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Bluto Blutarsky

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Tbh I’m not sure I buy all of that.

Rodgers is by no means my first choice BUT if we couldn’t get and/or the following Managers didn’t want to move, then Rodgers ticks the PL experience box, his teams play good to watch football generally and he’s over performed for 2 seasons everywhere he’s been before then it fizzling out.

If we can’t for whatever reason get any of : JN, Poch, De Zerbi, Slot, Ange.P, Kompany, then Rodgers comes under that next bracket of Managers and if we got him and he convinced Maddison and Barnes for example and we signed a GK and CB, we could start to look half decent.

As I said, Rodgers by no means my first choice but the stick he gets on here making out he’s useless imo is ridiculous, he’s a very very good football manager and has proved that everywhere he’s been for the most part.

When you are on your 7th or 8th choice for manager, things have gone very wrong.

And I don't disagree with your description of Rodgers. If we had hired Rodgers instead of Mourinho, for example, it might have worked. That was a team with good players just entering their prime, and a few tweaks, and maybe that was a team that could contend for trophies. But, now, we have an aging core, that needs either significant investment, or a complete rebuild. I don't think Rodgers is a manager for either of those scenarios. He is not going to get more from the existing players - and I don't think Levy is prepared to invest in what the squad needs to make one last run with Kane/Son.
 

robertgoulet

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When you are on your 7th or 8th choice for manager, things have gone very wrong.

And I don't disagree with your description of Rodgers. If we had hired Rodgers instead of Mourinho, for example, it might have worked. That was a team with good players just entering their prime, and a few tweaks, and maybe that was a team that could contend for trophies. But, now, we have an aging core, that needs either significant investment, or a complete rebuild. I don't think Rodgers is a manager for either of those scenarios. He is not going to get more from the existing players - and I don't think Levy is prepared to invest in what the squad needs to make one last run with Kane/Son.
Especially when your first 2 choices weren’t outright not interested. Both had interest. Circus.
 

jebratt

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As bad as we all feel right now, there is still an opportunity for Levy and the board to act rather prodigiously and lock in Nagelsmann along with his choice of DoF so that we can begin to have some semblance of a proper football structure. Apart from his incompetence and short-sightedness, I think the main reason why we need to be concerned about Levy at this moment in time is that he may very well prefer to hire someone who will simply serve as a "yes man" and agree to whatever he and the board wish to do which, in my view, is a mistake as we need a strong-willed individual who has a definite strategy and plan that aligns with the "DNA" of the club.
 

jebratt

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The other thing that is quite disturbing is that I genuinely feel that we are at crossroads and have the opportunity to hit the "reset" button in such a way as to ensure future success...This might mean selling off (or getting rid of) some players who are simply not part of the project, but it appears Levy and the board are in denial and believe that a few small tweaks here and there will place us in back in contention when what is truly needed is a complete rebuild headed by individuals who are truly knowledgeable about football and know what it takes to build a successful team as opposed to Levy and the board who are indecisive, insecure, and incompetent in several key areas.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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When you are on your 7th or 8th choice for manager, things have gone very wrong.

And I don't disagree with your description of Rodgers. If we had hired Rodgers instead of Mourinho, for example, it might have worked. That was a team with good players just entering their prime, and a few tweaks, and maybe that was a team that could contend for trophies. But, now, we have an aging core, that needs either significant investment, or a complete rebuild. I don't think Rodgers is a manager for either of those scenarios. He is not going to get more from the existing players - and I don't think Levy is prepared to invest in what the squad needs to make one last run with Kane/Son.
Agree with all of that mate
 

Fidget

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At this point I am not sure I would not rather have Rogers.
- knows the league
- successfully managed clubs at least the size of Spurs
- can play reasonable football

He may not be many first choices but if you are looking for someone who won't be out of their depth, would probably want to be here and, won't be heading off to Madrid if the opportunity arose, I am not sure who would be better.

I doubt the fanbase would be thrilled, mind, but a solid sensible choice would be a change.
We are out of our own depth!
 

Jospur

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You can indeed run a football club just based on numbers. What you can't do is run a successful one.
But Levy’s decision to fire Conte when he did and replace him with second-raters has (arguably) cost the Club millions in lost revenue because of lack of Europa or Champions League football next season. Crystal Palace replaced their coach late in the season - and what a difference that change has made! Levy is incompetent. And it’s costing the Club millions in lost revenue.
 

TommyGee

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Not a fan of hiring Rodgers simply because I can’t see us fully committing to the much needed clear out and rebuild we desperately need.

Rodgers feels like a safe stop-gap and I can’t see Levy being fully invested in the rebuild as he would under a more genuine project with what Nagelsmann or Slot would have been.
 

rossdapep

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Tbh I’m not sure I buy all of that.

Rodgers is by no means my first choice BUT if we couldn’t get and/or the following Managers didn’t want to move, then Rodgers ticks the PL experience box, his teams play good to watch football generally and he’s over performed for 2 seasons everywhere he’s been before then it fizzling out.

If we can’t for whatever reason get any of : JN, Poch, De Zerbi, Slot, Ange.P, Kompany, then Rodgers comes under that next bracket of Managers and if we got him and he convinced Maddison and Barnes for example and we signed a GK and CB, we could start to look half decent.

As I said, Rodgers by no means my first choice but the stick he gets on here making out he’s useless imo is ridiculous, he’s a very very good football manager and has proved that everywhere he’s been for the most part.
Rodgers is partly responsible for Leicester's plight.

He started falling out with the squad after the Forest game in the FA Cup last year.

He should have walked away because he was clearly just waiting to pick up his severance package yet he completely ran out of ideas - which he always does.

Also, once he gets his fins right into a club's recruitment he totally messes it up.

Data analysts warned against signing players like Vestergaard because they showed he'd struggle in his system.

Rodgers went around them - and I think they may have quit too? He also benched Soncku and Leicester fans say he was their best defender.

He spent the last 8 or so months of his tenure doing absolutely nothing to arrest the slide.

Maybe he'll get us clicking for a year but give it time and people will start to turn on him and it'll be a spectacular fall off like weve just seen with Conte.

Amorim would have much more longevity
 

ButchCassidy

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But Levy’s decision to fire Conte when he did and replace him with second-raters has (arguably) cost the Club millions in lost revenue because of lack of Europa or Champions League football next season. Crystal Palace replaced their coach late in the season - and what a difference that change has made! Levy is incompetent. And it’s costing the Club millions in lost revenue.
Not in any way a defense of Levy - but - I thought it was pretty clear that Conte fucked off to Italy and had no intention of coming back. If anything it completely blindsided us that he wasn’t interested in seeing out the disappointing season.
 

SPURSLIFE

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I said on here last week I didn't expect Slot or JN to take the job or any decent manager mainly because they would want what Levy doesn't want to give and I believed that he would give the job to Rodgers, somebody he has always liked and has tried to get on a couple of occasions. I still think Rodgers will be our next manager and I fully expect him to be gone within a year or 18 months tops and then it starts all over again.
 
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