Next Manager Watch

[Reece_Spurs]

I literally cannot get excited about any new manager whilst Levy is in charge, I just can't.

I know Conte wasn't everyones favourite, wasn't always the best football but he got fucking points, got us 4th out of nowhere, had us in 4th before he was sacked when everyone cried out for 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3, first time we tried it, was 4-0 at Newcastle after 20 minutes. Maybe Conte did know a few things the fans don't? Ended up in 8th...

I don't care what anyone says, but until Levy leaves or actually gives the right people the control, it doesn't matter what manager we get, simple as that.

 

[Razorspur]

He wanted assurances over Summer plans & DOF that Levy wasn't going to commit to and thus we released that BS that we weren't interested.

Crazy way to run a football club

 

[jay2040]

We had thought our last two managers would have done well though they were not backed.
Problem now going into next season is we need a manager, a DoF and Kane situation resolved.
The incompetent board struggle with one so managing all three is optimistic.
I also don't see why people refer to a project manager - we are an ongoing fucking project, we were when Poch came and we still are...

 

[lobob8]

With Slot off the table, can we update the poll (again)... Good to see the split of votes between Ange, JN and Luis Enrique

Even just Ange vs Enrique at this point would be interesting to see

 

[ButchCassidy]

Brighton could afford to take risks, we can’t.

Couldn’t disagree more. We’ll never, ever have sustained success without taking risks. The financial deck is stacked against us too much.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I think if we had hired a DoF first and then came to the conclusion that Ange was our number one choice from the get go the general fan base would on the whole be much more welcoming of the idea. At least there was a plan and a structure and Ange was clearly part of it.

As it is he’s our 3rd or 4th choice, he isn’t part of any structure or overall plan because we haven’t yet hired a DoF and there is at least one, if not two or three, other candidates that look better option. When your down to your 3rd or 4th choice you can‘t have rated them that much at the start. Just because they were on your list doesn’t say much.

Every single fan knows that Ange is a back up and when you have Nagelsmann sat there, plus after the last few years we’ve had, I get why Postecoglou is a little hard to accept.

Personally im not convinced by Ange, I don’t understand why we don’t commit to Nagelsmann‘s demands, I‘m annoyed we are ignoring Gallardo and I’d choose Enrique as a third option. De Zerbi I think is just unrealistic but probably shouldn’t be if we were well set up. I’d even give more thought to Amorim as the youth aspect and his success within a tougher league, rebuilding Sporting how he did, plus how well his team have performed in Europe make him an intreaging prospect even if his tactics are little too conservative in places for my taste. But with all that being said I do agree that the vitriol Ange has been getting especially on twitter is way too much. He’s become somewhat of a surrogate punching bag for Levy.

Even tho I know it’s the result of years of mismanagement from the very top there is absolutely no excuse for hate towards any potential manager. It’s not Ange’s fault we want him. But in between the hate there are also valid concerns by genuine fans just trying to make their voices heard. The fact is I may not particularly want him and I hope we go for someone else but if we do end up bringing him in I will support him completely and hope he proves me wrong.

And the irony is, we all know deep down it probably won’t matter who we being in because they won’t get the right backing. If Levy isn’t willing to bring in a DoF to accommodate Nagelsmann‘s vision, a manger that is certainly of a higher caliber then everyone else we have publicly looked at, then how much backing will our 3rd choice manager get regardless who it is.

 

[Chimbo!]

Of course they make stuff up. The back pages are full of fantasy stories about transfers. It’s been that way for decades. It’s naive in the extreme to think they don’t.

Especially in the age of clickbait. More than ever they’re under pressure to get eyeballs on their websites and as such their editors will be pushing them to recycle the same stories over and over. You’ll notice that in the article it’s very carefully worded. It doesn’t say we are looking at Gallardo, or that we are even talking to him. It literally just says “he might emerge as an option.” It’s like saying it might rain tomorrow. Big whoop.

So the Gallardo thing is factually accurate or made up?

 

[blitzfyr]

Ange and Dirty Dan doesn’t strike me as a match made in heaven…

 

[Tucker]

So the Gallardo thing is factually accurate or made up?

Who knows. But it’s certainly nothing to get excited about because it’s barely even a link.

There was a fantastic take down of Mokkbel and the way he works the other day. In fairness it could have been any number of the journos covering this story. They’ve all been miles off.

 

[Albertbarich]

Use that energy towards Levy then. Not Ange's fault..

Slightly irate? They're getting pissed at any little thing. It's embarrassing. It's pathetic.

To be fair they do and they get mocked for that too.

Look let's have it right. People and I include myself in this spend far too much time on social media and things often get silly. A lot of those using the hashtags will be kids and yeah it's silly but it's their opinion let them carry on, it's not like the club care.

I've noticed others bother you a lot, I'm sure you have quit the thread a couple of times recently. Just ignore. The twitter mute function is a wonderful thing, I use it a lot for childish and abusive people. On here there are people I disagree with, gonna happen and I'm sure people think I'm a dickhead at times. That's life.

The club through all of its own making is in a bit of a mess and the total lack of communication accentuates the frustration and anger by the day. Once the new guy gets in I'm sure it will calm down, especially with a couple of new toys (signings) and those same pathetic kids will be making memes about champions league and James Madison or whoever being better than Messi

 

[Kirito]

Couldn’t disagree more. We’ll never, ever have sustained success without taking risks. The financial deck is stacked against us too much.

Yeah ok take risks but this managerial appointment is too important for outright gambling.

Ive made my thoughts known on why I don’t think this is a good idea - but I don’t agree with the hate being spewed on social media towards the guy.

If he does come then obviously I’ll support him but for me this is regression.

 

[Chimbo!]

To the people saying no to Ange, you’re so immature. You just want a shiny, expensive new toy; you want the big name. Clearly, you’ve learned nothing from the last 4 years. I’m grateful that none of you are the Spurs chairman or in executive positions at the club.

 

[mil1lion]

Are we forgetting that Bayern literally just lost:
Alaba
Martinez,
Lewandoski
Boateng

Bayern lost their defence, had an ageing striker and not mention that Thiago, Perisic and Coutinho had 72 starts the season before and 3 left before him

Nagelsmann of course would spend a lot to get us to Bayerns level but he would have spend a lot more at every other club in Europe bar 6 or 7

You're crazy if you think he would need to spend more at the top clubs compared to us . Why the hell do you think he would lower his ambition for us but not one of the top clubs? He's not going to go from Bayern to dropping down to our level and being happy spending enough to challenge for Europe. He's a young manager who got a massive job and will want to win top honours with his next one. The only way he does that with us is spending big, he wouldn't need to at a top club just like he didn't at Bayern.

Managing Bayern is not comparable to Spurs. Sure he lost those players but Bayern can afford to lose them. They win pretty much every season and cherry pick the best young players in Bundesliga. It's a totally different prospect to managing Spurs who have won nothing for years, just finished 8th and are a mess playing in a far more competitive and expensive league. If you think Nagelsmann wouldn't have been asking for us to spend big then you're out of your mind. Even more so if you think Levy would turn him away if Nagelsmann told him he only needed to spend limited money. Levy for all his faults is not going to turn down a managers pick of players if they fit his budget. He has been willing to back managers when they do. It's when they require big money signings (including the wages) that Levy turns them away.

Nagelsmann is going to be every bit as demanding as Conte.

 

[UncleBuck]

Clocks ticking, as of tomorrow DL only has to hold out for another ten days then he’ll beat the Nuno record!
Fed up of bashing everything about the club at the moment but I just don’t see anything positive and haven’t done so for so long now.
Just waiting for the grand unveiling of Rogers in August to tip me completely over the edge….

 

[robotsonic]

Still absolute crickets on Nagelsmann's future from anywhere as far as I've seen. I still think we could be in for him, personally, if largely due to a lack of other options for him elsewhere. The word put out by the club has always been us distancing ourselves for legal reasons imo.

The whole situation the past few weeks feels like a protracted courting of the bloke to me, leveraging interest in other managers along he way, as while other managers are touting themselves to available jobs Nagelsmann has but a tentative link to Napoli from all of today.

Just seems off considering the position he finds himself in.

That said, I would be happy with Ange, Mason, or whoever is willing to get the ball down and play the Tottenham way. It's been too, too long, and for me that's what I care about above all else. Fuck all this nonsense about "accepting mediocrity". It's a fucking game, and I want to enjoy watching the football. I don't want to win anything playing some dire old shite and never did. I'd rather us play nice football that I care about but win nothing as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Tezza1978]

I think if we had hired a DoF first and then came to the conclusion that Ange was our number one choice from the get go the general fan base would on the whole be much more welcoming of the idea. At least there was a plan and a structure and Ange was clearly part of it.

As it is he’s our 3rd or 4th choice, he isn’t part of any structure or overall plan because we haven’t yet hired a DoF and there is at least one, if not two or three, other candidates that look better option. When your down to your 3rd or 4th choice you can‘t have rated them that much at the start. Just because they were on your list doesn’t say much.

Every single fan knows that Ange is a back up and when you have Nagelsmann sat there, plus after the last few years we’ve had, I get why Postecoglou is a little hard to accept.

Personally im not convinced by Ange, I don’t understand why we don’t commit to Nagelsmann‘s demands, I‘m annoyed we are ignoring Gallardo and I’d choose Enrique as a third option. De Zerbi I think is just unrealistic. I’d even give more thought to Amorim as the youth aspect and his success within a tougher league, rebuilding Sporting how he did, plus how well his team have performed in Europe make him an intreaging prospect even if his tactics are little too conservative in places for my taste. But with all that being said I do agree that the vitriol Ange has been getting especially on twitter is way too much. He’s become somewhat of a surrogate punching bag for Levy.

Even tho I know it’s the result of years of mismanagement from the very top there is absolutely no excuse for hate towards any potential manager. It’s not Ange’s fault we want him. But in between the hate there are also valid concerns by genuine fans just trying to make their voices heard. The fact is I may not particularly want him and I hope we go for someone else but if we do end up bringing him in I will support him completely and hope he proves me wrong.

And the irony is, we all know deep down it probably won’t matter who we being in because they won’t get the right backing. If Levy isn’t willing to bring in a DoF to accommodate Nagelsmann‘s vision, a manger that is certainly of a higher caliber then everyone else we have publicly looked at, then how much backing will our 3rd choice manager get regardless who it is.

Really good post. I've had a bit of a rant about Ange including to my Spurs supporting mates but not to the extent of being nasty and I do think the NoToPostecoglu stuff is OTT and ill advised. Its just frustration about the Club boiling over even though I don't think its necessary or right, I understand why people are very angry.

He's a perfectly decent, popular bloke, and a personality , good motivator and I don't give two shits about how old he is. But the fact that he hasnt had a job in any kind of competitive league up until this point is the biggest red flag. Hodgson is proving he can do a very good job still for certain clubs and he is in his 70s. But would a top club appoint him at 57 if his entire career to that point had been in low end leagues? Of course not.

This potential appointment is Levy all over and doesn't even fit the brief of an up and coming young project manager who can quickly get the players onside. What credibility is Postecoglu going to have with Kane, Son, Romero? That stuff matters, Kane checked out under Nuno and it could happen again. Easily.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Journalists still pissing in the wind on this I reckon.

Think they’re underplaying Enrique’s chances too. I’m sure the Napoli President said he’d been holding on to a Prem job and we’re the only suitable candidates in that respect.

 

[Tezza1978]

Think they’re underplaying Enrique’s chances too. I’m sure the Napoli President said he’d been holding on to a Prem job and we’re the only suitable candidates in that respect.

I'd like to think this is the case, but unfortunately Munn is clearly going to favour Postecoglu and will be in Levy's ear. I want Levy to piss off - at least from all football matters - but its harder when we haven't got a DOF as well as Munn.

I can even see a scenario where we have Munn and Ange and a transfer committee again rather than a proper DOF ***rolls eyes***

 

[Joshua shepherd]

You've made your feelings clear tonight , which you're entitled too.
But the constant 'bloke from Celtic' is abit much.

Bet you're glad we didn't employ that 'bloke from Feyernoord '

Although hold tight , we might get 'the bloke from South America'

Or worse still 'the unemployed bloke'.

Whoever it is , I hope they do as well as the 'bloke from Juventus' and the 'bloke from man united'.

If they do as well as the bloke from juventus they’ll have been a success.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Think they’re underplaying Enrique’s chances too. I’m sure the Napoli President said he’d been holding on to a Prem job and we’re the only suitable candidates in that respect.

He’s being linked to the PSG job again this evening, I can completely see that happening if they don’t go for Jose. But I agree, De Laurentiis is absolutely nuts and often says stuff that isn’t remotely true.

The fact is, if you’re Luis Enrique you’re only going to turn down the Napoli job if you have something else pretty much set in stone. We seem to be favouring Ange and there are no other PL teams he’d go to so something doesn’t quite add up.