a prime example. While there's a call for #PochBack, which I mostly support (especially, in a nostalgic sense) it won't magically undo the incompetence of ENIC’s past decisions ... even though, he’s magic.

The Bournemouth game EXCRUCIATINGLY highlighted the (in)human impact of this mismanagement. Fans, disconnected, discouraged ... EXASPERATED ... directed their WRATH towards big, ol’ Dave, who left in tears ... Seeing a grown man like that is a new low ... low ... point. There's a f*cking real person behind the jersey!

Spurs are now in a situation where damage control is the only way forward. Even if ENIC get 95% of their next decisions right, the club still has a long way to go.

A complete reboot is essential, Levy & co must go all out to get a progressive head coach unafraid to give youth a chance ... implementing an expansive brand of football, focusing on possession and playing on the front foot.