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widmerpool

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And, of course, the publicity value of our players has declined rather. The assassination of a Bale or Modric would have dominated the news media for weeks. But since those dangerous days, a cunning transfer policy - aimed at making such an attack far less likely - has thankfully reduced our players' worth as strategic targets.
 

JerryGarcia

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May 18, 2006
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Of course a bomb would cause more damage but in this celebrity culture the stabbing of a footballer during a match would probably get almost as much attention and would be cheaper/easier to pull off. I'm not saying I think it will happen but stunts like this do not help anyone.
 
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worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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Seriously there is an important issue here, players are told not to get involved which means these morons can run around to their hearts content when one kick could bring them down at the start.
You may think it wrong for the player to bring him down but what if this interloper was aiming to harm one of the players? The rules and advice to the players as they stand are effectively let him stab you to death and don't get involved, I think players should be able to deal with the morons if they want to on the grounds of self defence with no repurcussions.
As for these three I think, in this season of goodwill, we should forgive them and accept it in the jovial manner it was intended, to show we forgive them the club should give them each a ticket in the park lane for the Arsenal home game, they could even wear their bassbud shirts so that we all know who they are, wouldn't that be nice.
 

$hoguN

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If they brought back the use of the whip as punishment and this sort of stupidity got you 5 lashes it would stop it all in an instant.


Just saying'… ;)
 

Mustard

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I'm not sure that I'd want you involved if I was ever going to start a terrorist cell.

For one thing, it seems to be relatively easy for the television editors to avoid unwelcome activity on the pitch; they ignored the first pitch invader for quite a while. It's obvious that professionally filmed footage of the atrocity you suggest wouldn't make it into the public domain. So any exposure would have to come from amateurs filming on their mobiles from the stands.

For another, a beheading would take a fair bit of time. Other players, even if they weren't able to save the victim's life, would be intervening before one had even sawed one's way through to the windpipe. Even the poor wheezing stewards would have made it to the scene before the head could be brandished triumphantly aloft.

And anyway, if one was minded to cause an atrocity at a football match (and it is slighty unnerving that we are a proudly philosemitic club not too far from London's Islamist clusters), there would be much more mileage in taking out supporters than players. Spectators are tightly clustered together and would run in panic if there was an explosion; a cabal of madmen with bomb belts could cause far more carnage on the stands than on the pitch, where they'd be lucky to take out more than one player.

Actually I hope that there's much more and much cleverer screening against this than is visible when going through the turnstiles. You'd have thought there would be.


I'm not sure you quite understand to be honest.

For such an atrocity your thinking of would take too much planning. By the time they have got the necessary materials and a willing suicide bomber they would have been locked up months before.

A ceramic blade could easily be smuggled in and it doesn't need to be a beheading. A deep cut to the jugular and it would achieve the same result in about a minute. And if you think the players would intervene rather than run away then you have a higher opinion of their bravery than most I suspect.

Anyway. It's not a thought process I really want to go into too deeply, but believe me. There are nutters out there fantasising about doing just this because of what happened yesterday
 

walton

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My immediate reaction is the stewards are fucking shit, they are out of shape.
As for those 3 guys I think people are overreacting, yeah they shouldn't have done it, but for them to get a prison term for that would be complete bollocks, people escape prison terms for doing a lot worse than that.
Uefa of course will probably hammer us more than the clubs with supporters indulging in racist behaviour, which is fucking typical of them.

Three pages in and at last, a sense of perspective...these guys were/are idiots, but let's get real, they're not sinister criminals. A few people have actually mentioned tasering, which is actually pretty disturbing. I can't imagine there'd be as much bed-wetting if this was another club, so let's dry our eyes a little.
 

Flynn

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If they brought back the use of the whip as punishment and this sort of stupidity got you 5 lashes it would stop it all in an instant.


Just saying'… ;)

A suitable punishment is to embarrasses them. Their stated aim is to cause distress to the public because they're just soooo cool.

Most punishments will just add to their "cred"

Only thing I can think off is we bring their absentee* fathers to the centre circle at half time and they they thrash their bare arses in front of 36,000 fans.

* an assumption maybe but you got to figure the cry for attention comes from somewhere.
 

teok

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They shouldn't face a prison term but they should be banned for life from all football grounds.
 

chrissivad

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They shouldn't face a prison term but they should be banned for life from all football grounds.

could push it to sports events if they are going to cause trouble.

Would guess it will only be a ban from our ground
 

ComfortablyNumb

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could push it to sports events if they are going to cause trouble.

Would guess it will only be a ban from our ground

I would think that a football club is like any other business - club, pub, supermarket, whatever. If they don't want a particular customer, they are within their rights to bar them. If they want someone to leave, they have an absolute right to eject them. Whether these three are Arsenal fans or not, Arsenal would be within their rights to bar them from their ground.

Indeed, look at it from Arsenal's point of view. If they don't ban them, then it's only a matter of time before some Spurs "fans" do the same to them.

That said, lifetime bans seem a bit extreme.
 

Mustard

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Three pages in and at last, a sense of perspective...these guys were/are idiots, but let's get real, they're not sinister criminals. A few people have actually mentioned tasering, which is actually pretty disturbing. I can't imagine there'd be as much bed-wetting if this was another club, so let's dry our eyes a little.


The wider implications and the planned aspect of it demands jail time to stop others.

I've been arrested for running on the pitch at Lords, my defence is I was fucking battered on free Wolfblass wine and it was a different time.

Factor in the fact they are scum and they are lucky not to be hanged.
 

eddiebailey

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Serious suggestion.

You don't need faster stewards or increased security. You need one dog handler with a well trained Alsatian. End of problem.

Training German Shepherds to distinguish between pitch invaders and footballers could be tricky. I do not want to see half the squad on physio room suffering from canine inflicted bite wounds, and Lord knows what UEFA would do to us if the mutt took out the ref...
 
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GilzeansGrandad

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If you look at the FB profile for the muppet who was the third 'invader' he would appear to be a Spurs fan. Unbelievable!
 

Syn_13

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I would think that a football club is like any other business - club, pub, supermarket, whatever. If they don't want a particular customer, they are within their rights to bar them. If they want someone to leave, they have an absolute right to eject them. Whether these three are Arsenal fans or not, Arsenal would be within their rights to bar them from their ground.

Indeed, look at it from Arsenal's point of view. If they don't ban them, then it's only a matter of time before some Spurs "fans" do the same to them.

That said, lifetime bans seem a bit extreme.

It may sound extreme but that's the idea of deterrent. People would think twice if they knew they were going to get banned for life.
 

sim0n

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Jan 29, 2005
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If they brought back the use of the whip as punishment and this sort of stupidity got you 5 lashes it would stop it all in an instant.


Just saying'… ;)

wow, welcome to Singapore.....

BTW - are these fools still in police custody?.... I hope so...
 

widmerpool

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If you look at the FB profile for the muppet who was the third 'invader' he would appear to be a Spurs fan. Unbelievable!

I was equally surprised that he was a Julian Barnes and Puccini fan, but I had misread your sig as being a link to the miscreant's profile.
 

penfold_99

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These jokers have set a precedent and as such the establishments (club, FA, uefa, police etc) will make an example of them.

I can see the possible outcomes of life time bans from all stadiums in Europe, 30 days in prison (serving only 14 days) and a massive civil fine.

Budbass will go after them for loss of earnings as if any of the above happens most clubs will end any relationship they had with them.


If nothing happens companies will see it as a valid marketing strategy and we will have it happening every other week.
 
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