Paul Gascoigne sectioned under Mental Health Act

[gavspur]

Fergie would either have got well annoyed with Gazza and sold him on asap, or completely taken away a part of his game that made him sooo good, I see he's trying to take away any spark that Rooney has too.. Ok, El Tel probably wasn't strict enough with him, but no manager's ever been able to control him, and El Tel got the best out of Gazza, so fair play.. My uncle's friends with McCoist, and in a Scottish Cup Final Gazza went missing at half time, they found him in the bar with Best, having a large whisky, they went mad at him, he downed it, then went out and won them the game.... I see someone earlier was saying in America they use football/sports to control mental problems or something? Well, surely thats what Gazza was doing his whole career? Suppressing the mental problems with his playing, hence he was in more trouble personally when he's not been playing, either thru injury, or retirement.

 

[There's always next year]

Who does Fergie think he is... Mother Theresa. All this bollox about the so called Geordies at Man U. Bobby Charlton has done fuck all since 1966 and like Geoff Hurst has made a nice living out it. Bryan Robson is and was probably a bigger piss head than Gazza. Did Fergie forget we had Chrissy Waddle , who at the time was a far stronger influence than any of Fergies Northern monkeys. Manchester in the late 80's and early 90's was a major shit hole, as Thatcher stripped away all the industry and they had to continue to shit in their outside bogs. It was the IRA that made Manchester as it is today by blowing it up and them having to start building it up from scratch. Gazza made the right choice and followed the streets paved in gold.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Fergie is correct. At the time we had everybodys mate "El Tel" in charge. What Gazza needed was someone like Fergie to control every aspect of his life, and to keep the twats away. Gazza, miles away from London and the "celebs" would have been better off.

Times have changed nw and all clubs are more professional, but back then, Fergie was ahead of most managers purely by being so professional.

 

[SpurSince57]

But Gazza went into major plot-loss after he left Spurs (although, admittedly, the signs were there when he was with us).

There are similarities between Rooney and Gazza, but I'd say Rooney is just plain thick rather than mental—and has Fergie been wholly successful in controlling Monkey Boy? Busby—one of the great managers—couldn't prevent Georgie Best from pressing the self-destruct button, and Best was a whole lot brighter than Rooney or Gazza.

It's great being wise after the event.

 

[speccy_spur]

Damn sad chapter in his life. Hope he can get through it. More accurately, hope his carers can get him through it as he seems unable to save himself.

All the hangers on have made themselves scarce long ago it seems. All that is left is the tabloid vulture scum circling and waiting (and hoping) for more problems to arise.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Who does Fergie think he is... Mother Theresa. All this bollox about the so called Geordies at Man U. Bobby Charlton has done fuck all since 1966 and like Geoff Hurst has made a nice living out it. Bryan Robson is and was probably a bigger piss head than Gazza. Did Fergie forget we had Chrissy Waddle , who at the time was a far stronger influence than any of Fergies Northern monkeys. Manchester in the late 80's and early 90's was a major shit hole, as Thatcher stripped away all the industry and they had to continue to shit in their outside bogs. It was the IRA that made Manchester as it is today by blowing it up and them having to start building it up from scratch. Gazza made the right choice and followed the streets paved in gold.

Very good point. And he still continues.

Gazza has been slated to come out here for two years but was only allowed to travel with Waddle (who is his minder even to this day and takes responsibility for Gazza's actions as often as he can because Gazza can't be trusted and constantly misses engagements and just generally fucks about). Even then after a trip to Dubai a year or so ago went badly despite Chrissy's best efforts, the PFA could do no more so banned Gazza from representing them in Masters footy or anything like that until he sorted himself out and got some help. :-(

 

[worcestersauce]

Apparently he hasn't actually been sectioned and has discharged himself.

It seems the problem may be purely drink and nothing to do with mental state in which case he can't be sectioned as I understand it.

I believe Drug and Alcohol problems are dealt with in the mental health structure but there are definite lines seperating them within the mental health act.

 

[klinsmann66]

I may be wrong, but has he not been quoted in the tabloids as saying he wants to kill himself? Well I have come across plenty of heavy drinkers and some where alchoholics...but I do not recall any wanting to end it all...on the other hand a very (very) close family member suffers from severe mental problems ...and yes they have attempted to end it all....

 

[worcestersauce]

I may be wrong, but has he not been quoted in the tabloids as saying he wants to kill himself? Well I have come across plenty of heavy drinkers and some where alchoholics...but I do not recall any wanting to end it all...on the other hand a very (very) close family member suffers from severe mental problems ...and yes they have attempted to end it all....

I'm sorry to hear that Klinsmann, I too have a close family member who has suffered badly with their nerves and depression, fortunately they haven't taken such drastic action.
I think that the general medical wisdom is that saying you want to kill yourself is not indicative of a severe mental health problem, particularly if you are drunk when you say it and so whilst you may be suitable for treatment, possibly for depression to some degree or another, that in itself does not warrant a section.

Sadly I guess if you actually try to end it all you could be sectioned.

 

[klinsmann66]

I'm sorry to hear that Klinsmann, I too have a close family member who has suffered badly with their nerves and depression, fortunately they haven't taken such drastic action.
I think that the general medical wisdom is that saying you want to kill yourself is not indicative of a severe mental health problem, particularly if you are drunk when you say it and so whilst you may be suitable for treatment, possibly for depression to some degree or another, that in itself does not warrant a section.

Sadly I guess if you actually try to end it all you could be sectioned.

I agree with you entirely....our opinions on Paul Gascoine are, after all driven by what we read and perceive via the media, and only people that are in close contact with him can truly judge his true demeanour..... I will say that through experience, everybody that met my family member, was always fooled in to believing that they had no problem.....unfortunately Gazza cannot hide anywhere, and perhaps his problems are magnified because of his fame.

 

[Bonjour]

I believe this video was posted the last time Gazza was sectioned, so it's only fair to post it here as well.

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[klinsmann66]

I believe this video was posted the last time Gazza was sectioned, so it's only fair to post it here as well

Ironic as it may seem.........It is exactly what happens when you try telling someone who has a problem with reality ....(They cannot see it, and think that it is the other way around).

 

[KingKay]

Sorry to detract away from the Gazza story as it is the more important of the two, but i feel a rant coming on about Ferguson.

Ive lost a lot of respect for ferguson in the last few weeks. Firstly he has the cheek to come out and criticise Real Madrid for showing an open interest in Ronaldo. Not that Ferguson has ever done that himself aye? Oh no! United seem to think they have a divine right to sign any player they want, yet when the shoe is on the other foot he doesn't like it. Talk about double standards!
Then last night im watching the news and he comes out with that load of sh1te about Gazza. The man has severly fallen down in my estimation. Maybe hes getting too long in the tooth and its time for him to do the honourable thing and retire. The guys a football legend, but a cock into the equation.

Rant Over !

 

[bomberH]

I swear i read the last time he was sectioned that 'Newcastle United & Tottenham Hotspur' were going to offer Gazza some support for his health etc ???

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/paulgascoigne.html

Paul Gascoigne

As the media embargo, originally requested to secure privacy for Paul, has now been lifted, the Club would like to provide our supporters with an update on the position regarding our former midfield great Paul Gascoigne.

Gazza, one of English football's favourite sons, was yesterday sectioned under the Mental Health Act and will receive treatment for an enforced period of six months.

The gravity of his problems came to light in February when he was first sectioned and Gary Mabbutt, the Club, the Professional Footballers' Association and the Football Association, along with other footballing friends and family of the 42-year-old privately came together with the aim of providing the former England international with the medical care he required. There remains the need for enforced and prolonged treatment, which Gary feels Gazza will now receive.

"Since Paul was first sectioned in February a number of people came together quietly - the Club, both directly and through the Tottenham Tribute Trust, the FA, the PFA - to provide support both practical and financial - and to work, along with his friends and family, with his specialists to get the best treatment for him," said Gary, captain during Gazza's three-year spell at the Lane from 1988-91.

"We were able to get treatment for Paul at the Priory and other clinics, but the problem was that when he was sober he would discharge himself only to relapse again.

"He was on the road to self-destruction so, after making every effort to protect his privacy, it was decided that we must enter the public domain in order to put some pressure through the media on the powers that be to have him sectioned.

"The Club has been kept very much up to date with everything and I have liaised with them on a daily basis. It has been a case of us all striving to help Paul through this difficult period of time."
Gary stressed that a dependence on alcohol is one of a number, but not the root cause, of Gazza's problems.

"I must make it clear that Paul is not just an alcoholic, that is not the situation. Some articles have portrayed this as simply an addiction to alcohol, but that is a symptom rather than a cause and there are far more serious problems that have to be addressed. He suffers from several disorders, including manic depression, that add to a pretty nasty cocktail of things going on in his head.

"Unfortunately, until they cure the first problem, they can't cure the second, third and fourth problem.

"The good thing now is that treatment can be administered on a sustained basis to deal with his addictions and other problems."
Daniel Levy, acknowledging the contribution made by Gary, said, "Gary Mabbutt has played an important role in helping Paul - he has worked tirelessly to help him through his difficult times and been a central point of liaison for support. While the plight of Paul has in some quarters been put down to one of simply alcoholism, Gary has highlighted the real cause of Paul's illness. With great patience and determination he has continued to gather support for his former teammate and called for him to be sectioned for his own long-term benefit.

"The fact that Paul is now sectioned offers him a real chance of recovery and I am sure I speak for many in saying we wish him well."

 

[worcestersauce]

Well it appears there are deeper problems after all so hopefully he can be helped now.

Good to know the club have been involved trying to help.

 

[PT]

He just wants to be twenty again and playing football.

Get well Paul.

 

[worcestersauce]

He just wants to be twenty again and playing football.

Get well Paul.

Don't we all!

 

[Bonjour]

Chris Waddle still plays Sunday League / Vets football doesn't he?

 

[CrazyConrad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYznwDXjBSY

What a player! I dont care what others say, no players today is even good enough to lick his shoes.

Get well Paul!

 

[wizgell]

One of my first football heroes.

Finally he is getting the right care and I hope it works

Get Well Soon Gazza