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sandros kung fu kick

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For anybody that thinks Ali G is a mouth piece for the club, he goes in pretty harsh on levy etc in the latest gold and guest talk Tottenham. Doesn’t understand what’s going on with Tottenham at the minute.

He thinks we should go all in for Nagglesman.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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In what way, I don't know much about him, and I don't subscribe to the "its a shit league" rhetoric pedalled about about some managers and where they come from.
Hi mate, I made this post a few weeks back explaining all of my reasoning (y)
I’d honestly have Postecoglou as my top target ahead of Slot, purely because I believe he is the most sure fire option we’ve been linked to (outside nagelsmann).

He’s prob the most unfashionable pick being from the SPL, and some people will hold the fact that he’s Australian against him. But tactically he’s fantastic and more importantly has had many years of experience to fine tune his tactics and also how he trains people to achieve those tactics.

As you noted, he’s a fantastic character and the players will take to him instantly and will definitely bring back a unity amongst the players that hasn’t been there for years.

With his character aswell, I’m sure he’ll turn the fans that are against him to his side in no time at all. I can remember Nuno winning over fans with a simple “we will make you proud” despite being the most dull manager we’ve ever had. Ange on the other hand is as big and likeable a character as you’ll find. Even more so than Martin Jol was.

He is incredibly highly regarded by the mega successful City Football Group from his time working for them, to the point where those in the know at Celtic fear that Ange would be one of Man City’s first phone-calls if Pep were ever to leave.

His early management style was moulded by a certain Ferenc Puskas, who was his last manager from his playing days. It was from him he became obsessed with all out attacking football, and has categorically refused to setup a team defensively ever since.

This has led to him getting a few hefty beatings in the champions league against the likes of Real Madrid, but his vigour to stand by his philosophy has to be respected.

It was while working as a manager for the City Football Group then that he was thought the ways of Pep football and he started to adjust his tactics to take some key philosophies off of Pep and implement them into his own, such as deploying inverted full backs.

Over the last decade, every club he has gone to he has been super successful if not dominant. His time managing Australia’s National team was very impressive. He’s obsessed with furthering his knowledge of managing constantly. He takes part in weekly video chats with some of the other leading Australian managers from other sports such as rugby, where they all share their ideas.

Apologies for the mega long post, but I’ve seen an awful lot of people be very disparaging about Postecoglou. And I truly feel if any of them took the time to properly look into him and his background, that their opinions would change drastically!
 

the stick man

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Not going for Poch is still one of the most confusing sporting decisions I've ever seen. In any sport.

It makes absolutely zero sense. Went for him 2 years ago, now it's completely out of the question?

No clue what's going on at Spurs right now.
Sadly, I don’t think those that run the club have a clue either. Day 61…
 

Trix

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For anybody that thinks Ali G is a mouth piece for the club, he goes in pretty harsh on levy etc in the latest gold and guest talk Tottenham. Doesn’t understand what’s going on with Tottenham at the minute.

He thinks we should go all in for Nagglesman.
I thought we'd cleared this up. Mouthpiece is the wrong word but he's definitely fed information the club wants out there. The Nagelsmann denial for example. That doesn't mean he won't or can't relay his own feelings as well.
 

dtxspurs

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Sadly, I don’t think those that run the club have a clue either. Day 61…
That's pretty clear at this point. Even the Nagelsman stuff is weird.

Club was supposedly turned off by him wanting to help pick the DOF and wanted to do that before the manager.

But were going to appoint Slot and didn't have a favorite for DOF.

Every story contradicts itself.
 

tommo84

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At this point I believe nobody, trust nobody, everything is a smokescreen, info fed to club trusted journos is for some social media experiment and data capture. Dancing bananas are really cucumbers, all whilst we're a clown show, and being laughed at in all quarters more than Chelsea are for being 12th and maybe finishing 14th.

We seem to say it a lot lately, which is very worrying, but in the context of where we find ourselves this really is the most important appointment Tottenham will make to date.
I actually don’t agree with the last part because I’ve reached the conclusion it’s all pretty hopeless at the club as long as Levy is holding the reins and purse strings.

In my opinion now nothing will really change until we’ve had a pretty big brush with relegation - and as I’ve said last night I don’t think we currently have the character in the squad to survive a relegation battle. The best we can hope for in the short term is some more entertaining football, and that is fucking depressing.
 

Metalhead

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Well the point is Nagelsmann and technically speaking Poch are available. The next best but more risky would be Gallardo or Slot ( now off the table). Either remaining 3 would be exciting enough for me. There's some good other options but it's still sad to see them now being acceptable for people. It shouldn't be acceptable. It's not whether they are decent managers, it's that in comparison to who we could have that's the issue. Like are people really happy to take Ange or Potter instead of Nagelsmann?
I see what you mean. I suppose. I can only imagine that the board thought that Nagelsmann was too high maintenance - not that this is a defence but based on their recent track record, they obviously want someone more compliant.
 

Metalhead

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I thought we'd cleared this up. Mouthpiece is the wrong word but he's definitely fed information the club wants out there. The Nagelsmann denial for example. That doesn't mean he won't or can't relay his own feelings as well.
He's said as much in his YouTube videos.
 

specspurs

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I actually don’t agree with the last part because I’ve reached the conclusion it’s all pretty hopeless at the club as long as Levy is holding the reins and purse strings.

In my opinion now nothing will really change until we’ve had a pretty big brush with relegation - and as I’ve said last night I don’t think we currently have the character in the squad to survive a relegation battle. The best we can hope for in the short term is some more entertaining football, and that is fucking depressing.
I don't know if it's just me, but I keep having this nagging thought that Levy actually wants us to fail, relegate even, so this leaves the 'entertainment' venue and the rest of company as the prime focus of the business and pushes the difficult effort and journey to build a successful football team to the background.
Surely someone with the purported intelligence of Levy can see how his toxicity and incompetence is making Spurs not only a laughing stock but a club where no decent manager or DOF wants to go.
I guess this could just be a fanciful and nonsense thought that passes through my mind, but somehow, I can't seem to dismiss it completely.
 

Daredevil

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I think we need to change our outlook on here.

If Levy hires a manager that ends up being a huge disaster, then really he's used up his last chance to get things right.

So from that perspective he'll only have a remaining 37 last chances to get thing's right and we'll be ever closer to the finish line.
I read this as…

“If Levy hires a manager, that ends up being a huge disaster…”

Hard to argue with.
 

RJR1949

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Some great points from Mason in today's presser, I hope he and Kane etc are making these points abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.

How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?


Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.
Where Mason is so right is that getting the right manager is necessary but not sufficient to bring the club success.

Unless the club is aligned around a clear strategy and set of principles that bring together playing style and recruitment, any manager, no matter what their previous record is, will fail.

Let’s hope the penny has dropped with Levy.
 

spursfan77

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For anybody that thinks Ali G is a mouth piece for the club, he goes in pretty harsh on levy etc in the latest gold and guest talk Tottenham. Doesn’t understand what’s going on with Tottenham at the minute.

He thinks we should go all in for Nagglesman.

Maybe we will when the German season ends and the payment clause due falls away. He costs less to hire then unless I’ve made that up.
 
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