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[Oh Teddy Teddy]

I think you are both underestimating the league in Argentina and don’t appreciate the pressure of being the manager of River Plate

Perhaps – though he only won the league once in all his years there. And I think there's probably a lot of underestimating going on in this thread.

River Plate's current captain is 42-year-old Martin Demichelis so, again, I'm not massively convinced his success in the country screams he's the right man for the Spurs job if the same is applied to the likes of Arne Slot, Ange Postecoglou etc.

 

[lobob8]

Nagelsmann increasingly the only option for me. Ridiculous that we find ourselves in this position.

 

[BoringOldFan]

And what could be the reason for that?
Makes you wonder how we ever built the stadium?

Not at all. His degree is in economics and land management, so the minimum I expect is competency in property matters.

However, when it comes to sports administration, he is totally unqualified. As the evidence of recent events have shown.

 

[Deleted member 27855]

Are his cup wins in Argentina is that much more impressive than Ange winning cups in Australia, Japan and Scotland. We talk about other managers who’ve walked it in Scotland pre-Ange but take a look at the Copa Libertadores winning managers.

Surely it’s the exact same gamble..?

FWIW, I’d be very excited about Gallardo, just not sure there’s much difference between him,

Gallardo won two Copa Libertadores. That's hard. Did Ange have to walk with armed guards into opposition stadiums in the Champions League like Gallardo did?

Celtic was getting absolutely smoked in the Champions League because his teams have no clue how to defend. He'll get exposed here.

This isn't Celtic and we don't enjoy an absolutely massive talent gap over most of our competition like they do. Club shills keep using Pep and City as a comparison for his style when in reality I think we'll end up looking something more like Leeds if he's hired. Pep teams actually know how to defend unlike Ange.

I have no desire to watch Dollar Store Pep flounder around for 3 or 4 months until he's inevitably fired and we're back at square one all over agin.

 

[McFlash]

The more I see people hating on Postecoglu, the more I'm coming round to the idea of getting him!
I just can't help myself, it's like an ingrained instinct to back the underdog.

 

[McFlash]

Gallardo won two Copa Libertadores. That's hard. Did Ange have to walk with armed guards into opposition stadiums in the Champions League like Gallardo did?

Celtic was getting absolutely smoked in the Champions League because his teams have no clue how to defend. He'll get exposed here.

This isn't Celtic and we don't enjoy an absolutely massive talent gap over most of our competition like they do. Club shills keep using Pep and City as a comparison for his style when in reality I think we'll end up looking something more like Leeds if he's hired. Pep teams actually know how to defend unlike Ange.

I have no desire to watch Dollar Store Pep flounder around for 3 or 4 months until he's inevitably fired and we're back at square one all over agin.

Going by this, I'm not sure you quite understand the rivalry between Rangers and Celtic.
It's based on religion and politics and nothing creates more hatred and conflict than those two things combined!

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Gallardo won two Copa Libertadores. That's hard. Did Ange have to walk with armed guards into opposition stadiums in the Champions League like Gallardo did?

Celtic was getting absolutely smoked in the Champions League because his teams have no clue how to defend. He'll get exposed here.

This isn't Celtic and we don't enjoy an absolutely massive talent gap over most of our competition like they do. Club shills keep using Pep and City as a comparison for his style when in reality I think we'll end up looking something more like Leeds if he's hired. Pep teams actually know how to defend unlike Ange.

I have no desire to watch Dollar Store Pep flounder around for 3 or 4 months until he's inevitably fired and we're back at square one all over agin.

Won two Copa Libertadores? So did this guy – let's bring him in...

Celtic got smoked in the CL because his teams have no clue how to defend? Sure – wait til you see how De Zerbi got on in the CL playing the same way with Shakhtar (spoiler: didn't win a single game, lost to Sheriff). Now killing it in the Premier League.

The bit about the armed guards is pretty bad-ass, though.

Again, I'm not against this guy, but the logic and reasoning can be applied to pretty much every manager we're linked to. Would Ange be a gamble? Course, massively! But to pretend Gallardo wouldn't be is just wrong. Same with Slot; probably same with De Zerbi.

Which makes it more astoundingly maddening that we've just shrugged Nagelsmann off so completely, but...

 

[Spurzinho]

I really don’t quite get how people can be so anti-Ange if you’d been pro-Slot? Is it just spending time researching and talking yourself into Slot that Ange now seems awful?

They’re both coming from success at smaller leagues. Both of them are a massive tactical departure from Mourinho, Nuno and Conte. Neither of them have any experience in working in a club of Spurs size or of managing “superstar” players. Both are good at communicating with the press and seem to be good at using young players and working in a rebuild. They’re both highly rated within football circles.

For Slot’s higher level of competition you trade a relative lack of experience. Postecoglu has done it in more varied contexts but he’s taken a weird career path.

Postecoglu being 57 should hardly be a factor - not like he’s going to lose a yard of pace.

I understand preferring one or the other but I find people who are vehemently, spitting at the screen fuming about Postecoglu if they were happy about Slot quite confusing.

There's a huge difference. Feyenoord have won how many eredivisies? 5 in the last 50 years and 2 in the last 23. PSV & Ajax donimate that league so for Slot to get Feyenoord the title is highly impressive. I'd also suggest that AZ and Twente are no joke either. Ange won the league with Celtic when they faced next to no pressure from Rangers, who crumbled post Gerard, and the rest of the league are a joke, Hearts, Aberdeen & Hibs are nowhere near the level of even a poor Rangers team, let alone Celtic. I don't have an agenda against Ange at all but I think the jury is still completely out with him. His team can afford to look like 1970's Brazil because they don't have any defending to do.

 

[King of the Lane]

The one thing that is quite evident is our own fans ability to accept and convince ourselves that the next name down the list will be good for us.

We could get linked with Prince Andrew as our next Manager and someone on here will back the idea and try and convince everyone that he will be class as he "doesnt sweat' so that shows that he will be able to cope with the pressure.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

This thread is fantastic the last few days but it’s also interesting because quite a few of us have different info and insights and opinions on different options and I suppose that reflects where our board is at to an extent in that they don’t have a clear vision and philosophy and so it’s very difficult for them to pick a manager as a result, analysis paralysis so to speak.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

The one thing that is quite evident is our own fans ability to accept and convince ourselves that the next name down the list will be good for us.

We could get linked with Prince Andrew as our next Manager and someone on here will back the idea and try and convince everyone that he will be class as he "doesnt sweat' so that shows that he will be able to cope with the pressure.

He’s a big fan of a high pressing 4-2-3-1 I heard

 

[tottenhamlad]

Excuse my ignorance I see his name mentioned a lot.

Does Gallardo speak English?

 

[markt]

Big Ange, Graham Potter, Amorim or many other names being banded around.

I honestly don’t mind at this point. All I want is an end to this situation. I want us to announce a DOF/Head of recruitment, A manager and have a plan.

I want Munn, DOF and manager to have the same vision.

attacking front foot football and want to use a mix of youth
Academy with experience

I am happy to be patient with new manager.

100% get back to playing good football and a massive improvement in both our recruitment and developing academy players

Do this and the results will come. Our recruitment has been so diabolical this past 5-6 years. Whoever comes in as manager needs this addressing.

 

[ButchCassidy]

Big Ange would be a real risk, but two things I see in his favor:

1. He really does seem like a likeable guy that both the players and supporters could get behind. I think that’s important given the size of the mess he’d be dropped into, and it’s something that more or less all our previous successful managers have used in their favor.

2. By all accounts, it sounds like his devotion to attacking football is unflinching. This is a risk, given that he’s managed less than ten games in his career against teams with a PL-level defense. But it’s also a blessing in that we may actually know pretty early whether or not the experiment is going to work out. Where another manager might take a bad beating and become much more pragmatic, squeezing out barely passable results from more and more boring football, I think with AP we would double down, and sink or swim with the attack-minded philosophy. If it works it will be brilliant to watch; if it doesn’t, it might at least be entertaining and it won’t last very long.


Still, utter madness that we’re debating the merits of B and C-tier candidates when one of the most highly-rated project managers in Europe is sitting at home in Düsseldorf watching pornhub.

 

[Deleted member 27855]

Going by this, I'm not sure you quite understand the rivalry between Rangers and Celtic.
It's based on religion and politics and nothing creates more hatred and conflict than those two things combined!

I do and I know it gets heated. Copa Libratores in South America is absolutely insane though.

They had to move that one final off the continent entirely and over to Europe to avoid a war basically. It might have even been one of the cups Gallardo won but I can't remember without looking it up.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Still, utter madness that we’re debating the merits of B and C-tier candidates when one of the most highly-rated project managers in Europe is sitting at home in Düsseldorf watching pornhub.

Think we can probably all agree on this.

 

[Yiddo100]

Excuse my ignorance I see his name mentioned a lot.

Does Gallardo speak English?

Ah that takes me back a a month or so, when things were slightly more positive in here.
But yes I think he does, although probably limited.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Spent the afternoon with an old friend who’s a licensed coach and been at a number of clubs at a club presentation tonight, really knowledgeable

His opinion is always lovely to hear on football to be honest as he supports Afan Lido town he couldn’t give a fuck about the premier league however, he’s worked with people who have worked with or been within the same setup as two coaches of which are on our list.

still to this day he thinks potter is the future England manager and he will be the one to bring success to English football he’s adamant he got sold down the river at Chelsea as the squad was way to big for what he was trying to achieve and the bigger players didn’t buy into some of his methods they found him a bit odd as unlike the bigger managers he was trying to be over friendly.
However, if you are rebuilding and want to start off look at what he did out in Sweden build that club up from scratch and his style gets the max out of average footballers.

the problems at Chelsea were he has planned sessions but had too many players to carry them out, no matter what he did someone was upset and he got undermined hugely. Thinks he would do well here but it’s a huge risk as he’s lost confidence in himself

then onto Rodgers, excellent coach but he said he has a way of pissing people off players included however tactically he is apparently immense to stage of obsessive before games, also a very good man motivator but he’s very stubborn and once you cross him there’s no way back he can be quite sabotagist but he did say Rodgers would in his opinion would get spurs back playing the right way and we would potentially do well until he falls out with levy or the players.

Apparently a guy we have who’s with us Davies? Who was at man city is a next level coach who thinks outside the box as well he said a combination of him and someone less experienced could work well.

But he can’t understand why we aren’t looking at Marco Silva and that would be his choice as he thinks he suits the players we have now.

asked about ange and said he’s not heard anything about him in coaching circles really but everybody these days seems to just be raving about RDZ.

 

[McFlash]

I do and I know it gets heated. Copa Libratores in South America is absolutely insane though.

They had to move that one final off the continent entirely and over to Europe to avoid a war basically. It might have even been one of the cups Gallardo won but I can't remember without looking it up.

Yeah, that's true. South American footie does have possibly the best atmosphere (and most hostile feeling) in the world.
One of my mates was out there and went to a big game and came away in awe of the whole feel of the place.
Said it was like nothing he'd ever experienced but then, he's a West Ham fan!

 

[Aleks]

This thread is fantastic the last few days but it’s also interesting because quite a few of us have different info and insights and opinions on different options and I suppose that reflects where our board is at to an extent in that they don’t have a clear vision and philosophy and so it’s very difficult for them to pick a manager as a result, analysis paralysis so to speak.

Almost all of us would be happy with Nagelsmann