Next Manager Watch

[dtxspurs]

Fair mate completely entitled to your opinion and good counter points, I just have a feeling he’d be a really good fit for us and we could do a lot worse but tbh no one can ever say for sure exactly how any manager will fare, his style of play is gorgeous though and he’s a straight talking likeable guy so ticks two big boxes and he’s worked with Munn previously so just makes a lot of sense.

Who else of the other remaining options would you prefer then if you could pick 3 others assuming Nagglesman isn’t possible, Slot, De Zerbi and likely L.Enrique and Amorim are all off the table then would you prefer say Rodgers, Potter, T.Frank, Glasner, Galtier to big ange?

I'd probably go for Potter and just hope that the Chelsea piece was because that club is a disaster right now. Although trying a fourth Chelsea manager seems insane.

Idk - I think we're totally fucked unless we can convince Naglesmann honestly.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Decent footy is a must. I think my preference list would now would be:

- Nagelsmann
- Gallardo
- Amorim
- Lopetegui
- Enrique
- Frank
- Postecoglou
- Graham Potter
- Marco Silva

I'm sure there's some i've missed. Considering the names above if we appoint Rodgers or Mason it's a disgrace.

All nice options in different ways mate.

Herc saying Amorim now unlikely.

I don’t think it’ll be JN or Gallardo or L.Enrique.

T.Frank if he cut out the long throws I’d be intrigued by if he plays the way his team did in the championship they were very exciting and he’s a great positive personality, M.Silva as I’ve said gets rave reviews behind the scenes, Big Ange would be my n.o1, don’t think we’ll go for Potter, I like the way his teams play and Kane could gk ish the chances but I don’t like his personality he’s meek and boring and he’s another ex-Chelsea.

Lopetegui is interesting but not sure if his style of play is any good?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I'd probably go for Potter and just hope that the Chelsea piece was because that club is a disaster right now. Although trying a fourth Chelsea manager seems insane.

Idk - I think we're totally fucked unless we can convince Naglesmann honestly.

Yea I see equal pros and cons with potter and big ange but big ange way more likeable personality and great style of play so I could see him building something with our fans etc, Potter I can’t see that happening imo.

Agree JN is the one we should be getting with a DofF to suit.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We're at the point in the search where we're WAY down our list and I think we're grasping at straws. A bit like Nuno, people we're saying how his Wolves team 2 seasons prior to taking the Spurs job were a good team and were punching above their weight and he was just unlucky with injuries (the season before taking the job)

Tbh I never never for one minute thought Nuno was a good idea or fit and I think many others felt the same and knew it was a waste of time whereas if we couldn’t get Slot then I always thought Big Ange was the next closest thing assuming we can’t get JN and aren’t looking at Gallardo.

 

[Phil-spur99]

Decent footy is a must. I think my preference list would now would be:

- Nagelsmann
- Gallardo
- Amorim
- Lopetegui
- Enrique
- Frank
- Postecoglou
- Graham Potter
- Marco Silva

I'm sure there's some i've missed. Considering the names above if we appoint Rodgers or Mason it's a disgrace.

He seems to be a cult hero on here and there have been dissertations written about him but have we actually had links to Gallardo?

 

[soflapaul]

It is still JN. Gallardo as a consolation. too much risk with Ange although he could be phenomenal

 

[WiganSpur]

He seems to be a cult hero on here and there have been dissertations written about him but have we actually had links to Gallardo?

No, consensus seems to be massive risk but potential upside is enormous. Since anyone is a massive risk under Levy i'd say we should go for it and hope he's got some Poch magic about him.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Very very good style of play and personality, why not excited mate?

Tbh I don’t think we’ll get him but I hope we do. I think he’s next best fit after Slot (assuming we can’t get JN or De Zerbi).

I asked this the other day and nobody replied, but looking at targets we have been linked to why is Ange a better choice than Enrique? Not that I particularly want Enrique (and now he seems to other clubs interested) but out of the ones left, assuming Potter and Rodgers are the other options, he is probably on of, if not the, better option.

Also as a side question as you are a fan of Ange, I have read a number of reports in the last few weeks that although Ange has worked well with younger players that have been brought in he’s not particularly good at developing them. Would you say that’s accurate or not really true?

One thing that I have really disliked over recent years is how much our youth has been ignored by those in charge. For me that has to be a big prerequisite.

@dtxspurs made some really good points above re concerns. Personally I just don’t understand why we are putting ourselves into a position where Ange or Potter are the best option for us when we know for a fact there are better options available. That is my biggest issue, Ange might be the better choice than Rodgers or Frank but that doesn’t have to be the limit of our choices.

 

[SuperLuka]

Ange would have to get the fans on side really quickly somehow because if it starts bad next season it will get even more toxic.

Him being appointed won't settle the fans down at all.

Release a video - "we will make you proud"

 

[jebratt]

What makes Levy look rather schizophrenic is that he was seemingly willing to relinquish some power and control when he hired Paratici yet for some strange reason, he appears to be unwilling to continue this approach as he is showing no signs of even considering hiring someone like Rangnick or one of his disciples for the DoF role…Personally, I find this lack of consistency to be deeply troubling…

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I asked this the other day and nobody replied, but looking at targets we have been linked to why is Ange a better choice than Enrique? Not that I particularly want Enrique (and now he seems to other clubs interested) but out of the ones left, assuming Potter and Rodgers are the other options, he is probably on of, if not the, better option.

Also as a side question as you are a fan of Ange, I have read a number of reports in the last few weeks that although Ange has worked well with younger players that have been brought in he’s not particularly good at developing them. Would you say that’s accurate or not really true?

One thing that I have really disliked over recent years is how much our youth has been ignored by those in charge. For me that has to be a big prerequisite.

@dtxspurs made some really good points above re concerns. Personally I just don’t understand why we are putting ourselves into a position where Ange or Potter are the best option for us when we know for a fact there are better options available. That is my biggest issue, Ange might be the better choice than Rodgers or Frank but that doesn’t have to be the limit of our choices.

I think you’re bang on about L.Enrique and no reason why he shouldn’t be being considered if Big Ange is, only things for me would be that Big Ange’s personality a bit more likeable and he’d maybe be a bit better at galvanising the club and building a project but yea I like the idea of L.Enrique but I don’t think he’s been mentioned by our ITK’s or the media much and Napoli and PSG are keen on him.

Hmm good Q re. Younger players, he does use some, likes of (O’Riely, Jota, Abada, Turnbull, Bernabei) and some of them have improved a bit most because of the overall system that big ange has implemented.

I don’t think it should / would be put as a big mark against him, he doesn’t really favour older players so would be fine if he was told to develop younger ones. I agree with you in an ideal world our philosophy as a club should be to better bring through younger players more often again but tbh I think it’s wishing for too much, for me if the new manager just has the right footballing attacking philosophy that’ll be a start

Slot would’ve been really good for youth development as he’s done with Feyernoord since losing to many players last summer

I completely agree with you that in theory we could be appointing a better standard of manager than potter/frank/Rodgers/big ange but I think of those 4 he’s the best fit for what we need overall and also aside from Naglesmann, Slot and Gallardo who we either seemingly aren’t going for or can’t get then I don’t think there are many if any better options out there than say big ange.

L.Enrique or Amorim on paper slightly better but Herc says no to Amorim and his style of play is night and day no where near as exciting as big anges and as for L.Enrique if we wanted him surely that would’ve been done ages ago

What do you think mate?

 

[Bing]

If the concern with JN is that he wants a DOF he can work with and that's what's putting us off it seems mad to me.

Surely we should be picking the the DOF on that basis anyway.....

What would've been the alternative...JN and a DOF he does'nt want to work with?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

What makes Levy look rather schizophrenic is that he was seemingly willing to relinquish some power and control when he hired Paratici yet for some strange reason, he appears to be unwilling to continue this approach as he is showing no signs of even considering hiring someone like Rangnick or one of his disciples for the DoF role…Personally, I find this lack of consistency to be deeply troubling…

Not sure if not appointing Ragnick or one of his deciples is about not relinquishing power and more just the finances and football visions not aligning with levy’s which is a shame as JN & Ragnick etc is the no brainer option after Slot fell through.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I don't consider us "better than them" but I still don't want either.

Completely agree, we aren’t better than either of them that’s entitled and wrong thinking but as you say I also don’t want either of them, mostly because of their personalities, I just don’t think either of them would give the club the fresh lift it needs.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

One name we haven’t really discussed in detail is Galtier who is rumoured to be leaving PSG…Could he be one of the top 2 on Herc’s list? If so, I would also find him a rather uninspiring and underwhelming choice when considering who else is available…

There was some ITK about him a few weeks back, as I said at the time I absolutely hope it’s not him or Glasner both would be terrible terrible options simple as that.

Awful styles of play and just a bad fit.

 

[only1waddle]

How on earth can you not go for poch yet be interested in ange

Control.
Poch wouldn't come back for more of the same, he'd want some assurances which Levy isn't going to give.

 

[jebratt]

Not sure if not appointing Ragnick or one of his deciples is about not relinquishing power and more just the finances and football visions not aligning with levy’s which is a shame as JN & Ragnick etc is the no brainer option after Slot fell through.

I would like to agree but we have the finances to hire Rangnick or one of his disciples and I would argue that his vision of playing attacking football aligns with what allegedly Levy and the board are looking for…

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Should have clarified in that the original reports were regarding how we were looking for a younger Poch type of manager and that would certainly not fit that criteria.

It is funny, you’re spot on. One of the reasons mentioned by the press for us not going for Poch is that we were looking “the new Poch” yet now we want to bring in someone 6 years his senior. It was just a bullshit excuse. Whatever reason we had for not going for Poch it wasn’t about age.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I would like to agree but we have the finances to hire Rangnick or one of his disciples and I would argue that his vision of playing attacking football aligns with what allegedly Levy and the board are looking for…

Yea I know mate which is why it’s so weird that we aren’t going for this option especially considering Ragnick publically advocated JN and him or one of his people for the job, baffling.

 

[lobob8]

To sum up:

Names left that have been actually linked to us in order of preference: Nagelsmann, Ange, ...Potter? Literally who else?

Not happening: Amorim, Enrique, RDZ

Don't you dare Levy: Mason, Rodgers, Glasner, Galtier

Never been linked: Gallardo