Next Manager Watch

[soflapaul]

Damn it. Some of you fuckers are bringing me round to the idea of Enrique now. Which means he’ll sign for Napoli by teatime.

You’ve only yourselves to blame!

Don't give in. JN is still the answer with a solid DOF.

 

[dtxspurs]

For balance, there major benefits to him too

- Plays excellent possession based football that is purposeful and not mindless tiki taka
- Requires players who are technically very good and does not tolerate cloggers
- Promotes youth and very good at developing players (Celta Vigo)
- Has worked with tiny budgets and had a club punching well above its weight, while not compromising playing front foot football (Celta Vigo)
- Drives an excellent high performance culture
- Speaks very good English
- Very likable and affable character with a witty sense of humour

Im not suggesting he is perfect by any means but its good to balance out some of the rather hyperbolic narrative that some posters have been propagating

I'd certainly have him above Ange, Potter, Mason et al

Can we really take very much from his Celta job that was almost 10 years ago at this point? And he was only there for 1 season.

He finished 9th (their second season in La Liga) but the next manager came in and finished higher than that the next 2 seasons.

 

[Booney]

If you’ve got a spare bit of time and want to get a better understanding of Ange, I’d recommend this;



- how he relishes a “project” as it gives him an opportunity to bring in his own players and way of operating
-arrived at Celtic just “wanting the job” and not “asking for anything”
- the value he puts on personality above all other qualities in a player and how a bad attitude can be poisonous in the dressing room
- his managerial influences and emphasis on an attacking playing style
- the importance of just being a decent human being

If nothing else, it at least sounds like we’d be a likeable, coherent, motivated team who the fans could get behind and identify with. I’d take that right now.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

It's a poor choice imo. I'm not overly opposed to the tika taka style of football like some are, but there is a reason very few teams have used it for any length of time despite it being incredibly successful. You pretty much need a team full of highly technical players to do it well, and we are a long way from that. He is no different to Jose or Conte in the regard he will require an awful lot of specifics to pull that off and we know how that works out. There is no point bringing in another manager who will just be frustrated at not getting exactly what they need.

But that style is exactly what Kompany uses with Championship players and many on here wanted him. Kompany is from the same school as Pep. Also Enrique style is much more vertical and faster. Yes it has elements of Tiki Taka but it has different nuances. Not only that he has proved he can get lesser player’s playing it at Celta. If Enrique will need a large turn over of players to play his system then I’m sure Ange would as well and we should completely forget about Nagelsmann. If we want a manager who can play with less technically gifted players then Frank should be our number one choice.

Not that I want Frank or that I want Enrique, but most of the managers we have been looking at would need a certain level of technical player to play their system that we just don’t have currently. There are plenty of reasons to question Enrique’s suitability but the level of technicality within the team is not one that is exclusive to him and his system.

 

[KingNick]

My initial feelings are we don’t have the players to play the possession football but how often do players leave us and go on to prove that they are capable of more. Another example is Lewis Dunk at Brighton, no one thought he would be as good on the ball as he is. It is amazing what some movements from teammates, giving options, can do.

NB; This does not apply to Davinson Sanchez or Dier, both clearly not good enough

Exactly. If you pass and pass and pass all day every day in training, surprise surprise, you get more comfortable doing it, especially with a coach who coaches you to make the right passes (which are often the easiest).

 

[mil1lion]

Honestly would take Enrique with the options we're left with now. It doesn't sound like it will be him though.

 

[rossdapep]

Something to consider with both Enrique and Potter.

Both of them were working with teams (Spain, Brighton, Chelsea) WITHOUT a striker in the calibre as Kane.

 

[CookieYiddo]

Honestly would take Enrique with the options we're left with now. It doesn't sound like it will be him though.

He certainly isn't the worst option right now. I agree it could go much worse

 

[karennina]

If highly technical players is what you want...

Gil Kane Kulusevski
Bentancur Bissouma Lo Celso
Udogie Lenglet Romero Porro
Lloris replacement

...then we have accumulated enough of them for any tiki-taka (adjacent) manager to get started with

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

It's a poor choice imo. I'm not overly opposed to the tika taka style of football like some are, but there is a reason very few teams have used it for any length of time despite it being incredibly successful. You pretty much need a team full of highly technical players to do it well, and we are a long way from that. He is no different to Jose or Conte in the regard he will require an awful lot of specifics to pull that off and we know how that works out. There is no point bringing in another manager who will just be frustrated at not getting exactly what they need.

But he adapts quite a bit, no? He took the tiki-taka of Pep and made it much more direct. He changed the Spanish teams tactics and formations quite a bit, hes more pragmatic than the traditional tiki taka purists, in my opinion.

 

[freeeki]

Something to consider with both Enrique and Potter.

Both of them were working with teams (Spain, Brighton, Chelsea) WITHOUT a striker in the calibre as Kane.

Holy dogshit, tell me we’re not back on the Hogwarts Express to cack twatting bastard Potterland.

 

[Johnny J]

Something to consider with both Enrique and Potter.

Both of them were working with teams (Spain, Brighton, Chelsea) WITHOUT a striker in the calibre as Kane.

This Neal Maupay slander will not stand.

 

[wrd]

If you’ve got a spare bit of time and want to get a better understanding of Ange, I’d recommend this;



- how he relishes a “project” as it gives him an opportunity to bring in his own players and way of operating
-arrived at Celtic just “wanting the job” and not “asking for anything”
- the value he puts on personality above all other qualities in a player and how a bad attitude can be poisonous in the dressing room
- his managerial influences and emphasis on an attacking playing style
- the importance of just being a decent human being

If nothing else, it at least sounds like we’d be a likeable, coherent, motivated team who the fans could get behind and identify with. I’d take that right now.

I think two of the categories for judging a manager can be; Capability at this level and Do they fit into the Spurs way of doing things.

I think we've focused on the capability part too much and ignored the latter and to me with Slot now off the table, I feel Ange is without doubt the best choice looking purely at fitting into the spurs way of doing things and your bullet points reflect that. Mason does too but my word what a risk that would be. I don't think any of the other managers available come close to fitting the Spurs way of doing things. I'd love to see if Gallardo could, I'd be interested to see if Nagelsmann could but I'm certain Ange could. Then I think it would be about letting him develop his capability to do it at this level. I don't think he will come with the capability to do so but given time, I think he'd grow into it. I'd like to see that approach, I think a bit too much too early for Mason.

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

Not saying I agree or disagree but can you expand on what you mean by this/why you think this?

For me L.Enrique plays the type of football we'd like to see so I think there would be good alignment, he also said he's ready for a new longer-term project so he does kind of tick both of those boxes however from a personality perspective and overall I don't think he'd be as good a fit as say Slot would've been.

we're in a bit of a realignment, arent we? Mason keeps saying "we need to choose who we are" and establish what a Tottenham team looks like and what a Tottenham player looks like..hiring a coach with an established style and creating synergies throughout the club is step 1 in that process. We need to start somewhere.

 

[djhotspur]

If highly technical players is what you want...

Gil Kane Kulusevski
Bentancur Bissouma Lo Celso
Udogie Lenglet Romero Porro
Lloris replacement

...then we have accumulated enough of them for any tiki-taka (adjacent) manager to get started with

Throw in new signings like maddison, Laporte, raya too.

 

[zepstar]

I'm at the stage where genuinely anybody is fine, including Enrique, if it gets us out of this absolute hellish purgatory. I join others when I say it really doesn't matter who comes in because the situation will go the same way it always has. So, let's get on with it and appoint whoever the Board feel is the best coach for the job (if they're capable of doing that).

 

[Dillspur]

If you’ve got a spare bit of time and want to get a better understanding of Ange, I’d recommend this;



- how he relishes a “project” as it gives him an opportunity to bring in his own players and way of operating
-arrived at Celtic just “wanting the job” and not “asking for anything”
- the value he puts on personality above all other qualities in a player and how a bad attitude can be poisonous in the dressing room
- his managerial influences and emphasis on an attacking playing style
- the importance of just being a decent human being

If nothing else, it at least sounds like we’d be a likeable, coherent, motivated team who the fans could get behind and identify with. I’d take that right now.

Rules us out then

 

[rossdapep]

Holy dogshit, tell me we’re not back on the Hogwarts Express to cack twatting bastard Potterland.

Haha no I'm not. I am just trying to add some thought to every possibility.

 

[Tucker]

Holy dogshit, tell me we’re not back on the Hogwarts Express to cack twatting bastard Potterland.

There have been no credible links so far from what I can tell.

 

[Yantino]

I'm at the stage where genuinely anybody is fine, including Enrique, if it gets us out of this absolute hellish purgatory. I join others when I say it really doesn't matter who comes in because the situation will go the same way it always has. So, let's get on with it and appoint whoever the Board feel is the best coach for the job (if they're capable of doing that).

It's not that it doesn't matter (I don't want Rodgers for example), i just think it's less important what their pedigree is and more important is how they fit and work with the club and what they will bring in terms of building an identity and style.