Paulinho going back to Corinthians?

[Gaz_Gammon]

Hmm is that right? Wow, shows how little we've scored for me to even consider that i suppose. I mean last season was beyond a joke.

With regards to your other points, he's supposed to be an established international and Lamela is still a kid.

Paulinho is twenty six and Lamela twenty two. I wouldn't call a twenty two year old a "kid". If he's selected to play then he should be good enough irrespective of age.

With regards to "established Internationals" both have been selected for their National sides, and at the end of the day being an "International" counts for little in the modern game. International sides hand out Caps like confetti.

You just have to look to the England side for proof of that fact.

 

[parklane1]

Pity he never settled here ( yet), he is a good player but not being used to his strengths.

 

[CrazyHeart]

Don't think any Brazilian side has the money Levy wants.

I don't think Brazil as a sovereign nation has the money Levy wants.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

He'll get another chance in the team before january, injury's, loss of form ect ect. Up to him to take it, if he can tidy up his passing slightly he'll be an asset to the team.

 

[slartibartfast]

He's not for me.
Can't see him getting better or even being given the chance to.
He's had plenty of game time to adjust imo.
I don't see Southamptons new players taking a f in year to settle. Whats their excuse?
Load of bollox imo. You can tell after the first 15 times of watching a player whether he's up to it or not and he aint I'm afraid.
More bloody money down the pan but it did get Baldini a lovey holiday home in Brazil.
Ooh, I'm ranting

 

[bsinghd]

Evening standard quote "...signed in summer 2012", no it was 2013! The guy has had one, very turbulent, season playing in a league and country which is completely strange to him. Not to forget he's only 24 and hasn't had a summer break in 2 years due to the international tournaments he's been involved in.

 

[Lighty64]

Evening standard quote "...signed in summer 2012", no it was 2013! The guy has had one, very turbulent, season playing in a league and country which is completely strange to him. Not to forget he's only 24 and hasn't had a summer break in 2 years due to the international tournaments he's been involved in.

not only that, but the only break in football he has had is not being picked this season.

when he joined us last season, he had not only finished playing the Feds cup, but the Brazilian season started in May.

until he got sent off against Liverfools last season + picked up a knock then not really featuring under Sherwood, he was doing a lot better than what was made out on here. he was getting goals, and was very unfortunate not to have more.

only Eriksen really shone last season, and has been given a real chance by the 3 managers we have had. hard enough to settle in a new country, let alone not to have consistency with the man that sets the team out

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

He's not for me.
Can't see him getting better or even being given the chance to.
He's had plenty of game time to adjust imo.
I don't see Southamptons new players taking a f in year to settle. Whats their excuse?
Load of bollox imo. You can tell after the first 15 times of watching a player whether he's up to it or not and he aint I'm afraid.
More bloody money down the pan but it did get Baldini a lovey holiday home in Brazil.
Ooh, I'm ranting

You talking about Lamela or Paulinho?

Where did you think Paulinho finished as a goal getter for Spurs last season?

Just guess without looking it up.

 

[glenda]

He's not for me.
Can't see him getting better or even being given the chance to.
He's had plenty of game time to adjust imo.
I don't see Southamptons new players taking a f in year to settle. Whats their excuse?
Load of bollox imo. You can tell after the first 15 times of watching a player whether he's up to it or not and he aint I'm afraid.
More bloody money down the pan but it did get Baldini a lovey holiday home in Brazil.
Ooh, I'm ranting

At last someone talking sense. If u have talent u should be able to show it on the field. Ok, language may come in to play off field in a few social events. But how much english did Tino Asprilla, Augero,Suaurez and countless others know. As for Baldini read Fabio Cappello"s book if u want to know what he is about. The pair of them are the biggest blaggers in the modern game. Half the players that have come in he has pocketed a nice cut in back handers for. I want him to justify,the Lamela fee to me. FOH!!

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

I think an amicable split is best for all three parties, although @Gaz_Gammon does make a good point about our lack of a consistent midfield goal-scorer. However, I don't think P's ratio merits keeping him because he doesn't really do much else. Ever the optimist, I'm backing Ryan Mason to grow into that role.

 

[scottlag10]

He has scored six in thirty games for us from midfield and though not prolific, aside from Eriksen who else is going to score from that area?

I'd hate to see him go and it's funny how Lamela get's some leniency on here over his performances yet Paulinho doesn't?

I'd say that both so far have been underwhelming and need more time to settle. Thirty games (for Paulinho) is hardly a fair measure to assess his ability. Didn't Bale feature in twenty two games without being on the winning side?

Last season you said 'Paulinho is one of the few players we have capable of playing in a top 4 side'. Do you still hold that opinion? And are you happy with his pace across the pitch, tackling and passing? and if so please justify your opinion for these areas of his game.

 

[Maske2g]

Last season you said 'Paulinho is one of the few players we have capable of playing in a top 4 side'. Do you still hold that opinion? And are you happy with his pace across the pitch, tackling and passing? and if so please justify your opinion for these areas of his game.

Did he really say that? Embarrassing.

I've never seen a midfielder successfully manage to avoid a game of football for 85 minutes every week like he did last year. Worse signing than Bentley.

Sherwood and Ferdinand told a club insider that Paulinho and Sandro were the two worst top flight footballers they have ever seen in training. I believe them. Sandro can't pass a ball. Paulinho is a world class hide and seek champion.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Last season you said 'Paulinho is one of the few players we have capable of playing in a top 4 side'. Do you still hold that opinion? And are you happy with his pace across the pitch, tackling and passing? and if so please justify your opinion for these areas of his game.

I do think that given a run in the team similar to that of Lamela would benefit the team. At the end of the day to keep persisting with the same line up will just not produce goals. That's plain for all to see.

 

[Jimmyjimmyo]

I do think that given a run in the team similar to that of Lamela would benefit the team. At the end of the day to keep persisting with the same line up will just not produce goals. That's plain for all to see.

The problem with giving him a run is who do you drop? Mason is better than him in terms of moving the ball forward, capoue is better defensively, chadli and Eriksson have a better goal threat and seem to work better in that forward 3 and that's before we even look at the bench options

 

[slartibartfast]

You talking about Lamela or Paulinho?

Where did you think Paulinho finished as a goal getter for Spurs last season?

Just guess without looking it up.

I meant Pauline.
And how high did she finish in a table of goals for a team full of players who haven't been scoring?
Who cares.
Imo he's not good enough.
You think he is.
Thats that.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

The problem with giving him a run is who do you drop? Mason is better than him in terms of moving the ball forward, capoue is better defensively, chadli and Eriksson have a better goal threat and seem to work better in that forward 3 and that's before we even look at the bench options

I'd rotate Capoue, Mason, Dembele and Paulinho. In eight games, plus the EL matches so far we are just not scoring enough. To persist with the same old, same old just does not make sense.

 

[slartibartfast]

I do think that given a run in the team similar to that of Lamela would benefit the team. At the end of the day to keep persisting with the same line up will just not produce goals. That's plain for all to see.

Disagree. We're starting to look much better in attacking play. It's much quicker than its been for a while and more shots on goal will result in more goals.
Whether you think we should drop one of the attacking 3 to give Pauline a shot is another matter. He won't get in ahead of Mason or Capoue, nor should he imo so has to be 1 of the 3.
I see what you're saying regarding Lamela though. Thing is he cost so much we have to play him ahead of Pauline. And he offers more anyway.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

I meant Pauline.
And how high did she finish in a table of goals for a team full of players who haven't been scoring?
Who cares.
Imo he's not good enough.
You think he is.
Thats that.

I think that aside from Eriksen he will score goals, and last season scored more than Townsend, Lamela, Lennon, Capoue, Dembele, and Bentaleb.

I mean just which midfielder aside from Eriksen and Chadli do you expect the goals to come flowing from this season?

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Disagree. We're starting to look much better in attacking play. It's much quicker than its been for a while and more shots on goal will result in more goals.
Whether you think we should drop one of the attacking 3 to give Pauline a shot is another matter. He won't get in ahead of Mason or Capoue, nor should he imo.
I see what you're saying regarding Lamela though. Thing is he cost so much we have to play him ahead of Pauline. And he offers more anyway.

Therein lies the truth.

I'd say that after fifteen games you'd expect Lamela to have bagged one goal in the PL. Not being pissy but one goal surely?

 

[slartibartfast]

I think that aside from Eriksen he will score goals, and last season scored more than Townsend, Lamela, Lennon, Capoue, Dembele, and Bentaleb.

I mean just which midfielder aside from Eriksen and Chadli do you expect the goals to come flowing from this season?

Erikson and Chadli. Thats it lol.
Don't get me wrong I hate having one upfront. Unless he's a world class goal machine, which we dont have, you're relying on your midfield to score which, unless they're also top draw, aint gonna happen.
Thats why they're f in midfielders and not strikers.
I'm old school apparently but imo setting you're team up so you'll struggle to score and play such a high line you cant defend either is not moving forward.
Yes it is the best way if you have a team of world beaters but most teams don't and still try it.
Imo this is why we're seeing such piss poor defending and more arse whoopings but anyhoo..... wtf was I talking about lol???