Opinion of AVB in hindsight?

[Lilbaz]

He played plenty of games under Redknapp.

And missed plenty and couldn't train. He was not "fit".

 

[eViL]

And missed plenty and couldn't train. He was not "fit".

We didn't have any fit players under Redknapp. That was half the problem.

 

[Lilbaz]

We didn't have any fit players under Redknapp. That was half the problem.

They managed to get us 4th.

 

[Hans Moleman]

Harry was an idiot who knew football. AVB was a stylish guy who knew nothing about football. Harry everyday of the week.

 

[Misfit]

Harry. Right up until the moment he completely fucked it by spread-eagling and strumming his banjo string in front of everyone for the FA during the last 3 months of the season. 16 pts from the last 12 games. 10 of those from the last 4 games. Fucking nora. At least H was pleased at the sight of Chelsea winning the cocking CL I suppose. This is going to cost me a few more thousand quid in therapy bills it seems.

The moral of the story? Fuck the FA and fuck Ingerlund. I was always ambivalent but now, I hate everything about our national team.

 

[Misfit]

We'd be much better off if AVB never left and got the support he needed...

True for most of them. Maybe not every move H wanted was done, or could be done, by the club but by Christ was he supported. That Newcastle game when everyone sang their hearts out for him.So long ago now.

The most Spursy season ever. I fucking hate this club so much sometimes. I wish I didn't love it so much.

But yeah, I can kinda see why when we stopped sucking all the dicks in the league the higher ups felt they needed to keep things moving along but a little more stability in allowing an iffy season to be had might have been beneficial longer term. Rock and a hard place I guess.

 

[Shadydan]

I think at heart levy and many of our fans are snobs. They want some suave sophisticated manager that talks of philosiphies and such. They don't want the one's that have a cockny accent and have a laugh and joke with the press. You get embarrassed when introducing them to sponsors. But it is those who give the players love, those who the players will do their best for, those that nutcases would turn up to training for.

Because they don't seem sophisticated and struggle to speak one language rather than 4 people underestimate them and think they know nothing about the game.

Sad. I'd have jol, harry or tim over ramos, avb or poch any day of the week. Unfortunately a section of fans hated tim too much (unwarrented in my opinion), so had to go.
I will give poch till the end of the season. Hopefully with a little pace up front he can get it working.

That's not true, fans just want the flavour of the month manager and that goes for players as well.

 

[Lilbaz]

That's not true, fans just want the flavour of the month manager and that goes for players as well.

Fans will want flavour of the month manager but that doesn't explain all the hate that harry and tim got. Both were accused of being stupid, having no tactics etc... There is a lot of snobbery on here (not just about our managers) you can see it in peoples posts regarding a lot of subjects. But the posters doing it can't even see it.

 

[Metalhead]

Harry. Right up until the moment he completely fucked it by spread-eagling and strumming his banjo string in front of everyone for the FA during the last 3 months of the season. 16 pts from the last 12 games. 10 of those from the last 4 games. Fucking nora. At least H was pleased at the sight of Chelsea winning the cocking CL I suppose. This is going to cost me a few more thousand quid in therapy bills it seems.

The moral of the story? Fuck the FA and fuck Ingerlund. I was always ambivalent but now, I hate everything about our national team.

It's a pity that the FA couldn't have unofficially told Harry that he didn't have the job and then he could have saved face and committed himself to the club. Mind you, had we signed better quality players in the January window it would also have helped.

 

[Trix]

Fans will want flavour of the month manager but that doesn't explain all the hate that harry and tim got. Both were accused of being stupid, having no tactics etc... There is a lot of snobbery on here (not just about our managers) you can see it in peoples posts regarding a lot of subjects. But the posters doing it can't even see it.

Ignoring everything they did or not do on the pitch, they are a pair of conniving snakes, who would happily sell anyone down the river if it were to benefit themselves. That is why I dislike both of them.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Ignoring everything they did or not do on the pitch, they are a pair of conniving snakes, who would happily sell anyone down the river if it were to benefit themselves. That is why I dislike both of them.

Didn't know that about Harry, deffo agree about Tim. He's always been like that, from early on as a player.

 

[Shadydan]

Fans will want flavour of the month manager but that doesn't explain all the hate that harry and tim got. Both were accused of being stupid, having no tactics etc... There is a lot of snobbery on here (not just about our managers) you can see it in peoples posts regarding a lot of subjects. But the posters doing it can't even see it.

The hate Harry and Tim got a lot of it was self inflicted to be fair mainly because they're utter gobshites which put a lot of people off.

Do you think if Poch was struggling and if Garry Monk became available people wouldn't be campaigning for him?

 

[Trix]

It's a pity that the FA couldn't have unofficially told Harry that he didn't have the job and then he could have saved face and committed himself to the club. Mind you, had we signed better quality players in the January window it would also have helped.

You don't financially back a manager that clearly doesn't want to be there. We could have just bought players anyway, but lets be honest Arry was stubborn old fool who was only interested in playing his favourites.

 

[Trix]

Didn't know that about Harry, deffo agree about Tim. He's always been like that, from early on as a player.

Harry is a founder member of the self preservation society.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I think at heart levy and many of our fans are snobs. They want some suave sophisticated manager that talks of philosiphies and such. They don't want the one's that have a cockny accent and have a laugh and joke with the press. You get embarrassed when introducing them to sponsors. But it is those who give the players love, those who the players will do their best for, those that nutcases would turn up to training for.

Because they don't seem sophisticated and struggle to speak one language rather than 4 people underestimate them and think they know nothing about the game.

Sad. I'd have jol, harry or tim over ramos, avb or poch any day of the week. Unfortunately a section of fans hated tim too much (unwarrented in my opinion), so had to go.
I will give poch till the end of the season. Hopefully with a little pace up front he can get it working.

Yeh I've always thought that, a young Alex Ferguson with his Glasgow accent would be even worse, all the fans would want rid and replaced with an Iberian accountant in a suit. Their is a snobbishness in our fan base, if Harry won the Champions League he'd still be seen as that dumb cockney and everyone would still be waiting for some fancy foreign chap to succeed him.

The football under Redknapp, Jol and even Sherwood was far nicer to watch than the shit AVB served up. In defence of Poch he has at least provide some thrilling games and is a good developer of young players so I am happy with him right now. We play good football I can live with not winning the league.

 

[thebenjamin]

After being sacked by Chelsea Avb spent 6 months scouting in South America. And came up with Paulinho.

 

[Hotspur33]

Part of problem comparing Harry and AVB is that the teams we were playing were set up completely differently. Harry took over a Spurs team that was struggling. Teams didn't fear Spurs when Harry took over, and so didn't spend all game defending. This played into the hands of Lennon and Bale.
After a couple of 4th place finishes teams were starting to respect us a bit more, which is, IMO, why Harry had a poor finish to his last season. Teams started to sit back and hit us on the break.
Enter AVB, and suddenly all teams sat back, allowed us possession in our half and waited to hit us on the break. That, again IMO, makes for boring games. If only one side is out to play football.

 

[WiganSpur]

Harry didn't want to commit himself to us as i'm sure he thought he had the England job. As soon as he realised he didn't have it he started crying for a new contract. Loyalty works both ways.

Because he wouldn't commit I think for a 2 month period towards the end of the season we had worse form than Terry Connor's Wolves had over their full season with a squad that should have probably been within touching distance of the league.

He would have been better doing the smart thing and publicly committing himself. Although he would have seemed a snake if he did take the job at the end of the season, at least our form probably wouldn't have suffered as much. He didn't seem to want to let his reputation suffer for the sake of the team though.

He was presented with a difficult situation but he handled it appallingly in my opinion.

 

[mattstev2000]

AVB everyday of the week and twice on Sunday's.

He got more points and similar league positions with a considerably worse squad, he made me think we actually had a plan when we went out to play, we were more professional, when he spoke he actually seemed to be part of Spurs (it was 'us' and 'we' from day one whereas Redknapp was more often than not 'spurs' or 'this team', 'the players' etc.), he celebrated like a nutter on the touchline when we scored, he didn't balls up one of our best ever seasons because he was busy trying to get a job at the FA (and then try to renegotiate his contract the second he didn't get said job), he didn't hang out of his car window desperately searching for reporters on deadline day and most importantly of all he is in no way related to Jamie Redknapp.

Look at Redknapp's career before and after Spurs, we did more for his CV than he did for our trophy cabinet.

 

[nightgoat]

No he didn't. He inherited a team that had finished 4th. He lost Modric but we replaced him with Dembele who, whilst not in Modric's class, could play similar to Modric in terms of receiving the ball under pressure and retaining possession and also carrying the ball to retain possession.

You're seriously suggesting that Luka Modric, whose main strength was dictating the high tempo you're all bemoaning the loss of and played one, two touch football better than anyone else we've had in recent years, was adequately replaced with Dembele who slows our play down more than anyone (even Adebayor)?