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idontgetit

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Loan all youth to prem teams. Keep everyone else. Simples. Can prem loans be recalled in Jan? Because that would be an ideal set-up.
 

E17yid

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Sell Livermore and Sig. Loan bentaleb and Carroll.

Sandro paulinho holtby

Capoue dembele eriksen

EDIT: actually, I'd quite like to keep sig. Did well this season, all things considered.
 
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mil1lion

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For me we should be looking at a 4-3-3 formation with the following options

Ball winners - Sandro, Capoue
Box to box - Dembele, Paulinho
Playmaker - Eriksen, Holtby, Carrol

I would loan out Bentaleb and sell both Sig and Chadli

I don't believe in a best team as I think you have to have the right team for the opposition in front of you. We need to have the right options. There are games where we can play with one of each of those 3 (ball winner, box to box, playmaker). There are other games where we can drop the ball winner and dominate possession with an extra playmaker. While there are games where 2 powerful box to box midfielders could work best.

The main focus this transfer window will be in the wide positions. We need more goals from the wide players in a 4-3-3. Neither Lennon or Townsend score nearly enough goals. I think Lamela is capable technically if we can manage him well. We therefore need at least one new wide attacker who is comfortable on either wing.
 

kitchen

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For me we should be looking at a 4-3-3 formation with the following options

Ball winners - Sandro, Capoue
Box to box - Dembele, Paulinho
Playmaker - Eriksen, Holtby, Carrol

I would loan out Bentaleb and sell both Sig and Chadli

I don't believe in a best team as I think you have to have the right team for the opposition in front of you. We need to have the right options. There are games where we can play with one of each of those 3 (ball winner, box to box, playmaker). There are other games where we can drop the ball winner and dominate possession with an extra playmaker. While there are games where 2 powerful box to box midfielders could work best.

The main focus this transfer window will be in the wide positions. We need more goals from the wide players in a 4-3-3. Neither Lennon or Townsend score nearly enough goals. I think Lamela is capable technically if we can manage him well. We therefore need at least one new wide attacker who is comfortable on either wing.

So you'd sell Chadli having stated that we only have one good wide player, which means that with a few injuries in those positions, which is fairly common, we're well and truly fucked.

One good wide player might be good enough for a first 11, but squad football doesn't really work like that...
 

mil1lion

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So you'd sell Chadli having stated that we only have one good wide player, which means that with a few injuries in those positions, which is fairly common, we're well and truly fucked.

One good wide player might be good enough for a first 11, but squad football doesn't really work like that...
No I would keep Lennon and Townsend in the squad. I don't think Chadli suits the wide position and we're already crowded out centrally.

Lamela, new wide attacker, Lennon and Townsend would give us enough width while Eriksen can also cover left wing if really needed.
 

TheSecretNonFootballer

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No I would keep Lennon and Townsend in the squad. I don't think Chadli suits the wide position and we're already crowded out centrally.

Lamela, new wide attacker, Lennon and Townsend would give us enough width while Eriksen can also cover left wing if really needed.

Chadli generally plays as a wide attacker on the left (although admittedly not much for us)
 

kitchen

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No I would keep Lennon and Townsend in the squad. I don't think Chadli suits the wide position and we're already crowded out centrally.

Lamela, new wide attacker, Lennon and Townsend would give us enough width while Eriksen can also cover left wing if really needed.

Fair enough. I just think that we've yet to see the best of Chadli, and also he'll comfortably score more across a season than Lennon and Townsend. Although putting him up top does leave us short of pace.
 

Oshi

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Don't know if he is good enough, only one way to find out though eh? :)

I saw one or two games where he played further forward for QPR than normal and he was pretty tidy with the one touch passes and flicks.

I think his QPR tenure could be described as 'decent'.
 

Geyzer Soze

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Don't know if he is good enough, only one way to find out though eh? :)

I saw one or two games where he played further forward for QPR than normal and he was pretty tidy with the one touch passes and flicks.

I think his QPR tenure could be described as 'decent'.
He stood up ok physically? Such a different league. Wish we could have got him a PL loan
 

Geyzer Soze

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Fair enough. I just think that we've yet to see the best of Chadli, and also he'll comfortably score more across a season than Lennon and Townsend. Although putting him up top does leave us short of pace.
He's capable of scoring more in a single game than Lennon & Townsend are in a season!
 

GetSpurredOn

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DM - Sandro, Capoue, (Velkovic)
CM - Paulinho, Dembele, (Bentaleb)
AM - Eriksen, Holtby, (Carroll)
RF - Lamela
LF - Chadli

Eriksen and Holtby can operate in the advanced roles. I think Townsend is worth persisting with, Lennon, I have to ask, does he fit?
What does the future hold for Falque, Pritchard and Ceballos?
 

WiganSpur

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First of all play a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation.

DM's- Sandro and Capoue
CM's- Paulinho, Dembele, Carroll, Nabil, Holtby
AM's- Eriksen, Holtby

Sell: Livermore, Sigurdsson
Loan: Veljkovic

Yes, with Nabil and Carroll we have too many midfielders but they offer alternative options with their passing ability from deep. We might possibly have to loan one of them out, though. If I had to keep one i'd keep Carroll, he's 22 soon and he's ready for the step up. Sandro, Capoue, Paulinho, Dembele and Holtby should be our 'senior' midfielders with Eriksen slightly more advanced. With a Europa Cup campaign we're going to need them all.
 

mil1lion

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Chadli generally plays as a wide attacker on the left (although admittedly not much for us)
Fair enough. I just think that we've yet to see the best of Chadli, and also he'll comfortably score more across a season than Lennon and Townsend. Although putting him up top does leave us short of pace.
I'm not convinced he is right for us. He's a decent player but he reminds me a bit of Kranjcar. He's technically very good, has the odd goal in him but I think we work best with pace and width. He would look better in a team that is not as direct as us.

We look most dangerous when we stretch the opposition and I don't think it works to have 2 infield wingers who always want to come inside. I think we always need at least one winger to stretch the midfield otherwise it gets too crowded. If we could pass the ball well enough at close quarters it would work but we're certainly no Barcelona.
 

mil1lion

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He's capable of scoring more in a single game than Lennon & Townsend are in a season!
Is he? Well we haven't seen it yet so not quiet sure how you can come to that conclusion.
 

TheSecretNonFootballer

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I'm not convinced he is right for us. He's a decent player but he reminds me a bit of Kranjcar. He's technically very good, has the odd goal in him but I think we work best with pace and width. He would look better in a team that is not as direct as us.

We look most dangerous when we stretch the opposition and I don't think it works to have 2 infield wingers who always want to come inside. I think we always need at least one winger to stretch the midfield otherwise it gets too crowded. If we could pass the ball well enough at close quarters it would work but we're certainly no Barcelona.

I think he has more in his locker than we've seen. Certainly his highlights from Twente and his Europa games for us suggest he can be a wide forward and a winger. His delivery with either foot is better than Lennon or Townsend and he was much more direct when it came to running at full backs at Twente so he's capable. 12 goals and 5 assists in 26 games the season before we signed him.
 

stov

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DM - Sandro, Capoue, (Velkovic)
CM - Paulinho, Dembele, (Bentaleb)
AM - Eriksen, Holtby, (Carroll)
RF - Lamela
LF - Chadli

Eriksen and Holtby can operate in the advanced roles. I think Townsend is worth persisting with, Lennon, I have to ask, does he fit?
What does the future hold for Falque, Pritchard and Ceballos?
This. Would see poch playing eriksen wide like lalana though
 

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Id like to see dembele replaced by a good quality passing CM. We have too many similar CMs, one has to go

Loan
velks
carroll or bentaleb

Sell
livermore (or capoue if he wants to go)
siggy

leaves us with
sandro
capoue
paulinho
new CM
eriksen
holtby
bentaleb/carroll
 

Strikeb4ck

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DM - Sandro (Capoue) ((Veljkovic))
B2B - Paulinho (Dembélé) ((Bentaleb))
AM - Eriksen (Holtby) ((Carroll))

Sell Sigurdsson and Livermore.

Play Chadli on the left of the front 3.
Agree with this although I'm not sure Sandro should start ahead of Capoue.
 

Strikeb4ck

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DM: Capoue, Sandro [Dembele, Paulinho, Veljkovic]
CM: Paulinho, Dembele, Holtby [Carroll, Eriksen]
AM: Eriksen, Holtby, Carroll [Chadli, Paulinho]
LW: New LW, Chadli, Townsend
RW: Lamela, Townsend

One useful thing with our CMs is that they are very versatile and can cover one another pretty effectively. A midfield contingent of Capoue, Sandro, Dembele, Paulinho, Holtby, Eriksen, and Carroll is good enough for our 4 competition setup, and Veljkovic and Chadli can both operate in midfield if necessary.

Loan out Bentaleb, give him a full year in the Prem.

Sell Livermore and Sigurdsson. Not that they are bad or anything, just surplus to requirements. Sell Lennon as he is past it.

Buy a first choice LW. Townsend and Chadli are great competition on either wing, and Oduwa will be threatening to make his breakthrough shortly as well.
 
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