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[GetSpurredOn]

I've got a funny feeling Slot might sign a new deal at Feyenoord...

I have this sneaking suspicion you are right. I think we may push our luck with Slot and he’ll walk away.
We’ll then be left to either go back cap in hand to Nagelsmann with a new DoF in place and agree to all his demands even if they are unrealistic and Levy ultimately defaults on those commitments, or else it’ll be Potter or Rogers with their “PL experience” rolled out as why they got the gig….. obviously nothing to do with us upsetting everyone else, and these two being free and wanting redemption.

 

[superted4]

love him saying dont take a small photo as its just a win. Hate the photo faze in the dressing room to celebrate mediocrity

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Just me that isn't *that* impressed with this? It's just a normal, calm manager speech, nothing special. I like Slot and he seems like a good guy but not sure that video shows anything particularly inspiring or charismatic.

What were you expecting? Left his team in no doubt of his expectations of them and what he wanted whilst they were away. Team talks are mainly fluff, the real inspirational stuff is done one to one and on the training pitch

 

[felmani26]

Just me that isn't *that* impressed with this? It's just a normal, calm manager speech, nothing special. I like Slot and he seems like a good guy but not sure that video shows anything particularly inspiring or charismatic.

Give me a manager who can calmly and succintly convey the message across as opposed to your "fucking come on!" types.

I'm also sure there's plenty of instances he's given them a bollocking too just not on camera.

 

[mil1lion]

in that He was one of the players Poch got rid of?

In that when Poch arrived and changed the culture of the club Mason was one of the ones who bought in. We offloaded those who didn't like Adebayor and Ekotto. Once all the pieces came together Mason was then sold because he wasn't at the required level due to the quality we had in midfield. I think he could be good for a similar transition. Ideally we would keep him for next season while we rebuild the culture again, then let him go get a 1st choice job elsewhere next year. That's from a completely selfish perspective but as long as we keep him well paid its a win win all round. I really think Mason as number 2 and Kane as captain for next season could really help Slot rebuild the lost values of the club. Then they can both sail off into the sunset and fingers crossed we'll be set for the long run at last.

 

[lami]

Alternatively, our full backs could just be coached to fit the system. Crazy that we’ve got in the mindset that our players either fit a system or they don't

Did you see Porro when he played at RB, Destiny is a bit like Alexander-Trent, really good at going forward, but very average defending.
Sessengon can't walk through the players tunnel with getting injured.
Your comment co-insides with Slot observations. It would take at least a season to try and retrain a player into a new position. So if we don't buy any new "proper" FBs and stick with what we have, the new manager (Slot example) would have a shaky defence, probably resulting in him being sacked after 6-8 months.

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

I've got a funny feeling Slot might sign a new deal at Feyenoord...

I have a strong feeling of the complete opposite.
If we really want him we’ll get him.

 

[lami]

I think its obvious Slot will be told to work with what hes got, and maybe the odd signing once we have sold a few (if we can sell them)

I reckon our transfer will already be decided. Two of whom will no doubt be Maddison and Ward-Prowes.
We'll probably also sniff around Walker-Peters.
Levy will see them as he did the Richarlson deal, cheap (compared to others in position)and cheerful.

 

[Marantz]

So Slot is the plot. Happy if it goes through.

 

[KingNick]

Did you see Porro when he played at RB, Destiny is a bit like Alexander-Trent, really good at going forward, but very average defending.
Sessengon can't walk through the players tunnel with getting injured.
Your comment co-insides with Slot observations. It would take at least a season to try and retrain a player into a new position. So if we don't buy any new "proper" FBs and stick with what we have, the new manager (Slot example) would have a shaky defence, probably resulting in him being sacked after 6-8 months.

Is it just the one or two recent games you have seen Porro playing at full back that you are basing your whole opinion?
Have you seen the profile and roles Slot has for his full backs?

 

[Mark_147]

Is it just the one or two recent games you have seen Porro playing at full back that you are basing your whole opinion?
Have you seen the profile and roles Slot has for his full backs?

Any other games you can think of when porro has played RB?

 

[Cavehillspur]

That's a shame. He seemed like a big character and someone who'd command respect in the dressing room. Got to admire his love for Feyenoord, though.

Could see some of our lot running to Daniel if he upset them though.

 

[Viking78]

He had a different assistant at AZ

Marino Pusic was his assistant at AZ and he also joined Slot at Feyenoord. They have two assistant coaches which is slightly odd.
I think Dirk Kuyt may have also joined the coaching staff recently after he was sacked by ADO den Haag.

 

[lami]

Is it just the one or two recent games you have seen Porro playing at full back that you are basing your whole opinion?
Have you seen the profile and roles Slot has for his full backs?

I'm not looking to argue the point, im merely pointing out that we don't have the players to suit Slots current style.
4231 requires a solid back line to both attack and defend.
The point i was making is that he'd more likely be given the sack before coaching players to play in different positions.

 

[HoltbiusMac]

Did you see Porro when he played at RB, Destiny is a bit like Alexander-Trent, really good at going forward, but very average defending.
Sessengon can't walk through the players tunnel with getting injured.
Your comment co-insides with Slot observations. It would take at least a season to try and retrain a player into a new position. So if we don't buy any new "proper" FBs and stick with what we have, the new manager (Slot example) would have a shaky defence, probably resulting in him being sacked after 6-8 months.

Always think the use of TAA in these examples is a bit misleading. Yes he’s better at attacking than he is defending but he’s better in a way that he’s an absolutely elite passer of the ball. His crossing always gets the plaudits but he’s so useful in helping Liverpool build up and switch play as well. That’s not Udogie or even Porro really. Udogie is more similar to Matt Doherty in that his instincts in the box are great and his movement to get to the box are great too but whereas TAA (and similarly Zinchenko and Trippier) basically give you another midfielder Udogie won’t do that. Porro might to an extent as he’s got some great passing even outside of his crossing but needs to be calmer in possession even putting aside the fact he gets robbed of the ball. Yes both players can be coached to be better but I think both of their base level skills will need them to be accommodated either with wonky full-backs - which fortunately we have in Davies and Emerson or playing as wing backs. I’d be very, very surprised if we see either Udogie or Porro turn into the type of players Rose and Walker were. Doesn’t meant they can’t be good but they’re specialist players.

Circling back to how they would work under Slot I wouldn’t be shocked to see him try a back five but with a higher press. No idea if that will work but I think our squad means you have to try it. Also wouldn’t shock me if he tried Porro at right wing - he fits that role pretty well for how Slot has used wingers at Feyenoord.

 

[newbie]

It's also crazy to believe all managers only have one formation of play.

so true and we need a manager that can get the best out of our squad, but having a squad unsuited to a manager is a story we have seen for the last 5 or 6 years!

lets hope for patience and backing for the manager and the right director of football!

 

[KingNick]

Any other games you can think of when porro has played RB?

Yes, half his career. It’s why Pep signed him as a potential full back in his system (why is similar to Slots preferred system)

 

[homer hotspur]

I have this sneaking suspicion you are right. I think we may push our luck with Slot and he’ll walk away.
We’ll then be left to either go back cap in hand to Nagelsmann with a new DoF in place and agree to all his demands even if they are unrealistic and Levy ultimately defaults on those commitments, or else it’ll be Potter or Rogers with their “PL experience” rolled out as why they got the gig….. obviously nothing to do with us upsetting everyone else, and these two being free and wanting redemption.

I think Rodgers, Potter, Postecoglu, and Enrique would all accept the offer and will be our back up ( press in case of emergency) options and Mason of course. I think Enrique would be the most depressing outcome as it signals a continuation of previous failure.

 

[newbie]

I'm not looking to argue the point, im merely pointing out that we don't have the players to suit Slots current style.
4231 requires a solid back line to both attack and defend.
The point i was making is that he'd more likely be given the sack before coaching players to play in different positions.

we could sign a defencive mid and 2 decent CBs? give the guys a chance?

ok i need to be realistic

 

[KingNick]

I'm not looking to argue the point, im merely pointing out that we don't have the players to suit Slots current style.
4231 requires a solid back line to both attack and defend.
The point i was making is that he'd more likely be given the sack before coaching players to play in different positions.

You don’t want to argue but you want to make statements which just aren’t true, as anyone who knows about Slot’s system appreciates.