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Dillspur

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Interesting, he’d have been an intriguing option.

Realistically surely big Ange is a good bet right now.

I think L.Enrique will go to PSG or Napoli.

If not Big Ange or JN then I can see it being very underwhelming or just very disappointing… any one of something like: Potter, Rodgers, Glasner, Galatier. 😬

I know Ange has a few fans on here. But he would still be massively underwhelming.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I smell the faint smell of Rodgers incoming
Na I think it’s going to be a non PL experienced manager, some random name from Europe, just hope they play good football and can rebuild us.

I don’t mind it being an ‘underwhelming’ name, that could be good for us right now as long as it’s not one who plays boring football and/or is a boring personality as we need someone to list the club on and off the pitch simple as that.
 

mil1lion

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How easy is it for someone who only played football in Australia and who started his coaching in Australia to get themselves into the premier league? Could it be rather than being a late bloomer the pathway to top European jobs is pretty hard?
I don't know about that, I think if you're a really high quality manager then there would be opportunity to coach in one of the top leagues. From there you can build your way up.
Leeds took a shot on Marsch in his late 40s with only MLS experience. Ange is 57 now so I think there has to be serious concern there. You never know of course but it worries me.
 

Sjhawuk

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My cousin lives in Scotland and has been a Celtic season ticket holder for 15 ish years , he supports both spurs and Celtic, and says big ange is the best manager in his opinion they have ever had in personality and style of football and fan connection etc

he says even though He support spurs more then Celtic He doesnt want ange to leave because him and his mates love watching him every week live so much

also Celtic may play in and easy league but they are still a big club and have alot of fans and a lot more trophies then us and are expected to win every trophy, which means he will be use to dealing with pressure of which he will have a lot of with us

Although he’s not everyone’s top choice right now, we could do alot worse and are definitely not above him as soon are saying
 

agrdavidsfan

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Have a friend who works at Leicester City FC and is a Leicester fan. He accepts Rodgers did a great job initially but has a tendency to go against advice- transfers being one aspect he is criticised for, pursuing targets when he is advised against them (Vestergaard being an example). He said Rodgers had to go and tends to ride a wave before self sabotage as you rightly say here.
Basically exactly what I was told, him and levy would be a disaster as he literally demands players then strops.

Vestegaard and Soumare are two without trying he wanted along with Castange and Praet I think
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I know Ange has a few fans on here. But he would still be massively underwhelming.
Underwhelming generally as an option I disagree with if people actually know about him and his style of play etc, underwhelming compared to the options we could’ve in theory potentially had then I agree (assuming we could’ve got any of: Naglesmann, Slot, De Zerbi, Poch, Gallardo).
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Have a friend who works at Leicester City FC and is a Leicester fan. He accepts Rodgers did a great job initially but has a tendency to go against advice- transfers being one aspect he is criticised for, pursuing targets when he is advised against them (Vestergaard being an example). He said Rodgers had to go and tends to ride a wave before self sabotage as you rightly say here.
Hmm yea that doesn’t sound ideal at all.
 

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One name we haven’t really discussed in detail is Galtier who is rumoured to be leaving PSG…Could he be one of the top 2 on Herc’s list? If so, I would also find him a rather uninspiring and underwhelming choice when considering who else is available…
 

Dillspur

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Underwhelming generally as an option I disagree with if people actually know about him and his style of play etc, underwhelming compared to the options we could’ve in theory potentially had then I agree (assuming we could’ve got any of: Naglesmann, Slot, De Zerbi, Poch, Gallardo).

We're at the point in the search where we're WAY down our list and I think we're grasping at straws. A bit like Nuno, people we're saying how his Wolves team 2 seasons prior to taking the Spurs job were a good team and were punching above their weight and he was just unlucky with injuries (the season before taking the job)
 

dtxspurs

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Very very good style of play and personality, why not excited mate?

Tbh I don’t think we’ll get him but I hope we do. I think he’s next best fit after Slot (assuming we can’t get JN or De Zerbi).
The jump in competition is absolutely massive. Even more so than Slot.

Last coach to jump from Scotland to England and be a genuine success was who? Fergie? At 57 we're going to be the only team to uncover this gem of a manager?

In '21 lost to FC Midtjyllan so didn't qualify for champions league, didn't make it out of the group in Europa league giving up 15 goals in the group stage, then lost both legs against Bodo/Glimt to get knocked out first round in conference league.

Ange has absolutely cleaned up the Scottish league - as Celtic pretty much always do. I just don't see at all how he would be the man to right the ship and bring us back into top 4 contention.
 

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At this point I’d be content with Potter. I mentioned a while back when he wasn’t even sacked yet that he was just a cultural clash. A fan base and culture that demands instant success didn’t fit his style which can take a longer time to implement. I’d like to think he’d get more time here, although our fan base is just as toxic and entitled so who knows.

But he’s tactically flexible, likes his teams to dominate the ball and press, and his reputation is still definitely intact. His teams do create very specific and complex chances for the most part explaining xG underperformance (could criticize the coach for creating more difficult chances equally as the players for not converting), but we have the right players in this area to compensate. I don’t associate him with Chelsea like a Conte or Jose, and while Brighton have got better since he left, I’m not certain De Zerbi comes into a dysfunctional club and has this type of instant success. Potter would be in my opinion a buy low option definitely worth considering seriously, and he’d have something to prove.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Letting in 34 in 37 games is a huge concern of mine. Considering how atrocious the rest of the league is I think it’s a massive red flag.
It’s a high risk style of play, they’ve scored 114 goals!

Honestly not being rude here but I just feel like many on here haven’t actually watched Celtic play and don’t understand Big Ange’s tactics or personality etc and are just writing him off and saying it’s ‘underwhelming’ because he’s managing in the SPL.

Comparing him to Gerrard or Neil Lennon etc is so lazy.

Id have preferred Slot or JN but Big Ange would be probably a clear 3rd favourite for me of the names originally mentioned.

Id actually be presently surprised if it is Big Ange, I think we will end up with someone a lot worse than him.
 

WiganSpur

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Decent footy is a must. I think my preference list would now would be:

- Nagelsmann
- Gallardo
- Amorim
- Lopetegui
- Enrique
- Frank
- Postecoglou
- Graham Potter
- Marco Silva

I'm sure there's some i've missed. Considering the names above if we appoint Rodgers or Mason it's a disgrace.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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The jump in competition is absolutely massive. Even more so than Slot.

Last coach to jump from Scotland to England and be a genuine success was who? Fergie? At 57 we're going to be the only team to uncover this gem of a manager?

In '21 lost to FC Midtjyllan so didn't qualify for champions league, didn't make it out of the group in Europa league giving up 15 goals in the group stage, then lost both legs against Bodo/Glimt to get knocked out first round in conference league.

Ange has absolutely cleaned up the Scottish league - as Celtic pretty much always do. I just don't see at all how he would be the man to right the ship and bring us back into top 4 contention.
Fair mate completely entitled to your opinion and good counter points, I just have a feeling he’d be a really good fit for us and we could do a lot worse but tbh no one can ever say for sure exactly how any manager will fare, his style of play is gorgeous though and he’s a straight talking likeable guy so ticks two big boxes 📦 and he’s worked with Munn previously so just makes a lot of sense.

Who else of the other remaining options would you prefer then if you could pick 3 others assuming Nagglesman isn’t possible, Slot, De Zerbi and likely L.Enrique and Amorim are all off the table then would you prefer say Rodgers, Potter, T.Frank, Glasner, Galtier to big ange?
 
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