Player Paulo Dybala

[Ron Burgundy]

On reflection I am struggling with this one.

He is an electrifying player on his day but can he lead the line? Aguero comes to mind. Similar build, stocky, low center of gravity but not blessed with electrifying pace. Like Aguero he picks his runs and times them perfectly and that is his outstanding goal poaching skill. Dybala is also a strong dribbler but plays a lot deeper then Augero often picking up the ball and driving the attack from AMF. I've seen him turn out some electrifying cameos playing off a CF but Poch doesn't play that formation.

He is also really strong at crossing but he hasn't been used that much by Juve as an out and out winger, more a wing forward, until last season. I'd fancy him on the wing but again he lacks pace even though his crossing is high quality.

But really it does not surprise me why Sarri isn't that interested when he has others - Ronaldo, Mandzukic, Higuaín, Kean and then Caudrado, Costa and Bernardeschi who are WF's. Sari ball is effectively two speedy wingers and a lethal finisher at the apex of the 4-3-3. How does Dybala fit in there? I can see why they are open to selling Kean, who for all his promise looks very undisciplined at times and Dybala is the next one in the queue because he is good at nearly everything but hasn't got the physical presence and height or perhaps Augero's aggression in the last third to stand out as something special in that crowd. Plus Sarri will struggle to accommodate him in MF. Even in the twilight of their careers Ronaldo, Higuaín and Mandzukic are still formidable forwards.

Where would he slot in with us? He is not a real CF. He can play off a CF, as a WF or a false 9. He is really a No. 10. But is that what Poch wants him for? And how would you fit him into the diamond? A number 10 is the second striker and the false 9 is a mixture of both the 10 and 9 and, if we ever played one, really an advanced AM but there is a crowded field with CE, Son, Dele and Lamela all capable of playing there plus GLC and even Kane if it came to it. It all seems too hard.

He played 40 games last season with 12 subs appearances and had 8 GS and 5 Assists in that lot. He has 0.5 tackles and 89% passing rate with 1.5 key passes per game. Yes he was stuck on the wing but those numbers still show quality from one of his poorest seasons in Italy. A class act for sure but how do you fit him in plus he is 26 in November? Hardly a young up and comer and sell on value is an issue.

You’d really have to say someone like GLC offers us more flexibility and may possibly have a higher ceiling.

Maybe it will come down to dollars and pounds. If we can grab him for a bargain price. Why not? Otherwise he seems more like a luxury player requiring a formation built around him to play to his strengths rather then the other way around.

I would have thought Man City would be very interested with Augero reaching his peak years and Dybala the closest to him in style.

It’s a good post this. My main concern for the season ahead is that we’ll try and fit a load of really good square pegs in round holes.

I don’t like the diamond. I don’t think our players really work well with it. We seem to be keen to play a CB at RB, an incoming AM at LB, an ideal lone striker as part of a pair, an ideal three man CM with an extra wheel...I could go on.

Not sure exactly what sort of player this guys is

 

[JayB]

This is on the money imo but there’s a possibility of option 3 where we look at other players in the squad who might be expendable. This option would make sense both from squad numbers and financial perspective but might require time to generate perspective buyers.

Big question is who those players might be. Lucas would probably be the most likely, I'm sure a number of PL clubs would be willing to snap him up for a sizable fee. It'd be incredibly harsh after his exploits in Amsterdam, though.

Earlier in the window some were suggesting we should cash in on Sissoko but I couldn't possibly see that given how central he has been in helping Ndombele to integrate. Like Lucas it'd be incredibly harsh.

Could see Lamela being made available as well but I don't know if there'd be any takers, or whether he could even pass a medical. Dier could also generate funds, but he's an important utility player.

Unless we could sell a couple of the second choice players on big fees we'd be looking at an eye-watering, likely unfeasible net spend. That's a lot of work to be done in very little time.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

@Flashspur

He can play AM/ST which is more than good enough for me.
He can also play the RW similar to what Eriksen has done for us, more like a playmaker.

 

[WiganSpur]

Big question is who those players might be. Lucas would probably be the most likely, I'm sure a number of PL clubs would be willing to snap him up for a sizable fee. It'd be incredibly harsh after his exploits in Amsterdam, though.

Earlier in the window some were suggesting we should cash in on Sissoko but I couldn't possibly see that given how central he has been in helping Ndombele to integrate. Like Lucas it'd be incredibly harsh.

Could see Lamela being made available as well but I don't know if there'd be any takers, or whether he could even pass a medical. Dier could also generate funds, but he's an important utility player.

Unless we could sell a couple of the second choice players on big fees we'd be looking at an eye-watering, likely unfeasible net spend. That's a lot of work to be done in very little time.

I wouldn’t be keen on the idea of Lucas leaving myself. I love Lamela but it would make sense for him to make way considering the positions Dybala takes up. It may also change our position on Toby considering he’s in his last year. We might now try to shift him with the idea of Dier dropping back or even try to move Dier on for a big fee.

 

[daryl hannah]

Watching Eriksen's cameo yesterday he looks as though he's back on form - It'd be sad if he was the one to make way with his metronomic qualities when on song.

Dele is the poorest footballer out the bunch for me but he's home grown and doesn't want to go anywhere.

Lamela would be the ideal candidate to make way as Lucas is just too important right now - looks like one of the ones capable of making something happen.

 

[Martin91]

I know that we ignore a lot of what he says but as he was first to mention Dybala to us quoting another source

 

[Scott Spur]

On reflection I am struggling with this one.

He is an electrifying player on his day but can he lead the line? Aguero comes to mind. Similar build, stocky, low center of gravity but not blessed with electrifying pace. Like Aguero he picks his runs and times them perfectly and that is his outstanding goal poaching skill. Dybala is also a strong dribbler but plays a lot deeper then Augero often picking up the ball and driving the attack from AMF. I've seen him turn out some electrifying cameos playing off a CF but Poch doesn't play that formation.

He is also really strong at crossing but he hasn't been used that much by Juve as an out and out winger, more a wing forward, until last season. I'd fancy him on the wing but again he lacks pace even though his crossing is high quality.

But really it does not surprise me why Sarri isn't that interested when he has others - Ronaldo, Mandzukic, Higuaín, Kean and then Caudrado, Costa and Bernardeschi who are WF's. Sari ball is effectively two speedy wingers and a lethal finisher at the apex of the 4-3-3. How does Dybala fit in there? I can see why they are open to selling Kean, who for all his promise looks very undisciplined at times and Dybala is the next one in the queue because he is good at nearly everything but hasn't got the physical presence and height or perhaps Augero's aggression in the last third to stand out as something special in that crowd. Plus Sarri will struggle to accommodate him in MF. Even in the twilight of their careers Ronaldo, Higuaín and Mandzukic are still formidable forwards.

Where would he slot in with us? He is not a real CF. He can play off a CF, as a WF or a false 9. He is really a No. 10. But is that what Poch wants him for? And how would you fit him into the diamond? A number 10 is the second striker and the false 9 is a mixture of both the 10 and 9 and, if we ever played one, really an advanced AM but there is a crowded field with CE, Son, Dele and Lamela all capable of playing there plus GLC and even Kane if it came to it. It all seems too hard.

He played 40 games last season with 12 subs appearances and had 8 GS and 5 Assists in that lot. He has 0.5 tackles and 89% passing rate with 1.5 key passes per game. Yes he was stuck on the wing but those numbers still show quality from one of his poorest seasons in Italy. A class act for sure but how do you fit him in plus he is 26 in November? Hardly a young up and comer and sell on value is an issue.

You’d really have to say someone like GLC offers us more flexibility and may possibly have a higher ceiling.

Maybe it will come down to dollars and pounds. If we can grab him for a bargain price. Why not? Otherwise he seems more like a luxury player requiring a formation built around him to play to his strengths rather then the other way around.

I would have thought Man City would be very interested with Augero reaching his peak years and Dybala the closest to him in style.

Sod all that, can he take a corner?

 

[ShaunL84]

That's an opening bid. It is meant to be low.

 

[nattydredd]

Juve [allegedly] after Lukaku...and Man Utd [allegedly] after Dybala. If those facts are true..well.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[daryl hannah]

Juve [allegedly] after Lukaku...and Man Utd [allegedly] after Dybala. If those facts are true..well.

Just my 2 cents.

Where's the 'bugger' emoji?

 

[Deleted member 27995]

That story (United & Dybala) has been in the press since Monday evening Tuesday morning and moved forward since then. Considering our name was also linked in one or two of those reports before the AG/DK and Daily Mail piece not sure why people would become concerned.

 

[L-man]

Yeah but closer to 26.....

He’s 25 until he’s 26

 

[nailsy]

I don't believe this scenario, but nevertheless I don't think it would even be worth it. In Dele we have a HG talent with ridiculous stats for his age and in Sonny we have a marketing star and one of the best in the league. Not worth it for Dybala, despite the incredible hype in here.

We need to improve not replace. Signed instead of GLC with Lamela/Lucas possibly in trouble sounds most likely to me. Even though its all very unlikely.

I can't see us selling Dele or Son either. Like you say Lucas or Lamela seem more likely, but I wouldn't rule out Sissoko going. He's 30 next month and it could be a good time to cash in on him while his stock is high after a fantastic season if Poch thinks he might be more of a rotation option next season.

 

[Martin91]

That's an opening bid. It is meant to be low.

I did reply back saying that’s called a starting bid and then both clubs enter negotiations to find a deal suitable for both

 

[bloodzeed]

He's 26 this year, not exactly young.

So 26 is old now?

 

[tiger666]

So 26 is old now?

No and I didn't say it was. Fucking hell I'm starting to remember why I avoided this place for a year.

 

[dannythomas]

It’s a good post this. My main concern for the season ahead is that we’ll try and fit a load of really good square pegs in round holes.

I don’t like the diamond. I don’t think our players really work well with it. We seem to be keen to play a CB at RB, an incoming AM at LB, an ideal lone striker as part of a pair, an ideal three man CM with an extra wheel...I could go on.

Not sure exactly what sort of player this guys is

Bearing in mind that if Sessegnon signs we could play 2 wing backs in a 3-5-2
Lloris
Sanchez Alderweireld Vertonghen
KWP Eriksen ( or GLC ) Winks Ndombele Sessegnon
Kane and either Son or Dybala

Gazza Foyth Sissoko Davies Dele Lucas Son or Dybala

In a 4-2-3-1
Lloris
Aurier or Foyth, Alderweireld,Vertonghen, Davies
Winks Ndombele
Dybala Eriksen ( or GLC ) Son
Kane

Gazza , Aurier or Foyth, Sanchez, Sessegnon, Dele, Sissoko, Lucas

I can’t see us signing both Dybala and GLC unless Eriksen goes. If we have 2 of those 3 I can see Dele not starting.

How strong would our bench look compared to last season ? Lamela and Skipp not even on it.

 

[wirE]

Finally, a player worthy of the Number 9 shirt. Come on Mr. Levy

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I can’t see us signing both Dybala and GLC unless Eriksen goes.

I think that's very clear

If we have 2 of those 3 I can see Dele not starting.

Definitely. He (with management's help) needs to really consider what type of player he is, and also how hard he wants to work on his game. He needs a very big season

How strong would our bench look compared to last season ? Lamela and Skipp not even on it.

Yup

 

[Deleted member 29446]

50€ m. haha. I see Levy is back to his best.

@Scutch Already mentioned a few pages back.