Next Manager Watch

[Hercules]

We won't end up with Mason this summer so calm down.
For the record I don't say that because he is no good, I say it because he is still too inexperienced for a club like ours. I'll go on to say that I think he will become a very good coach and it will be interesting to see how well he does and if he reaches the standard of a top premier league side, personally I think he has it in him but it's a tough gig.

He is in there

 

[robertgoulet]

We won't end up with Mason this summer so calm down.
For the record I don't say that because he is no good, I say it because he is still too inexperienced for a club like ours. I'll go on to say that I think he will become a very good coach and it will be interesting to see how well he does and if he reaches the standard of a top premier league side, personally I think he has it in him but it's a tough gig.

I was skeptical about his ability after his post-Jose job, but he's clearly grown much more comfortable since then. If we were able to get JN in I'd love for Mason to stick on the staff just to see time under a "progressive" manager, then head out to the Championship to get some real experience. I think he's got a bright future ahead of him.

For right now, though, I think you have to try to get JN and if he declines you take Slot and move forward.

 

[Johnny J]

He is in there

If Levy appoints Mason it's a massive gamble. He's got no experience in some aspects of the role. If he has a really bad start we could easily be in the same position as when we got rid of Nuno. And we likely wouldn't have many options mid-season.

I like Mason. He's Spurs through and through. He might be a good manager in time. But this job is too soon IMO.

 

[CanadaSpurs]

He is in there

Not surprised. Just from a relationship perspective, they have to at least let him make the pitch given what he’s done for the club the last few years.

He will likely lose out, but if it’s JN what can he really say? Then up to him whether to stick around and learn more or strike out under his own name.

 

[Timberwolf]

There's some positive behind-the-scenes stuff about Mason in the latest View From the Lane pod which made the idea of appointing him slightly more palatable: he's full of ideas, popular behind the scenes, a champion of the youth set-up, proper Spurs, etc.

Still think it's just way, way too risky, though. Second he slips up it will be "can't believe Levy appointed a novice when we could've got Nagelsmann/Slot/Poch". Plus we'd be watching him learn to manage at the highest level in real-time: he's bound to make a ton of errors, the stakes are high and Levy's got a very itchy trigger finger.

Feel like there are just too many ways it could backfire, even if he's got a lot of potential and good will behind him.

 

[THE SPURSBOY]

He is in there

Well if he’s on the shortlist we’re a fucking mess

 

[CanadaSpurs]

Well if he’s on the shortlist we’re a fucking mess

Totally disagree. If they want to keep him in the org (and they appear to), what kind of a message does it send to him if he’s done the job twice now, has shown clear improvement over the last guy, but you refuse to give him a chance to win over the board?

He’s not longer that young, JN is only four years older and has already been sacked from Bayern. If he’s just given a pat on the head and sent to the back of the line again, I’m sure he walks (and he should!).

TO be clear, I don’t want him to get the job, and don’t think he will. But including him in the process was inevitable, in my view, and should not be taken as an indictment of the process.

 

[cruise 99]

Yeah I suppose, and it makes sense for him I’m just not totally convinced JN really wants the job as his top priority

Also, I’m just a Slot Slut

Can you slot drop. That is the question ?

 

[THE SPURSBOY]

Totally disagree. If they want to keep him in the org (and they appear to), what kind of a message does it send to him if he’s done the job twice now, has shown clear improvement over the last guy, but you refuse to give him a chance to win over the board?

He’s not longer that young, JN is only four years older and has already been sacked from Bayern. If he’s just given a pat on the head and sent to the back of the line again, I’m sure he walks (and he should!).

What’s mason done to get it apart from be the only coaching member left. I take it you didn’t see the first half’s against Newcastle and united and Liverpool but let’s give him a chance. We’re only the 9th richest or biggest whatever it is club in Europe. But let’s give mason a chance (when there’s all the other options out there) because he’ll get upset and walk ffs. Are we gonna act like the club we portray we wanna be !

 

[Jamturk]

I really like the way he dropped Dier and Perisic, no mates rates with the Mase.

My opinion of him tripled with this action alone.

 

[CanadaSpurs]

What’s mason done to get it apart from be the only coaching member left. I take it you didn’t see the first half’s against Newcastle and united and Liverpool but let’s give him a chance. We’re only the 9th richest or biggest whatever it is club in Europe. But let’s give mason a chance (when there’s all the other options out there) because he’ll get upset and walk ffs. Are we gonna act like the club we portray we wanna be !

I’m quite sure Stellini was in charge at Newcastle.

As was clear from the edit to my post, I don’t think he should have the job. But they clearly like him and want him in the organization. They have to let him make his pitch. I see nothing wrong with that, at all.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

There's some positive behind-the-scenes stuff about Mason in the latest View From the Lane pod which made the idea of appointing him slightly more palatable: he's full of ideas, popular behind the scenes, a champion of the youth set-up, proper Spurs, etc.

Still think it's just way, way too risky, though. Second he slips up it will be "can't believe Levy appointed a novice when we could've got Nagelsmann/Slot/Poch". Plus we'd be watching him learn to manage at the highest level in real-time: he's bound to make a ton of errors, the stakes are high and Levy's got a very itchy trigger finger.

Feel like there are just too many ways it could backfire, even if he's got a lot of potential and good will behind him.

Nailed it, good summary

 

[McFlash]

What’s mason done to get it apart from be the only coaching member left. I take it you didn’t see the first half’s against Newcastle and united and Liverpool but let’s give him a chance. We’re only the 9th richest or biggest whatever it is club in Europe. But let’s give mason a chance (when there’s all the other options out there) because he’ll get upset and walk ffs. Are we gonna act like the club we portray we wanna be !

Maybe because we don't know what he's like behind the scenes?
For all we know he's super impressive, brimming with new and innovative ideas and the players love him.
There's many a reason to understand why he may be in the picture and whether that's a good idea, none of us really know.

I don't particularly think we should go with him but if he's showing things behind the scenes that we aren't privy to, I don't think he should be immediately discounted.

He's looked creative in his three matches so far, not afraid to drop regulars and change things up.
Let's see where we go in these last few matches and get a more balanced idea of where he is.

Let's face it, he's faced Ten Hag, Klopp and the vastly experience Hodgson so far and had competed admirably against their much more experience.

 

[Albertbarich]

I think Mason has tons of potential and if he got the job I'd be behind him but whilst Julien Nagelsmann is available and willing to listen you have to go all out to get him.

If we can't get Nagelsmann and I think we will as others have pointed out there isn't really anywhere else for him to go, but if we can't then we look at Slot, Mason and hopefully De Zerbi.

But as time goes on I really think the current plan is to get a DOF and then Nagelsmann and in praying they pull it off.

 

[Phil_2.0]

I wouldn't mind sticking with Mason if there was a scenario where the right target wasn't available.

Tottenham might need a full rebuild and the priority might not be getting the best coach.

If we decide that the priority is to sell 10-15 players that will take more than 1 window. It might be the right idea to have Mason do the best with what he has and let him coach while we nuke the squad. Then go for someone A-star next year.

I know thats not nice and setting up a young coach to fail isnt good but we might have to be ruthless to set the club back on the right course.

Next summer with expectations lower, a smaller squad with some youngsters around might be a better foundation for the top coach we want to deal with instead of this fucking mess of a squad thats too big and has no value in it

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

He is in there

Rightly so that he should be considered as part of the ‘interview process’, Mason ticks a lot of boxes however regardless of too inexperienced or not, the issue for me would be that if he was given the job and started off badly then the fans might turn fairly quickly and the narrative would be “Levy could’ve got Naglesman or Slot and he made a huge mistake going for Mason and now we are half way through the season and the pool of available managers is terrible compared to last summer”.

So FOR THAT REASON as the dragons on the den would say ‘I’m out’ re. mason.

But I do think people just blindly dismissing him entirely are at times being a little OTT with their posts and looking past some real positives that he’d bring to the role, now or hopefully in a few years time:
•Knows the clubs culture/DNA
•Would focus on promoting and developing youth players which is important to us having an identity
•Would look to implement a possession based high intensity attractive style of play which the fans and players would enjoy
•The players respect and like him
•He’s a very positive character
•He’s shown he can motivate the group well and so far has already shown he’s good tactically
•He loves the club and would do anything to help the club succeed so the job would never be a stepping stone for him
•He’s very good friends with Kane

But yea for me although he deserves to be ‘considered’ and ‘on the list’, I don’t think this is the right time for him to be given the job, but of course if he did end up getting it I imagine the club and fans would get fully fully behind it.

 

[Guntz]

Would people take Mason if it meant Kane signed a new contract?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I wouldn't mind sticking with Mason if there was a scenario where the right target wasn't available.

Tottenham might need a full rebuild and the priority might not be getting the best coach.

If we decide that the priority is to sell 10-15 players that will take more than 1 window. It might be the right idea to have Mason do the best with what he has and let him coach while we nuke the squad. Then go for someone A-star next year.

I know thats not nice and setting up a young coach to fail isnt good but we might have to be ruthless to set the club back on the right course.

Next summer with expectations lower, a smaller squad with some youngsters around might be a better foundation for the top coach we want to deal with instead of this fucking mess of a squad thats too big and has no value in it

No way we wait another summer to get the right coach, so many top names and good fit coaches available right now that would be a very strange and imo poor decision from the club.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Would people take Mason if it meant Kane signed a new contract?

That’s a great shout mate isn’t it, I know some will say we shouldn’t bow to Kane but if he thinks right I’ll stay here my whole career if they give my mate the job because I fully fully believe that he has what it takes to build tottenham back to where they should be, in the culture and style they should play and in the right way to win a trophy, if so it would certainly be tempting wouldn’t it, if say by us getting Naglesman or Slot Kane would say he would see out his contract.

 

[max cady]

Mason, it’s just to early for him. Maybe learn the tricks of the trade first. Remember he was around with Mou, Nuno and Conte and may have picked up some tidy bits but imo not enough to be given the job. Yes he’s there but possibly as a fall back if JN & AS say no