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wrd

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Nail on the head.

Yeah I feel like finally accepting that me making a judgement on who the best manager is a waste of time allows me to focus on how we make the decision (and my posts on the subject) and I think it makes things far more interesting and hopefully helps the conversation go somewhere else than usual.
 

McFlash

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I agree that “unanimous view” is completely over egging it. I’d say that there were a fair few though and the reasons given didn’t really seem very credible to me. We even had a couple of posters saying we should have a Slot/Mason combo.

All in all, I think Mason would do well cutting his teeth lower down the ladder. Big Dunc has humbled himself after years at Everton to do the same and manage at Forest Green… no reason why Ryan shouldn’t do the same.
Yeah, I think Mase needs to fly the nest and prove himself in the lower league but then, I can also see that a season or two working alongside someone like Slot could benefit him too.
He's still incredibly young, so time is on his side. Maybe it would be good for him to spend another couple of years as a no.2 before branching out on his own?

He's got plenty of time to gain experience as it is far too early for him to be considered for the top job, as inviting as the idea of a fairytale may be sometimes.
He does appear to have the potential to be successful eventually but he's still got a lot to learn.
 

Timberwolf

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I'm quite excited for Slot.

Sounds like a very smart bloke with huge ambition who has massively overachieved with 2 pretty limited teams.

He speaks great English, comes across well and has progressive modern methods. I don't buy that he's some Dutch throw back - if you watch Feyenoord and read about how he manages behind the scenes it's all quite exciting stuff.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-feyenoord-manager-shoestring-premier-league/

Always a bit of a crap shoot with managers, and I think he's gonna struggle with our slew of wing backs and imbalanced squad (much more suited to Nagelsmann) but I think if we give him time and support he'll do a decent job and make watching Spurs fun again.
 

wrd

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He's magic you know ✨️ 😪

Seeing as Emery has been brought up recently, this isn't Potter specific but I'm curious about how important it is to appoint managers who in the lead up to the job have been successful, as I'd argue that Emery is a good example of a manager who had a bad experience and learnt from it.

So if I'm on the committee of appointing a manager and interviewing people, I'd consider managers who previously shown themselves to be a good fit who aren't the flavour of the month and I'd be curious on their thoughts and response to that failure and whether they show that they're capable of adapting to difficult moments and set backs and taking responsibility. Not saying I'd appoint them on that but more that I think we often make the error of missing out on managers based on recent events rather than context and adaption and the potential to grow into a top manager from it.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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My first thought is always one of “what could the players and the manager have done better”.

I look at the performance in objective terms and then assess how I think we did based on the context of the game.

On all measures today, Mason flunked imo. That is said with no glee but with a genuine concern for how badly he performed today.

We cannot blame him for trying his best and falling short but we should question the idea that he is remotely ready to manage us.

I see no problem with that and cannot fathom why this has caused such consternation among some posters.

I'm completely confused by it.

Is it that controversial to say Mason's a good guy, but at 31 maybe not ready to manage a top 10-15 profile / turnover club in world football?

In his first ever job as no.1? Really?
 

PCozzie

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I'm quite excited for Slot.

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Sounds like a very smart bloke with huge ambition who has massively overachieved with 2 pretty limited teams.

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He speaks great English, comes across well and has progressive modern methods. I don't buy that he's some Dutch throw back - if you watch Feyenoord and read about how he manages behind the scenes it's all quite exciting stuff.

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I think if we give him time and support he'll do a decent job.

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Mackan110

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It would be amazing if someone was able to read Levys mind. Whom is it he blames the past 20 years because it's obvious he doesn't see himself as the problem.

My guess is it will be Mason as our next manager because we fail to qualify for any European tournament this year so we have to save money. And we will get Lo celso, ndombele, rodon and spence back for next season so it won't be needed to spend any money, and this will be OK for Mason...
 

Timberwolf

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I'm completely confused by it.

Is it that controversial to say Mason's a good guy, but at 31 maybe not ready to manage a top 10-15 profile / turnover club in world football?

In his first ever job as no.1? Really?
I think about 90-95% of the forum don't think Mason's ready but every 5 pages or so one of the other 5-10% who think he's worth a punt posts something like:

"Let's just give the job to Mase. He's proper Spurs and knows the squad. Gives me good vibes."

...and then the other 95% respond saying why they think it's a bad idea (guilty as charged).

And the cycle continues ad nauseum.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Our squad needs a huge overhaul any way and let’s be honest hardly anyone uses wingbacks but you can get away with it with playing a CM3 who are cleaver, mobile and have good ball ability ( see ya Højbjerg ).

It does - but we need to add fewer players to function properly in a Wing Backs system.

Udogie goes from being a starter in a 352 to a massive risk learning a back 4. He's not defensively aware of runners at all.

We have 5 LWBs on our books and we'd probably still need to buy a LB. That's nuts! Who is going to buy these players?

Could Porro be repurposed as a winger? Why spend £40m+ on a specialist RWB then take a punt on a new position?

Why give ourselves more problems?

A flexible coach who can play 352 hybrid for a year or two whilst we do our business would be a much softer landing, which is why JN made so much sense.

It just takes this club SO long to move on players.

Once the squad players twig they're not in the plans they start causing trouble. Then a bad run of form and they start thinking about outlasting the manager again.

Maybe Slot will surprise me with the system. Or we'll do better out of the CL and EL. Slim down the squad and promote some youth would be fun.

I really hope we know what we're doing.
 

Phil_2.0

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So So So excited we are not going for Pochettino and he's going to one of our rivals.

Looking forward to welcoming Brendan Rodgers as our manager. What a club we are :/
 

spuradik

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I for one will not be looking forward to any manager. For as long as Levy is at the helm nothing will change.

Forget supporting the manager, I am done supporting this club - or should I say ENIC FC.
 

Timberwolf

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I know it's all relative but...c'mon.

Saints got relegated today and Everton or Leicester could be following them soon.

It's pretty grim being a spurs fan atm but christ, the way some people talk on here you'd think we were nearing a 2nd successive relegation or Levy was getting us liquidated.
 

curlacious

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I'm quite excited for Slot.

Sounds like a very smart bloke with huge ambition who has massively overachieved with 2 pretty limited teams.

He speaks great English, comes across well and has progressive modern methods. I don't buy that he's some Dutch throw back - if you watch Feyenoord and read about how he manages behind the scenes it's all quite exciting stuff.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-feyenoord-manager-shoestring-premier-league/

Always a bit of a crap shoot with managers, and I think he's gonna struggle with our slew of wing backs and imbalanced squad (much more suited to Nagelsmann) but I think if we give him time and support he'll do a decent job and make watching Spurs fun again.
This is an exciting article, thanks for sharing - Slot might be what we're looking for, a progressive, innovative young manager on an upward swing.
 
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