Not happy with GDS going on loan to Ipswich

[That Guy]

To be honest I'll be glad when he is sold. This situation is just the same as when Postiga wasn't playing, and Mabizela and all those players. They've done jack shit since they left here, where they did jack shit. Yet everyone spends all their time talking them up to be thee amazing players, and if only we'd been playing them we'd be flying up that league.

 

[phil]

Pav and Campbell have terrible scoring averages in the Prem.

But a lot better than Gio's average of 1 goal every 10 games for Spurs/Barcelona

What I am saying is, in general, he hasn't even been given a chance to see if he can be a good player for us.

He is one that I had high hopes about, and we may never see him do what he does best in a Spurs shirt now that we have players like Palacious to let him shine.

I don't watch Barcelona games, so I didn't know what to expect from Gio. But I was very disappointed with what I saw of him when he did get some starts early in the season. I just feel he is too lightweight for the EPL.

Um, do you guys remember how at the beginning of the season he was generally rated as one of our better attacking players (more so than Modric) in each game even if he wasn't exactly setting the league alight? (and i checked on these forums) So isn't it a bit too soon to call him rubbish? It's just an overreaction to the amount of hype he had over the summer - I don't think he's ready for a relegation battle in the Premiership yet, but he's 19, barely gotten games and he still isn't match fit yet, so he's barely had a chance with us.

No I don't remember that. Which games were you watching?

I do remember a number of threads early in the season debating where Gio should play as he wasn't having any affect out wide.

Its no loss Dos santos going to Ipswich. Youve either got it or you havent ?? Maybe he does have potential, but its never gonna happen for him at Spurs is it ?? At a club like United he'd probably get away with it because all of the quality around him would protect him, but the reality is at Spurs he is exposed & nothing more than an average footballer with potential.

A voice of sanity.

On the contrary, the spurs team are exposed as nothing more than a bunch of average footballers.

GDS together with modric are among the few intelligent footballers we have in our team. He rarely gives the ball away and makes efficient use of the ball. He looks small but like modric can hold his own better than bentley or zokora.

The reason why GDS is not prefered because our team does not know how to keep possesion. Hoof is the play of the day, and has been for the last 5-8 years.

Gio is nowhere near the class of Modric. The reason why Harry, and Ramos, didn't pick him is that he hasn't been good enough.

The last 5 years has seen two fifth place finishes and two Wembley finals. Hoof seems to work.

 

[Yid-ol]

Gio would hardly et a sniff in the team at the minute with Modric and lennon both putting in great performances, so a loan deal is just what is needed for him to show what he can do and to get him totaly match fit again!

 

[yanno]

Robofan confirmed his slightly dodgy ankle meant he failed his medical and pompey wanted players who could play right away.

It was a loan deal.

With respect, Kendall, robofan simply uttered "tosh". Given robofan's insider track, I asked him to clarify what exactly went on between Spurs, Pompey and Gio, and he has not responded.

The questions remain:

Would we have sold Gio to Pompey in January?

If it was a loan, would there have been a clause specifying the price at which Pompey could sign Gio?

Such clauses often appear in loan deals involving players worth millions of pounds - eg the Germans can buy Prince Boateng for an agreed fee. Whereas we have no option to buy Frazier Campbell. (Not that we want him... :wink

If such a clause existed in some proposed Gio to Pompey loan deal, then it would strongly suggest 'Arry wants to unload him.

I hope robofan will answer these questions and clarify the situation.

 

[speccy_spur]

I see Harry as a buyer & seller, not a loan & returner. Gio, Gunter and Taarabt are being put in the shop window via regular football, which they are not going to get under Harry at Spurs.

 

[chrissivad]

I see Harry as a buyer & seller, not a loan & returner. Gio, Gunter and Taarabt are being put in the shop window via regular football, which they are not going to get under Harry at Spurs.

So do i, but i also dont think he has ever had the depth in youngsters before ether, dont think they are in the window just to see what they cabn do

 

[Goldman]

Gio would hardly et a sniff in the team at the minute with Modric and lennon both putting in great performances, so a loan deal is just what is needed for him to show what he can do and to get him totaly match fit again!

Exactly. Hopefully he will get a good run, and come back next season a more confident player.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

To be honest I'll be glad when he is sold. This situation is just the same as when Postiga wasn't playing, and Mabizela and all those players. They've done jack shit since they left here, where they did jack shit. Yet everyone spends all their time talking them up to be thee amazing players, and if only we'd been playing them we'd be flying up that league.

This is really an idiotic post of someone with very little understanding of football. I cannot say for certain that Dos Santos will fullfill his full potential, but he is 19 years old, living in a new country, a very long way from his homeland. For many of us he has looked better when he's played than Bentley who cost 15 million and has returned to the area where he was born and lived as a kid, and is about 6 years Dos Santos's senior.
The point of signing players like Dos Santos is that it is impossible for us to sign the finished article aged 24-26 because by then they are playing for Real Madrid, Barca, ManU and cost about 30 million.

Gio is nowhere near the class of Modric. The reason why Harry, and Ramos, didn't pick him is that he hasn't been good enough.

The last 5 years has seen two fifth place finishes and two Wembley finals. Hoof seems to work.

But GDS is 4 years younger than Modric. I bet you hadn't even heard of Modric 4 years ago.

 

[DJS]

What a strange old world football is - playing for Barca one season and scoring a hat-trick in one game and then the next loaned out to Ipswich Town! Eek

I like Ipswich mind, but what a gulf.

 

[gibbs131]

But a lot better than Gio's average of 1 goal every 10 games for Spurs/Barcelona

So you think Gio is a striker? Interesting.

I don't watch Barcelona games, so I didn't know what to expect from Gio. But I was very disappointed with what I saw of him when he did get some starts early in the season. I just feel he is too lightweight for the EPL.

We were bottom 3 with or without Gio. Modric, Bentley etc were shite at the beginning too.

Gio is nowhere near the class of Modric. The reason why Harry, and Ramos, didn't pick him is that he hasn't been good enough.

Time will tell.

 

[Destroyer]

Anyone would think some of you guys were Michael Jackson fans ???

Its Giovani Dos Santos for christ sakes, not Wacko Jacko !

 

[lilywhitecurtis]

I wonder how Gio himself is gonna react to this, if he sulks, this could well spell the end of his spurs career. In contrast, it might be exactly what he needs to get used to the physical aspect.

 

[simyid]

apparently GDS and taarabt is in the squad tommorrow

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7922077.stm

Tottenham (from): Gomes, Cudicini, Corluka, Chimbonda, Bale, Dawson, Woodgate, King, Assou-Ekotto, Zokora, Bentley, Huddlestone, Jenas, Lennon, Palacios, Modric, Taarabt, Giovani, O'Hara, Pavlyuchenko, Bent, Keane, Campbell.

:rofl::rofl::rofl: just proves bbc are a bunch of numpties

 

[gibbs131]

From the loan update page:


Gio was voted Man of the Match on one of the forums (TWTD) despite only playing for about twenty minutes Eek (a 9 out of 10). They're being rather biased there probably from the hype, but a good sign nonetheless. :grin:

The clubfanzine: "Sub Dos Santos showed pace, skill and a willingness to run at players during his time on the field and made one superb pass to Lisbie in the run-up to the header which Hahnemann saved so well."

 

[Michey]

I wonder how Gio himself is gonna react to this, if he sulks, this could well spell the end of his spurs career. In contrast, it might be exactly what he needs to get used to the physical aspect.

It might but it would only mean that some other club will enjoy his qualities and we will sit here in a few years and curse the ones in charge back then.

So the ones with the biggest loss will be us..............if he's shipped out this summer that is.

 

[phil]

So you think Gio is a striker? Interesting.

We were bottom 3 with or without Gio. Modric, Bentley etc were shite at the beginning too.

Time will tell.

No Gibbsy, I don't. I was replying to your comment that Pav and Campbell have poor goalscoring averages. Gio has scored 5 times in 50 appearances for Barcelona/Spurs and 3 of those came in a meaningless end-of-season match.

I am sure that Gio has talent but I'm not convinced he has the attitude or application to make it in the Premiership. Hope I'm proved wrong. It would be marvellous if he could develop to solve our long-term problem on the left (although I suspect that Downing will be filling that position next season). If Gio has as much talent as you, and others, suggest then he should have a massive impact at Portman Road.

I agree with your comments about Bentley but Modric showed his class from the beginning.

 

[Hoowl]

GDS has done nothing at Spurs to suggest he's going to make it so at the moment he's all reputation. I really hope he makes it but if he hasn't done enough to convince Ramos or Redknapp that he should be getting on the pitch then you've got to question if he's ready. I think loaning him out is a good move. If he'd already proven to be a good option on the bench then I'd say keep him as an impact sub but he hasn't and Bentley and O'Hara are safer options, even if they don't have the potential or wow factor of GDS.